Weghorst to… Man United?

[Quicknick]

Good player. I'll be interested to see how he does.

[Lancasterclaret]

Which article was this? Can't seem to find it

Only posted this morning, will try to find it

[Clovius Boofus]

Cannot blame Besiktas for trying to get the most out of this. I'd like to think that we would do the same.

[tiger76]

I don’t think it’s a case of them deciding to let him go, it’s him deciding he’s going.

Yep! in the modern game players have all the power rightly or wrongly.

No point Besiktas forcing him to stay if his heart was set on OT.

From Burnley's POV this could work to our advantage, if Weghorst scores a few in the PL it will be noticed and his fee might rise, whereas even though he bagged a decent amount in Turkey few would have been following his progress, but the spotlight is most certainly on the PL and Man Utd every game.

[Clovius Boofus]

From Burnley's POV this could work to our advantage, if Weghorst scores a few in the PL it will be noticed and his fee might rise

We now have him in the best shop window in the world.

[ClaretAL]

How long is his contract with us?

[MancunianClaret]

Only posted this morning, will try to find it

Just found it https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... r-25954821

They are keen on signing Cameroon striker Vincent Aboubakar from Al Nassr but wages have so far been a stumbling block to any deal. It is understood United will pay around £2.5million to Besiktas as compensation so they terminate the loan, allowing Burnley to sanction a temporary move to Manchester. Burnley would also receive a loan fee from the Premier League side and United would cover the forward's wages.

[Lip]

A win / win situation for the Clarets then.

[SalisburyClaret]

Man U have bought out the loan agreement but do Besiktas still have the agreement in place to buy WW for £10m at the end of the season - or do we still have a say in this?

[FCBurnley]

Sounds to me that Man U have paid Besiktas to terminate the original loan and now have a new 6 month loan deal with Burnley. Assume a small loan fee an Man U paying wages and an option to buy at an agreed amount

[Spijed]

Yep! in the modern game players have all the power rightly or wrongly.

Not always the case though. Daniel Levy refused to sell Harry Kane recently.

[MrTopTier]

Utd won’t buy Weghotst.
He is a stop gap till the Summer, when they will probably buy Harry Kane for about £80 million.
The best we can hope for is that he has a good six months at Utd. He can than either come back to us or we can still get our money back by selling him on.

[AfloatinClaret]

Utd won’t buy Weghotst.
He is a stop gap till the Summer, when they will probably buy Harry Kane for about £80 million.

I think you're right, unless Wout bags a bucketful of goals and they keep him instead. I reckon we're well in either way, as someone said earlier, 'the best shop window in the world' and/or we get to see for ourselves how he'd perform for us in next year's PL.

[boatshed bill]

Man U have bought out the loan agreement but do Besiktas still have the agreement in place to buy WW for £10m at the end of the season - or do we still have a say in this?

I can't imagine Besiktas wanting anything to do with him after this malarky.

[Spijed]

Man U have bought out the loan agreement but do Besiktas still have the agreement in place to buy WW for £10m at the end of the season - or do we still have a say in this?

Considering we hold his registration as he's our player for another 2 years or so he won't be allowed to move to Man U. without our say so.

[IanMcL]

Looks like we have secured our first summer signing!

Moufi. (Moroccan)

https://sportwitness.co.uk/defender-agr ... -transfer/

[RVclaret]

VK on WW staying at Burnley

"It has to play out how it plays out. If he's wanting, willing and everything is right, then it makes it easier than to go and spend more money in the transfer market."

[equinox]

even though he bagged a decent amount in Turkey few would have been following his progress.

He's just signed for Man United.

[Spijed]

As was asked on another forum, when was the last time a top 4 PL team signed an unwanted player from a Championship club?

Can't have happened too many times before.

[grapidianclaret]

He will probably go to Newcastle in the summer.
I think he would do ok for ys in the PL and thus system,but trust in VK and what he believes.

[equinox]

He isn't 'unwanted' though.

[1882Clarets1882]

Looks like we have secured our first summer signing!

Moufi. (Moroccan)

https://sportwitness.co.uk/defender-agr ... -transfer/

If all these signings come off and they prove to be the rough diamonds VK's previous ones have been, it'll be fantastic business longer term.

[claretcarrot93]

As was asked on another forum, when was the last time a top 4 PL team signed an unwanted player from a Championship club?

Can't have happened too many times before.

He would be wanted. Going off Kompany's comments today he clearly rates him.

[tiger76]

He's just signed for Man United.

Yes on a short term loan deal until the end of the season, let's see whether they are interested in buying him permanently come the summer.

Hopefully from Burnley's perspective they are, but if not and he does well at Utd that can only enhance our prospects of recouping all or most of our initial outlay.

You can never be certain about anything in football but I'll be surprised if Weghorst returns to Burnley, and if he doesn't wish to come back, or VK doesn't want him then the best we can expect is too at least break even on this transfer, sometimes transfers don't work out for a variety of reasons, and sadly it appears that's been the outcome here.

[tiger76]

He will probably go to Newcastle in the summer.
I think he would do ok for ys in the PL and thus system,but trust in VK and what he believes.

