16 points clear of third

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:58 pm

Before today's games we were 14 points clear of Rovers in third. We're now 16 points clear.

Immense.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:58 pm

They ain't anymore!

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:09 pm

Rovers could easily miss out on play offs

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:12 pm

4 teams within 3 points of Rovers

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:12 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:09 pm
Rovers could easily miss out on play offs

My only surprise would be if they actually made the play offs.

Newty · Post by **Newty** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:13 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:09 pm
Rovers could easily miss out on play offs

I'm certain they will. Finally starting to get the results their performances deserve and Middlesbrough, West Brom, Watford and Norwich all finding form after poor starts from the lot of them.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:13 pm

A good place to be in for sure, however West Brom will provide a stern test on Friday.

Apart from the top 2 a cigarette paper separates the rest of the division who are all capable of beating each other on any given day.

We just need to keep churning out the results and we'll be promoted no matter what others do.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:15 pm

Table starting to take shape now.
Replace Rovers with Norwich and I think that's the season sorted.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm

Has there been a time when the automatic promotion places have been decided this early?

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:22 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm
Has there been a time when the automatic promotion places have been decided this early?

In the Championship? Mathematically I don't think so. I read recently that only 1 team has had more points than what we have at this stage of the season.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:25 pm

We're 16 points clear of Watford in third. They have a GD of 5 whilst ours is 28.
That means that effectively they (or whoever is in third) need to make up SIX wins while we would have to lose six.

Aint gonna happen.
Relax.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:26 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:09 pm
Rovers could easily miss out on play offs

they'll finish bottom half

1882Clarets1882 · Post by **1882Clarets1882** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:28 pm

Big big test next Friday. WBA on a great run like us and we'll be without Corky. We'll need to be well up for it. Cos West Brom will be, you can be sure of that.

Bring it on.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:31 pm

16 points clear of turds

Robbie_painter · Post by **Robbie_painter** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:35 pm

1882Clarets1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:28 pm
Big big test next Friday. WBA on a great run like us and we'll be without Corky. We'll need to be well up for it. Cos West Brom will be, you can be sure of that.

Bring it on.

They’ve got a game on Tuesday which will hopefully work in our favour.

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:39 pm

Mind the gap

There are still 19 games and 57 points left to play for in the Championship, but the automatic promotion race is looking increasingly like a closed shop.

From the BBC.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:20 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:31 pm
16 points clear of turds

Watford??

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:23 pm

17 clear of horses

equinox · Post by **equinox** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:25 pm

4midable wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:23 pm
17 clear of horses

Who are only 16 clear of third from bottom Blackpool.

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:36 pm

I think I phrased the original post incorrectly. What I meant is we were 14 points clear of the team currently in 3rd place. And we're now 16 points clear of the team in 3rd place.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:38 pm

Robbie_painter wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:35 pm
They’ve got a game on Tuesday which will hopefully work in our favour.

Think they made 11 changes their last cup game, probably do similar on Tuesday.

1882Clarets1882 · Post by **1882Clarets1882** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:06 pm

Robbie_painter wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:35 pm
They’ve got a game on Tuesday which will hopefully work in our favour.

Id not realised that . Yeah fingers crossed . A late late winner , 6th minute of extra time would make amends for conceding so late at the hawthorns would do nicely.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:48 pm

HiThere wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:58 pm
Before today's games we were 14 points clear of Rovers in third. We're now 16 points clear.

Immense.

Plus 1 for goal difference!

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:50 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:48 pm
Plus 1 for goal difference!

That really is impressive as you kinda just forget about it due to the points. A GD of 28 with Watford a GD of 5.
Bloody mad.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 pm

HiThere wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:50 pm
That really is impressive as you kinda just forget about it due to the points. A GD of 28 with Watford a GD of 5.
Bloody mad.

Yes equivalent of 17 with 19 to go!

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:10 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm
Has there been a time when the automatic promotion places have been decided this early?

They are nowhere near being sorted despite the present gulf

equinox · Post by **equinox** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:22 pm

The Coventry lads put up a good show but were blowing out their arse's by 70 minutes, they literally didn't have anything to bring on that would make a difference (like us under Dyche), so didn't. We did and those subs made the difference.

It's not just that we're really good, it's compounded with the fact that everyone else's...isn't.

The perfect storm.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:10 am

It was really weird today. I felt myself down for thinking we might “only” get a draw. This keep winning thing means we need to keep telling ourselves it’s ok if we don’t

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:36 am

What an incredible season. Absolutely blown away watching these lads and not only are we enjoying it, but also it looks like they clearly are too. Will live long in the memory this one.

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:28 am

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:36 am
What an incredible season. Absolutely blown away watching these lads and not only are we enjoying it, but also it looks like they clearly are too. Will live long in the memory this one.

Loving it.

Claretitus · Post by **Claretitus** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:20 am

We will lose another at some point, but these lads will just shrug it off, get on with it and probably produce another run like we’ve been on since Sheff Utd away. Loving it at the minute, great to see. UTC.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:25 am

I posted on one of their forums that I thought they’d do well to finish within 30 points of us.

