Fighting with your brother

[martin_p]

I once had a bit of a scrap with my brother over Subbuteo. There was definitely some pushing/name calling and the odd punch to the arm may have been thrown. Do you think there’s a book in it?

[RVclaret]

Are you an author? If so there could be. If not, I doubt a book about you would sell a single copy (unless you’re actually famous and just post on here for the craic).

[Bordeauxclaret]

I once had a bit of a scrap with my brother over Subbuteo. There was definitely some pushing/name calling and the odd punch to the arm may have been thrown. Do you think there’s a book in it?

I think one of the major newspapers might run a headline on it asking people to be spared the detail.
While simultaneously advertising a 17 page special on it.

[AGENT_CLARET]

In one of my many fights with my brother I once dragged him out of his bedroom along the floor after a scrap and threw him down the stairs, he ended up with stitches under his chin, I think this could be a film never mind a book

[TheFamilyCat]

If you have also married a tabloid hate figure/pantomime villain then there might be something in it. Was any jewellery broken in the fisticuffs?

[martin_p]

If you have also married a tabloid hate figure/pantomime villain then there might be something in it. Was any jewellery broken in the fisticuffs?

Couldn’t afford jewellery, maybe that adds to the story?

[MancunianClaret]

My mates brother, after much tormenting, snapped and chased us both round the house with a rolling pin. Cracked me right on the shin with it. I've let Oprah know but no reply yet.

[Corky]

I haven’t got a brother but as a wee nipper on Xmas day I had, amongst other things, been given a rubber tomahawk. I promptly walked into my older sisters bedroom and whacked her around the head with it. She wasn’t happy but thus far I don’t think she’s written a book about it

[Woonderbah]

I once had a bit of a scrap with my brother over Subbuteo. There was definitely some pushing/name calling and the odd punch to the arm may have been thrown. Do you think there’s a book in it?

Yeah but did you end up with a dog's bowl up your jacksy ?

[Inchy]

Had some right battles on towneley astro turf over the years with my brother

[Dark Cloud]

Plenty of proper scraps with my big (2 years older) brother back when we were kids and teenagers and we even sent the TV sprawling on one occasion. He's 66 now and I'm thinking of having sneaky pop at him as he's not in the best of health. I just need to choose my moment and creep up on the b***ard and POW! Revenge is a dish best served cold and by someone who deep inside knows how to carry and hide a grudge for over 50 years!

[fatboy47]

Can I join in?

Never had a brother, but I did ram a hot Hollands meat pie into my sisters mush when I returned from the chippy. She told me she'd asked for meat 'n potato. Had my arse tanned..no trial, no judge, no jury.


Book's coming out in the Spring.

Fear and Loathing in Whitewellbottom.

[Marney&Mee]

I once had a bit of a scrap with my brother over Subbuteo. There was definitely some pushing/name calling and the odd punch to the arm may have been thrown. Do you think there’s a book in it?

There’s a band name in it…

[IanMcL]

Couldn’t afford jewellery, maybe that adds to the story?

It might if you like gruel or perhaps cake.

[martin_p]

Incredible that falling out and fighting with your brother is such a normal thing, thought it was just me and royalty!

[BennyD]

No, mate, it isn’t. I hated my mothers eldest son (I won’t grace him with the B word) whilst growing up and, for reasons beyond the scope of this thread, ‘disowned’ him 11 years ago. It turned out I was right all along about him being a ****.

[arise_sir_charge]

Me and my brother were once boxing using batting gloves from cricket as our boxing gloves and my brother promptly dispatched me through the bay window of our house.

Luckily I was relatively unscathed but with our mum due to return from work 20 mins later we had to concoct a story.

We went with a passing Wizard bus having popped up a stone that smashed the window as we watched tv.

Our bay window was about 50 yards from the roadside, raised up about 15 foot so it was physically impossible but we were desperate!

Needless to say she didn’t believe us.

