Match thread - Bournemouth v Burnley

[CrosspoolClarets]

Such a good performance. What a side we have here. Defence needs tightening in the longer term and in the shorter term the risk is losing THB with what could be a bad foot injury (hope he is OK after a scan). But for now we can enjoy where we are. We can knock anyone out of this apart from half a dozen or so teams.

[Tribesmen]

Well did well you have to say

[Matt_Whalley]

I’m going to sound ignorant here but this thread indicates a lot of people watching today. How? Dodgy streams all the way? Being shown abroad?

I’ve been stuck with Radio Lancs!

[jedi_master]

Twine getting no minutes again. You have to start to wonder....

Yeah, maybe he’s going to get loaned out. He seems a long way from Kompany’s thoughts currently, as far as we can see.

[KRBFC]

I’m going to sound ignorant here but this thread indicates a lot of people watching today. How? Dodgy streams all the way? Being shown abroad?

I’ve been stuck with Radio Lancs!

Nowt dodgy about the streams these days, just as good as TV. If English football isn't gonna figure out a way for fans to watch their club online, fans will use other methods which are available. 0.001% of fans attend every game live.

[RVclaret]

Yeah, maybe he’s going to get loaned out. He seems a long way from Kompany’s thoughts currently, as far as we can see.

Doubt that. Just being very cautious after such a long time out, I think. Waiting for the right game to throw him into, probably more likely to see him when we are a goal or 2 down and facing a low block.

[Tribesmen]

I’m going to sound ignorant here but this thread indicates a lot of people watching today. How? Dodgy streams all the way? Being shown abroad?

I’ve been stuck with Radio Lancs!

Sorry Matt a good few worked out here in Ireland but i did miss two goals , hey these things happen

[HiThere]

Doubt that. Just being very cautious after such a long time out, I think. Waiting for the right game to throw him into, probably more likely to see him when we are a goal or 2 down and facing a low block.

Probably in home games too.

[jedi_master]

Doubt that. Just being very cautious after such a long time out, I think. Waiting for the right game to throw him into, probably more likely to see him when we are a goal or 2 down and facing a low block.

I can’t see us being two goals down in the near future!

Yes he might get a chance against a low block side hanging on for a draw.

[Rileybobs]

Waiting for the right game to throw him into, probably more likely to see him when we are a goal or 2 down and facing a low block.

So not for another 7 months then…

[BennyD]

Sherwood singing our praises, for once.

[Walkerpool]

Sherwood singing our praises, for once.

He said 2 teams without much quality

[winsomeyen]

Sherwood singing our praises, for once.

**** Sherwood.

[BennyD]

Tbh, I don’t disagree.

[BennyD]

He said 2 teams without much quality

I missed that bit. I came in part way through his after match analysis.

[tiger76]

Blimey! been away watching a long movie, didn't expect to check the scores and see we'd banged 4 in at a PL side.

Braces for Benson & Zaroury, however the old timers also played their part, 2 assists for Brownhill, 1 apiece for Barnes and JBG.

The Clarets really are on a roll these days aren't they.

[Vegas Claret]

pretty sure that means Millwall away will need to be re-arranged

[dougcollins]

Sherwood singing our praises, for once.

He wasn’t though, was he?

The man is a turd.

[nil_desperandum]

He said 2 teams without much quality

I thought he said " not much quality in the game' which isn't quite the same thing.

[LTUK89]

McNally and Barnes very good today.

I just hope THB is ok, but otherwise, superb!

You’re 50% right.

Great win though.

[SussexDon1inIreland]

Went to the game apart from two sloppy mistakes we completely bossed Bournemouth

Great performance

My MOM was super Ashley Barnes and the fans have him a standing ovation at the end of the game

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[Rileybobs]

pretty sure that means Millwall away will need to be re-arranged

Think you’re right. That’s a bit of an arse when tickets are going on sale on Monday. Could it be a Friday night at Milwall and Monday in the cup?

[jrgbfc]

Think you’re right. That’s a bit of an arse when tickets are going on sale on Monday. Could it be a Friday night at Milwall and Monday in the cup?

They'll just rearrange Millwall for a midweek later in the season.

[Leisure]

Think you’re right. That’s a bit of an arse when tickets are going on sale on Monday. Could it be a Friday night at Milwall and Monday in the cup?

Can't see the point of starting to sell them on Monday when no-one will know the re-arranged date. Unless of course, a date was already pre-arranged incase of the game having to be postponed.

[nil_desperandum]

Think you’re right. That’s a bit of an arse when tickets are going on sale on Monday. Could it be a Friday night at Milwall and Monday in the cup?

Would it not be the case that the sale of tickets for the Millwall game was deliberately delayed to be this coming Monday to allow for the possibility that the game might not go ahead on that date?
The game will not now be going ahead and no one has bought tickets.

[Rileybobs]

Would it not be the case that the sale of tickets for the Millwall game was deliberately delayed to be this coming Monday to allow for the possibility that the game might not go ahead on that date?
The game will not now be going ahead and no one has bought tickets.