They took umbrage at that and called me arrogant. I absolutely stand by it, I think we’ll possibly go over 100 points.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

The six big favourites at the start of the season are now looking like being the top six.

I reckon only 7 more wins will be needed to be promoted though (86 pts, with a few draws too, 7-6-6 from 19 games) so I'm not looking over my shoulder. The title will need more of course.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:40 am

Socrates wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:25 am
I posted on one of their forums that I thought they’d do well to finish within 30 points of us.

They took umbrage at that and called me arrogant. I absolutely stand by it, I think we’ll possibly go over 100 points.

Distinctly possible now.

eastcoastclaret · Post by **eastcoastclaret** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:40 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am
The six big favourites at the start of the season are now looking like being the top six.

I reckon only 7 more wins will be needed to be promoted though (86 pts, with a few draws too, 7-6-6 from 19 games) so I'm not looking over my shoulder. The title will need more of course.

Probably need another 5 wins to guarantee a playoff first. Incredible really considering we are only mid January

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:47 am

eastcoastclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:40 am
Probably need another 5 wins to guarantee a playoff first. Incredible really considering we are only mid January

If we get to the fa cup semi final it's played on the weekend we play B@stards away, this then could put our game against them to midweek around the the middle of April, it would be beautiful to win promotion on their ground

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:03 am

Sheff Utd are beginning to get annoying. They just won’t go away will they? They are like wasps at a picnic. Still, I do quite like them and I hope they go up with us (but obviously not as champions).

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:11 am

I say on the latest lanclasico pod that Rovers will finish twelfth. A little tongue in cheek but I think they'll do well to finish top ten.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:17 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:47 am
If we get to the fa cup semi final it's played on the weekend we play B@stards away, this then could put our game against them to midweek around the the middle of April, it would be beautiful to win promotion on their ground

It's the quarter finals the weekend of 18th March when we play them, if we beat Ipswich and they win against Forest Green/Birmingham it means only one of us have to win in the next round for the game to be moved.

Looking at the teams left I'd say theres a good chance one of us could make it to the quarters.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:20 am

houseboy wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:03 am
Sheff Utd are beginning to get annoying. They just won’t go away will they? They are like wasps at a picnic. Still, I do quite like them and I hope they go up with us (but obviously not as champions).

Imagine how they feel about us. After the Bramhall Lane debacle, they probably thought they'd have easily passed us by now. I sort of felt the same walking back to the car.

claretinkorea · Post by **claretinkorea** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:22 am

houseboy wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:03 am
Sheff Utd are beginning to get annoying. They just won’t go away will they? They are like wasps at a picnic. Still, I do quite like them and I hope they go up with us (but obviously not as champions).

I think that this is a mutual feeling that the Sheff U fans also have towards Burnley. Seen a few times on their forum their incredulity that no matter how many they win, the gap doesn't seem to get any smaller.

eastcoastclaret · Post by **eastcoastclaret** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:26 am

claretinkorea wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:22 am
I think that this is a mutual feeling that the Sheff U fans also have towards Burnley. Seen a few times on their forum their incredulity that no matter how many they win, the gap doesn't seem to get any smaller.

It's probably a good thing, drives both teams on

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:37 am

Will be interesting to see how the current points total for the team in third compares to last few seasons as that's the only figure that really matters.

eastcoastclaret · Post by **eastcoastclaret** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:45 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:37 am
Will be interesting to see how the current points total for the team in third compares to last few seasons as that's the only figure that really matters.

I think after 27 games last season, 3rd place had 6 points more than the team in 3rd this season.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:45 am

houseboy wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:03 am
Sheff Utd are beginning to get annoying. They just won’t go away will they? They are like wasps at a picnic. Still, I do quite like them and I hope they go up with us (but obviously not as champions).

It’s a good thing. Keeps us honest. Sometimes if you’re just up there in your own and a bit of complacency can set in.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:03 pm

We're slowly puling away from Sheff Utd too. They dropped two points recently.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:51 pm

eastcoastclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:45 am
I think after 27 games last season, 3rd place had 6 points more than the team in 3rd this season.

Two seasons ago it was ten points more.

Also in the last two seasons at least every team in the play-offs had more points than Watford currently have in 3rd after 27 matches.

So it's highly likely that we won't need the same number of points to get promoted. Possibly no more than 88-89 at the most.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:53 pm

So realistically we'd be looking at 8-9 wins plus a few draws to go up.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:01 pm

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:45 am
It’s a good thing. Keeps us honest. Sometimes if you’re just up there in your own and a bit of complacency can set in.

I cannot see VK allowing complacency to set in ... He is continuing the "one game at a time" mantra that served us so well in the past.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:02 pm

As I can't edit, the figures are based on the best case scenario for another side going on a fantastic run.

When we last went up we'd got 51 points out of the last 22 matches. That's 2.32 pts per game or 106 points over the season. If Watford were to replicate that form for here it would leave them on 87.

Likewise WBA on 85.