[Stalbansclaret]

If only I'd thought to call my therapist after any one of my (approx) 347 scraps with my brother when we were young. The time when we threw snooker balls across the room at each other would have made a particularly gripping Netflix dramatisation I feel.

[bobinho]

If you have also married a tabloid hate figure/pantomime villain then there might be something in it. Was any jewellery broken in the fisticuffs?

Likewise if you marry an absolute sponge, who has the sole intention of doing as much as she can to fuel your own inadequacies and feelings of resentment at not being the first born.

[Bosscat]

There is a famous saying ... "You can choose your friends but you cannot choose your family"

We are lucky in our family to have great relationships between us ... 4 Brothers (sadly lost 2 now) and 2 sisters ... I am the youngest of the 6 of us.
I have friends who haven't spoken to relations for years due to fallings out. From Parent - children falling out to Brothers/Sisters etc over varying things (usually money / Inheritances etc)

[bfcjg]

If my older brother that pushed me into the dog bowl and broke my necklace , I would get revenge in the form of an autobiography such as the Accy Road H Samuel hater.

[Rileybobs]

The main difference between all of these charming stories and the altercation being referenced is that one was between two adult brothers in their late thirties. Judging by all the publicity, including on here, I would say that Harry's book is going down a storm - but it seems the press and public (including you lot) are the ones making a big issue of this story rather than the author.

[daveisaclaret]

Can't believe people on here fight with their brothers. My brother popped round today to call my wife a selfish, difficult slapper and I shook his hand and told him he was spot on.

[Stalbansclaret]

The main difference between all of these charming stories and the altercation being referenced is that one was between two adult brothers in their late thirties. Judging by all the publicity, including on here, I would say that Harry's book is going down a storm - but it seems the press and public (including you lot) are the ones making a big issue of this story rather than the author.

Not sure I understand what you are saying ...he's the one whose written the book.and done the TV interviews. People on here are simply commenting on the content in a usually light-hearted manner. I think he's the one making the "big issue".

[Rileybobs]

Not sure I understand what you are saying ...he's the one whose written the book.and done the TV interviews. People on here are simply commenting on the content in a usually light-hearted manner. I think he's the one making the "big issue".

My point is twofold;
1.) The comparisons with people fighting with their siblings when they were kids is completely moot.
2.) From what I gather Harry hasn't made a huge issue out of the story, he has just recounted the incident in his book. The media has made this into a big issue, and the public, including people on here, are lapping it up.

Who cares whether he had a fight with his brother? And who cares whether he wrote about it in his autobiography?

[AfloatinClaret]

... time when we threw snooker balls across the room at each other...

One of my brothers has a capped front tooth courtesy of a thrown snooker ball; I didn't throw it, but I must admit responsibility for the scar on his chin; I don't think it was the air-gun pellet itself, so much as the cack-handed way in which we subsequently dug it out with a dirty penknife.

This thread makes me recall my mother's take on things: "With three lads there was always going to be two of them beating up the third, so i just kepr watch on who was getting bullied; provided that alternated between them, I just left them to get on with it." To be fair it seems to have worked, we all get on great now and even as kids, whilst we beat the crap out of each other at times, nobody else was allowed to; have a pop at one and you were taking on us all.

[martin_p]

My point is twofold;
1.) The comparisons with people fighting with their siblings when they were kids is completely moot.
2.) From what I gather Harry hasn't made a huge issue out of the story, he has just recounted the incident in his book. The media has made this into a big issue, and the public, including people on here, are lapping it up.

Who cares whether he had a fight with his brother? And who cares whether he wrote about it in his autobiography?

Have to say I only have a minor interest in the story and that’s because it annoys me that it’s dominating the news when there’s more important stuff going on in the world, but isn’t the story presented as ‘this is just another incident proving how badly I’ve been treated’ when really spats/jealousy between brothers (old and young) are pretty much the norm.

[Claret Toni]

If you have also married a tabloid hate figure/pantomime villain then there might be something in it.

Actress?