Maybe, but it seems unlikely that the rearranged date will be confirmed prior to tickets going on sale at 10am on Monday doesn't it? The 4th round draw isn't until approx 7pm on Sunday.

[nil_desperandum]

Maybe, but it seems unlikely that the rearranged date will be confirmed prior to tickets going on sale at 10am on Monday doesn't it? The 4th round draw isn't until approx 7pm on Sunday.

What I mean't was that tickets will no longer be going on sale on Monday because the match won't be happening on that date. If they had sold tickets last week, then they would have had to offer refunds. (That, IMO, is why Monday was set as the date rather than earlier)
Not sure what would have happened had there been a replay though???

[Rileybobs]

What I mean't was that tickets will no longer be going on sale on Monday because the match won't be happening on that date. If they had sold tickets last week, then they would have had to offer refunds. (That, IMO, is why Monday was set as the date rather than earlier)
Not sure what would have happened had there been a replay though???

Got you. Yeah suppose they probably won't be going on sale on Monday then.

[superdimitri]

It you had to label it what do you think the starting formation was?

[2 Bee Holed]

I’m going to sound ignorant here but this thread indicates a lot of people watching today. How? Dodgy streams all the way? Being shown abroad?

I’ve been stuck with Radio Lancs!

Could it be that people in England had their TVs tuned into American TV?

Then all you have to do is find ESPN+, who were broadcasting the match.

I'm not even sure if that's illegal though.

[Casper2]

That's going to happen occasionally. It's how we play.

Absolute rubbish

[RVclaret]

Absolute rubbish

Did you see Allison (probably best keeper in the world) yesterday?

[Casper2]

Did you see Allison (probably best keeper in the world) yesterday?

What point are you trying to make ?, there first goal wasn’t Peacock-Farrells fault.

[RVclaret]

What point are you trying to make ?, there first goal wasn’t Peacock-Farrells fault.

You are saying it’s absolute rubbish that mistakes like that may happen occasionally due to our risk taking playing out. It happened with the best keeper in the world yesterday, so it’s not absolute rubbish.

[Spijed]

That's going to happen occasionally. It's how we play.

I think Newcastle have got a good balance in how they now play and defend under Eddie Howe. He's certainly learnt how to get a team to defend and it's no coincidence that he looked at the way Simeone sets up his side. He said as much.

And with Nick Pope in goal they don't pass it around the back, nor take as many risks as we do because Pope isn't technically good enough to play those precise passes that VK likes us to do.

They still manage to attack with speed but are quite solid at the back and don't concede as many silly goals.

Surely that's something we can look at.

[Casper2]

You are saying it’s absolute rubbish that mistakes like that may happen occasionally due to our risk taking playing out. It happened with the best keeper in the world yesterday, so it’s not absolute rubbish.

There you go again mentioning the keeper , it was nothing to do with him , now go away and annoy someone else .

[RVclaret]

There you go again mentioning the keeper , it was nothing to do with him , now go away and annoy someone else .

It was both him and Cullen.

[Lancasterclaret]

It was both him and Cullen.

I don't think it was BPF to be fair, Cullen has two players free on the left to pass to, and just messed up his pass

It happens, and it will happen again

As long as we counter balance the risks by being superb the rest of the time (as we were yesterday) then it won't really matter

[RVclaret]

I don't think it was BPF to be fair, Cullen has two players free on the left to pass to, and just messed up his pass

It happens, and it will happen again

As long as we counter balance the risks by being superb the rest of the time (as we were yesterday) then it won't really matter

I don’t wanna be over analytical on a goal as it happens, but THB pointed to BPF to shift it to the left, which he didn’t, he then took a touch and played it to Cullen who had a man on him (yes it’s a poor pass). For what it’s worth, Muric probably reverse passes that to the left wing or first time passes it to Cullen. Slight differences but shows that extra bit a top ball playing keeper can have. Thought BPF has looked good in general btw.

[Rileybobs]

I don’t wanna be over analytical on a goal as it happens, but THB pointed to BPF to shift it to the left, which he didn’t, he then took a touch and played it to Cullen who had a man on him (yes it’s a poor pass). For what it’s worth, Muric probably reverse passes that to the left wing or first time passes it to Cullen. Slight differences but shows that extra bit a top ball playing keeper can have. Thought BPF has looked good in general btw.

It was quite similar to the goal we conceded earlier in the season, was it at home to Blackpool(?) where Cullen was dispossessed on the edge of our box following an inaccurate pass by Muric. I’m pretty sure you said Muric wasn’t at fault for that, so it’s strange that you’re putting blame on BPF here for a mistake which was almost entirely of Cullen’s making.

We get it, you rate Muric, but you don’t need to bend every argument to suit your stance.