£25m is the going rate for strikers beginning with W for Newcastle so I'd be more than happy with that.

A front 3 of Weghorst, Wilson and Wood would certainly prove a mouthful for the commentators.

[Big Vinny K]

He would be wanted. Going off Kompany's comments today he clearly rates him.

Which of his comments made you think that ?
All I heard was that anyone contracted to Burnley he needs to have a conversation with as it could potentially save going into the transfer market.

[equinox]

Yes on a short term loan deal until the end of the season, let's see whether they are interested in buying him permanently come the summer.

Hopefully from Burnley's perspective they are, but if not and he does well at Utd that can only enhance our prospects of recouping all or most of our initial outlay.

You can never be certain about anything in football but I'll be surprised if Weghorst returns to Burnley, and if he doesn't wish to come back, or VK doesn't want him then the best we can expect is too at least break even on this transfer, sometimes transfers don't work out for a variety of reasons, and sadly it appears that's been the outcome here.

Alsorts of permutations but surely the best was that he stayed, continued scoring goals at Besiktas and they then bought him in the summer?

[MT03ALG]

Weghorst is now the best player in the world since his wish to play for Man Utd

[equinox]

Weghorst is now the best player in the world since his wish to play for Man Utd

He is one of them but then so are you.

[bobinho]

Weghorst is now the best player in the world since his wish to play for Man Utd

Nope, but he’s clearly not as bad as some muppets on here think he is if man yoo think he can do a job for them.

[Spijed]

So Man U. paying €3 million to Besiktas.

Will we get anything out of the deal?

[NRC]

Nope, but he’s clearly not as bad as some muppets on here think he is if man yoo think he can do a job for them.

careful Bobinho, I was castigated on here for using the term "straw-chewer," some of the castigations even deleted. I guess referring to posters as muppets is less of a sin

[kaptin1]

So Man U. paying €3 million to Besiktas.

Will we get anything out of the deal?

I would assume Besiktas paid us a loan fee and agreed to cover his wages for the full season. I expect that United are just compensating Besiktas for terminating his loan early while also picking up his wages for the rest of the season. I’m not sure we get paid again as we will have already received the loan fee for the full year from Besiktas.

[FeedTheArf]

So Man U. paying €3 million to Besiktas.

Will we get anything out of the deal?

https://www.unitedinfocus.com/news/besi ... on-clause/

This article (unsure of source), seems to think we’ll be splitting the loan fee. No purchase option.

[Casper2]

If the loan deal has been cancelled then surely that includes the buy out clause , or you would hope so.

[claretspice]

Good luck to him. If he does well, chances of us getting our money back on him increase (Besiktas' option wasn't worth much to us - the option was in their favour so was basically a maximum purchase price and didn't guarantee us anything). If he doesn't go particularly well then we'll have him back a bit more Premier League hardened.

Pretty sure he'll suit United's 433 system better than the 442 he came into last season, just as he'd suit VKs system better. He's a classic Dutch forward and thrives with players running in behind him from wide and/or the 10 position.

[MrTechno]

Good luck to him. If he does well, chances of us getting our money back on him increase (Besiktas' option wasn't worth much to us - the option was in their favour so was basically a maximum purchase price and didn't guarantee us anything). If he doesn't go particularly well then we'll have him back a bit more Premier League hardened.

Pretty sure he'll suit United's 433 system better than the 442 he came into last season, just as he'd suit VKs system better. He's a classic Dutch forward and thrives with players running in behind him from wide and/or the 10 position.

I think that’s exactly it. Puts him ‘more’ in the shop window to fund players in the summer if we go up or he comes back to us and plays in the league above with us. We can’t afford a goal scorer in the premier league, it’s the one position clubs barely get a bargain in, as it takes a long time for the players to adopt. I can only think of Michu (Dennis perhaps for Watford but don’t know the fee, probably quite a bit) who managed it and how many years ago was that? So I wouldn’t be averse to him coming back in as long as the squad are happy with that.

[equinox]

(Besiktas' option wasn't worth much to us - the option was in their favour so was basically a maximum purchase price and didn't guarantee us anything).

Totally made up and in anycase doesn't make sense.

[boatshed bill]

It would be interesting (to me at least) to see how he might get on at Man Utd...can he manage half a season without throwing his toys out of his pram?

[equinox]

It would be interesting (to me at least) to see how he might get on at Man Utd...can he manage half a season without throwing his toys out of his pram?

Where else has he done that; thrown his toys out his pram (cringe)?

[Duffer_]

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[boatshed bill]

Where else has he done that; thrown his toys out his pram (cringe)?

Besiktas for starters. Do you condone that sort of behaviour?
But let's just see how things pan out.

[equinox]

Besiktas for starters. Do you condone that sort of behaviour?

Well it hasn't done him much harm has it? He's just signed for Manchester United after just recently returning from the World Cup finals, maybe if you'd shown a bit more of his attitude you'd be a Shipyard.

[BleedingClaret]

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That’s a smirk not a smile
He’s not easy to like