[LeadBelly]

I dont have a brother but my 2 years older sister and I used to fight quite a bit with her winning the early bouts and then me winning until we were old enough to get over it/ me getting to a point where hitting girls was a no-no.

She pushed me down once and I slashed my wrist on a sharp object- almost severed the artery but bad enough anyway and needed a dash to the hospital for many stitches. Also pushed my head through a window another time- thankfully the glass didnt cut me and I extricated my head without damage. To balance that- I knocked one of her milk-teeth out once; I never broke her necklace or a dog bowl though.

Of course, in later years we've often had a great laugh about all this - no grudges at all.

[Bigbopper]

If my older brother that pushed me into the dog bowl and broke my necklace , I would get revenge in the form of an autobiography such as the Accy Road H Samuel hater.

I can not remember H Samuel having a shop on Accrington Rd.

[Rileybobs]

Have to say I only have a minor interest in the story and that’s because it annoys me that it’s dominating the news when there’s more important stuff going on in the world, but isn’t the story presented as ‘this is just another incident proving how badly I’ve been treated’ when really spats/jealousy between brothers (old and young) are pretty much the norm.

Agree with how it’s dominating the news, but it seems the media are making a bigger deal out of this than Harry has himself. I understand where you’re coming from about siblings fighting, I’ve got two younger brothers and we always used to scrap when we were kids. But I’m a similar age to Harry and William and if one of my brother’s manhandled me to the ground now it would certainly not be something I’d take lightly and would be able to sweep under the carpet.

Do I think that writing a book to air all of his grievances is the right way to go about things? No. But I guess it’s the only platform he really has to tell his side of the story, and he clearly wants to put that across after spending nearly 40 years being told what he can say and do.

For some reason he seems to have rankled the majority of the public, and I can only assume it’s because they either don’t like his wife, or they don’t like to see the monarchy being held to account.

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[tiger76]

The writers of The Crown will be having a sly grin to themselves over this whole sordid affair. And to think they were accused of making up stories regarding the royal household.

It seems truth is stranger than fiction, although naturally that depends on whose version of events you wish to believe.

[Rileybobs]

The Bob Mortimer meme above demonstrates how blinkered people have become by the whole saga. I've seen other references to him wearing a necklace and how that's not blokey etc. But to my knowledge Harry hasn't claimed to be upset by his necklace being broken, it's just a detail in his account. Similarly I'm sure he was able to replace the dog-bowl, but I guess having a dog bowl isn't a test of one's masculinity. Similar to comparisons to having fights with your siblings when kids, they're just irrelevant cheap shots which make your point of view seem extremely blinkered and agenda-driven.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Feuding feudals

[Stockbrokerbelt]

I used to torture my two younger brothers, then as we got older we all used to go in the pantry & once the lights were out we could let rip! We’re all grown up now & get on like a house on fire.

[arise_sir_charge]

Jesus wept Riley, lighten up!

Prince Harry is far from daft and he knew full well that a fight between himself and the future King of England over the behaviour of his wife would be box office stuff for the worlds media.

I find the whole episode very odd and quite a sad.

This might just be me but I had no idea Meghan was ‘black’ until she started telling everybody and claiming she was being treated differently because of her skin colour. The wedding etc all seemed in line with everything I’d seen from the royal family before and it never once crossed my mind she was in any way different.

However they feel they have been treated it does seem a twisted logic to supposedly step away from your official role citing the need for privacy etc only to then appear in pretty much every medium of media sticking it to the people you’ve walked away from. It’s was undoubtedly going to draw attention but equally it was also going to generate big money…..and there we have our motive.

It’s all about the money but I can’t help thinking that one way or another this is all going to end in tears.

[Bordeauxclaret]

When they stood down /stepped back from the Royal Family did they actually ever say it’s because they wanted privacy?

I see it mentioned a lot but I’ve no idea if it’s true.