[RVclaret]

It was quite similar to the goal we conceded earlier in the season, was it at home to Blackpool(?) where Cullen was dispossessed on the edge of our box following an inaccurate pass by Muric. I’m pretty sure you said Muric wasn’t at fault for that, so it’s strange that you’re putting blame on BPF here for a mistake which was almost entirely of Cullen’s making.

We get it, you rate Muric, but you don’t need to bend every argument to suit your stance.

If you were to look back, I said both were culpable at the time, which is what I’m saying now.

Also I would say Muric has learned from that and rarely plays that ball anymore, would you agree?

[Rileybobs]

If you were to look back, I said both were culpable at the time, which is what I’m saying now.

Also I would say Muric has learned from that and rarely plays that ball anymore, would you agree?

I really don’t think BPF was culpable, he played an accurate pass into Cullen and even moved into a position to receive it back. Cullen didn’t have a huge amount of pressure on him unlike the incident earlier in the season. My point is you having to bring Muric up constantly, you alluded to him on the today football thread following Alisson’s mistake, and mention him again in your player ratings for BPF.

As for Muric, I think he still plays that pass, but he’s certainly more considerate of the risk than he was earlier in the season and I’d say his use of the ball has improved greatly as the season has progressed.

[boatshed bill]

Cullen is often available for that pass.
To me it looks like he misdirects the pass, possibly even intended for Beyer.
IMO no fault whatsoever attatched to Peacock Farrell

[IWOODLOVETT]

Cullen had an excellent game yesterday and we hardly missed Cork, but their first goal was entirely his fault. He called for the ball and played it blindly across goal towards Beyer.

Cullen held his hand up and I wouldn’t want to see him lose that sense of responsibility, but the goal came at a very bad time - letting them back into the game. We were completely dominating the play at that point and as one of the Bournemouth fans said in interview “if they hadn’t of equalised then it could have got a lot worse”.

[Swizzlestick]

I think Newcastle have got a good balance in how they now play and defend under Eddie Howe. He's certainly learnt how to get a team to defend and it's no coincidence that he looked at the way Simeone sets up his side. He said as much.

And with Nick Pope in goal they don't pass it around the back, nor take as many risks as we do because Pope isn't technically good enough to play those precise passes that VK likes us to do.

They still manage to attack with speed but are quite solid at the back and don't concede as many silly goals.

Surely that's something we can look at.

We have the second best defensive record in the league and the best attacking record in the league. I don’t think we need to be looking at anybody. Maybe NUFC are better defensively because they’ve spent £60m on defenders.

They also lost yesterday to a team two leagues below them.

[RVclaret]

I really don’t think BPF was culpable, he played an accurate pass into Cullen and even moved into a position to receive it back. Cullen didn’t have a huge amount of pressure on him unlike the incident earlier in the season. My point is you having to bring Muric up constantly, you alluded to him on the today football thread following Alisson’s mistake, and mention him again in your player ratings for BPF.

As for Muric, I think he still plays that pass, but he’s certainly more considerate of the risk than he was earlier in the season and I’d say his use of the ball has improved greatly as the season has progressed.

The point about Alisson was about playing out from the back, he made a huge error doing it, a previous poster said it’s absolute rubbish that errors will happen from this type of play.

As for the today football thread, just trying to educate others that top keepers make errors. What a shocker from De Gea the other day too.

[Spijed]

We have the second best defensive record in the league and the best attacking record in the league. I don’t think we need to be looking at anybody. Maybe NUFC are better defensively because they’ve spent £60m on defenders.

They also lost yesterday to a team two leagues below them.

I'm purely thinking about next season in the Prem.

[Rileybobs]

The point about Alisson was about playing out from the back, he made a huge error doing it, a previous poster said it’s absolute rubbish that errors will happen from this type of play.

As for the today football thread, just trying to educate others that top keepers make errors. What a shocker from De Gea the other day too.

Yeah, you also referred to Muric when DeGea cocked up, I’m not sure what point you keep trying to make. People don’t need ‘educating’ that top keepers make errors, I’m sure people can see that for themselves.

[Swizzlestick]

I'm purely thinking about next season in the Prem.

But there’s no reason why we can’t stick to our style and adapt to compete, especially when we’ve shown it’s effective against a current Premier League team. Look at Fulham - their defence is practically unchanged. NUFC is a poor comparison because they’ve spent fortunes on new players and are operating on a different level now. They are solid because they’ve picked up one of the best keepers in the country, spent £35m on Botman and signed Trippier, Burn, Targett etc etc.

[Colburn_Claret]

Mistakes like yesterday will happen again this season, and probably more often next.
It's a price VK is willing to pay, for the benefits of controlling the ball, and the game. HE knows it can happen, He isn't bothered.
We gifted Boro a goal and won 3-1, we gifted B'nmouth a goal and won 4-2. We could have played more defensively and drawn both games 0-0. So much of our attacking intent, and goals scored, is based on the passing around at the back. I can understand where the frustration comes from, but I think people would enjoy the football a lot more if they just let it go. Accept that it's going to happen now and again, and enjoy the wonderful benefits it gives us at the other end of the pitch.