[AlargeClaret]

My older step brother had borrowed my football boots (he 15 me 13) and only brought 1 back ! And told me to “ feck off moaning “ I then used his new Wrangler jacket ( part of a double denim set up) instead of newspaper in the Rabbit’s hutch . He was beyond livid! His mum literally saved me from his swinging belt . As only the gods of chaos ,and mercy ? can , my dad left her the very next day ! Never saw him again but I bet he’s still seething !
ps
No necklaces , insurgents, egos ,or bank balances were damaged in said altercation .

[dsr]

Agree with how it’s dominating the news, but it seems the media are making a bigger deal out of this than Harry has himself. I understand where you’re coming from about siblings fighting, I’ve got two younger brothers and we always used to scrap when we were kids. But I’m a similar age to Harry and William and if one of my brother’s manhandled me to the ground now it would certainly not be something I’d take lightly and would be able to sweep under the carpet.

Do I think that writing a book to air all of his grievances is the right way to go about things? No. But I guess it’s the only platform he really has to tell his side of the story, and he clearly wants to put that across after spending nearly 40 years being told what he can say and do.

For some reason he seems to have rankled the majority of the public, and I can only assume it’s because they either don’t like his wife, or they don’t like to see the monarchy being held to account.

What rankles is that he's clearly out to try and damage the royal family, and from what I've seen reported about the book so far he has nothing to damage them with. He can only damage himself.

His brother pushed him and he fell over.
His brother got the bigger bedroom.
His wife got very emotional and had a crying fit in the week before her wedding.
Kate and Meghan weren't bffs.
His father remarried when Harry was 21, and Harry didn't want him to.
He got fed up because the "royal firm" kept telling him what to do.
Except he also got fed up because they laughed at his Nazi fancy dress costume and didn't tell him not to do it.
The woman he thought of as his "wicked stepmother" wasn't buddy-buddy enough.

Where are the revelations that are supposed to rock the royal family? Where's the juicy stuff?

One thing I'm fairly sure of now - he is genuinely Charles' son. If he wasn't, the royal family could produce (or leak) the DNA test results, and all of a sudden he's no longer royal, no longer family, and is just an irrelevant byblow of his mother's affair.

[TheFamilyCat]

The Bob Mortimer meme above demonstrates how blinkered people have become by the whole saga. I've seen other references to him wearing a necklace and how that's not blokey etc. But to my knowledge Harry hasn't claimed to be upset by his necklace being broken, it's just a detail in his account. Similarly I'm sure he was able to replace the dog-bowl, but I guess having a dog bowl isn't a test of one's masculinity. Similar to comparisons to having fights with your siblings when kids, they're just irrelevant cheap shots which make your point of view seem extremely blinkered and agenda-driven.

Brilliant isn't it? All this media driven hatred of him and all it is doing is promoting the book for him.

[TheFamilyCat]

What rankles is that he's clearly out to try and damage the royal family, and from what I've seen reported about the book so far he has nothing to damage them with. He can only damage himself.

His brother pushed him and he fell over.
His brother got the bigger bedroom.
His wife got very emotional and had a crying fit in the week before her wedding.
Kate and Meghan weren't bffs.
His father remarried when Harry was 21, and Harry didn't want him to.
He got fed up because the "royal firm" kept telling him what to do.
Except he also got fed up because they laughed at his Nazi fancy dress costume and didn't tell him not to do it.
The woman he thought of as his "wicked stepmother" wasn't buddy-buddy enough.

Where are the revelations that are supposed to rock the royal family? Where's the juicy stuff?

One thing I'm fairly sure of now - he is genuinely Charles' son. If he wasn't, the royal family could produce (or leak) the DNA test results, and all of a sudden he's no longer royal, no longer family, and is just an irrelevant byblow of his mother's affair.

There is no juicy stuff. That's the point but "certain media outlets" would have folk believe he should be hung for treason. And "certain people" are lapping it up. And Harry will sell a load of books as a consequence.

[Bordeauxclaret]

It’s certainly a nice distraction to have for that family.

[jos]

In one of my many fights with my brother I once dragged him out of his bedroom along the floor after a scrap and threw him down the stairs, he ended up with stitches under his chin, I think this could be a film never mind a book

My elder brother (by three years) threw me down the stairs and then as I was recovering pushed me through a plate glass door, and I once managed to give him a black eye.
Yet we loved each other, sadly we lost him in 88 and I wish we could still go and watch the Clarets like we used to.

If I’d known there was a literary opportunity in our brotherly bouts I’d have taken more notes.

UTC

[arise_sir_charge]

Wonder why he doesn’t have the DNA test himself, now that would be box office but also equally make him even more of an irrelevance.

By the way it’s not ‘media driven hatred’ that is driving the reporting, until recently he was always portrayed as the loveable rogue prince. He was the one most folk felt they could relate to.

He has made a conscious choice to do all the media he is doing and to publish a book and in doing so he is showing him and his family up. However, at the same time, as planned the money will be piling in. He will be making far more than had he stayed a working royal. So he’s chosen the money over family and that’s up to him.

One thing he’s been terribly advised on is the Taliban claim. Idiotic to put that in print.

As I said above I think that it will all end in tears.

[Rileybobs]

What rankles is that he's clearly out to try and damage the royal family, and from what I've seen reported about the book so far he has nothing to damage them with. He can only damage himself.

His brother pushed him and he fell over.
His brother got the bigger bedroom.
His wife got very emotional and had a crying fit in the week before her wedding.
Kate and Meghan weren't bffs.
His father remarried when Harry was 21, and Harry didn't want him to.
He got fed up because the "royal firm" kept telling him what to do.
Except he also got fed up because they laughed at his Nazi fancy dress costume and didn't tell him not to do it.
The woman he thought of as his "wicked stepmother" wasn't buddy-buddy enough.

Where are the revelations that are supposed to rock the royal family? Where's the juicy stuff?

One thing I'm fairly sure of now - he is genuinely Charles' son. If he wasn't, the royal family could produce (or leak) the DNA test results, and all of a sudden he's no longer royal, no longer family, and is just an irrelevant byblow of his mother's affair.

If he’s got something to damage the royal family with then why shouldn’t he share it? If he doesn’t have anything to damage them with then what’s the problem?

I’m not sure Harry promised juicy stuff which would rock the royal family so maybe that’s why you’re disappointed.

And would the royal family be able to leak Harry’s DNA results? That sounds like quite a major breach of data protection. The fact you are certain they would leak the results possibly adds strength to the term “royal firm”.

[Damo]

My brother once got me in a Boston Crab after getting carried away watching some wrestling match on the TV.
I'd approach the press or write a book about it, but I really just want to be left alone to live my life in privacy

[bobinho]

My brother once got me in a Boston Crab after getting carried away watching some wrestling match on the TV.
I'd approach the press or write a book about it, but I really just want to be left alone to live my life in privacy

You can do both apparently….

[Damo]

The Bob Mortimer meme above demonstrates how blinkered people have become by the whole saga. I've seen other references to him wearing a necklace and how that's not blokey etc. But to my knowledge Harry hasn't claimed to be upset by his necklace being broken, it's just a detail in his account. Similarly I'm sure he was able to replace the dog-bowl, but I guess having a dog bowl isn't a test of one's masculinity. Similar to comparisons to having fights with your siblings when kids, they're just irrelevant cheap shots which make your point of view seem extremely blinkered and agenda-driven.

Mate, you appear to have been triggered by a silly meme about a member of the royal family.
Not sure it was the other poster who comes across as blinkered or agenda driven.
Remember, comedy is all about punching up

[Lancasterclaret]

Farage has for the Tower to be reopened for people like Prince Harry

My limited interest in this whole story was piqued for a bit by stuff like this, which does rather suggest a rather lot of the people I'd happily drop into the channel 20 miles out with only life jackets are panicking about this rather more than they should be

Is it worse than the next king being a Nazi? (pre WWII)

Doubt it