United

[basil6345789]

Wout playing well, value rising

[claretburns]

Wout playing well, value rising

Don't tell Newcastleclaret that!

[Milltown1882]

No goals in two games while Haaland is averaging 62 minutes a goal. Levels to it in Manchester.

[Foshiznik]

He has played well, especially today. Surprised some fans don’t seem to understand how there is more to a striker than scoring goals in modern football.

[Vegas Claret]

as we saw, strikers tend not to score unless they get service. The only ones that do are the pacey ones

[Foshiznik]

No goals in two games while Haaland is averaging 62 minutes a goal. Levels to it in Manchester.

He’s levels above any striker so it’s a bit harsh to measure Weghorst against him. United could have signed the second best striker in the world and the stats wouldn’t look any less one sided.

[CoolClaret]

He has played well, especially today. Surprised some fans don’t seem to understand how there is more to a striker than scoring goals in modern football.

Aye - these are the sort of ‘fans’ that give Muric a 5 every week

[BurnleyFC]

They’re bang average considering they’re currently third in the Premier League.

Ten Haag is as defensive as Mourinho was and I’m not convinced he’s the answer for them.

[RVclaret]

Had an okay game today, some lovely touches, a lot better than 90m man Antony and McTominey, who was woeful.

[taio]

No goals in two games while Haaland is averaging 62 minutes a goal. Levels to it in Manchester.

A fair comparison

[Elizabeth]

For all his good closing down , little runs and lay offs …………

[equinox]

Played predominantly in midfield, sort of why United got beat.

[Silkyskills1]

He has played well, especially today. Surprised some fans don’t seem to understand how there is more to a striker than scoring goals in modern football.

I've always rated strikers by the number of goals they score. The better ones score more than the average ones and the best ones score more than both of them. A long list of such players is a available for anyone to research and browse through.

[Quickenthetempo]

The two wide lads don’t pass the ball. They will always shoot, not set Weggy up.

[Foshiznik]

I've always rated strikers by the number of goals they score. The better ones score more than the average ones and the best ones score more than both of them. A long list of such players is a available for anyone to research and browse through.

They also hold the ball up well, bring other attacking players into the play and link up the transition from defence to attack. All of which Weghorst did well today. Doesn’t mean he played badly because he didn’t score though. The fact you don’t rate him because he doesn’t compare to the best of the best is strange as if he was he wouldn’t be anywhere near a transfer target for us.

[Shaggy]

Let’s be honest Weghorst is better than Wood

[Spiral]

A striker obviously has roles beyond scoring, but he doesn't seem to do even a lot of that at PL level. Not a target man, so don't expect him to hold the line. Okay, fine, he'll come deep and receive the ball. But then the opposition can move their defensive line up the field, and UTD (and us when he was here) lose team shape depth and this crowds the middle of the pitch making games a midfield battle, because you're basically playing 4-6 at that point, so if you don't win that battle you don't win the game, but hey, he'll create space for runners by dropping deep, right? Fair point, but if you want a deeper set No.10 then why not just sign a No.10 who does that job well instead of signing a No.9 to to play that role in a very mediocre way?

If the highest praise you can give to a player is that they do a job outside their primary role to a reasonably competent degree, it says a lot about how well they do their primary role as a player that you struggle to find moments of them doing it well worthy of highlight and praise.

[Marty Dobson]

Wout .. is that Dutch for long string of egocentric misery.

[dermotdermot]

He looked pretty average to me. Not as good as our two strikers.

[RVclaret]

Let’s be honest Weghorst is better than Wood

Definitely agree here

[Quickenthetempo]

He looked pretty average to me. Not as good as our two strikers.

Get on the phone to United and try to convince them about Barnes being better.

[Darnhill Claret]

Just as we have had to get used to a different type of keeper, we are also going to have to get used to a different type of number 9, or false 9. VK I think prefers footballers who can do a bit of everything and he’s not bothered who scores the goals. Haaland is going to break all kinds of scoring records, but is he going to make Man City a better team.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Don't tell Newcastleclaret that!

Weghorst playing well tonight haha.

[Boss Hogg]

Looked to offer about as much as he offered us. Some nice touches, bit of movement and a few short passes. Not sure he’s good enough for Man Utd or the PL.

[Lancasterclaret]

Wout holds the ball up well, has some nice touches (a couple of really good ones today) but his pace just isn't enough for a top side

Perfectly good premier league player though, but as a hard working, link striker rather than someone who will bang in goals

Put it one way, he's not the reason United have stuttered last couple of games

[FCBurnley]

So what’s he worth now then?

[Tricky Trevor]

Had an okay game today, some lovely touches, a lot better than 90m man Antony and McTominey, who was woeful.

I’ve said for a long while that McTominay is one of the major problems at ManU. He’s a bottom 6 PL player and no better.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’ve said for a long while that McTominay is one of the major problems at ManU. He’s a bottom 6 PL player and no better.

I think bottom 6 is a bit harsh. He’s a bit like Perriera. Not good enough for United but there is quality there. Look at Perriera now at Fulham he’s flying

[4midable]

Couple of decent touches
Other than that hes showed why hes not a top 6 prem striker

[Tricky Trevor]

I think bottom 6 is a bit harsh. He’s a bit like Perriera. Not good enough for United but there is quality there. Look at Perriera now at Fulham he’s flying

I’m just not sure what he is. He’s not a holding midfielder as he’s always getting booked for hauling guys down as they run past him, he’s not a ball carrier, he’s not a late into the box goal scorer. He’s just meh for me.

[Spike]

Let’s be honest Weghorst is better than Wood

The records book say different!Wood ten goals a season man in Premier League

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’m just not sure what he is. He’s not a holding midfielder as he’s always getting booked for hauling guys down as they run past him, he’s not a ball carrier, he’s not a late into the box goal scorer. He’s just meh for me.

I think he’s box to box but I agree I don’t think he’s particularly gifted at anything just not bad at anything if that makes sense.

[Spike]

Couple of decent touches
Other than that hes showed why hes not a top 6 prem striker

Send the Turkey back to Turkey!
Not good enough for our current team and a troublemaker

[Claretmisterg]

I thought Ten Hag was aware if something in Wout’s game that would benefit United. Obviously being aware of him with the Dutch connection. Buggered if I can see it.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Offered as much to man United as he did for us....

2/3rd of 5/8ths of sod all.

[Billyblah]

I’ve said for a long while that McTominay is one of the major problems at ManU. He’s a bottom 6 PL player and no better.

And yet McTominay did manage to score against us when United ran out 3-1 winners over us Dec 21 before we slipped into the Championship.

[HunterST_BFC]

He'd have easily scored double figures by now in our team.

I hope Wout ends up back with us.

[Spiral]

He'd have easily scored double figures by now in our team.

I hope Wout ends up back with us.

No offence, HunterST, but I've no clue where people get these ideas from.

Come to think of it I can't remember him shooting. Like, I can't remember what it looks like. Genuinely. I know what Jay looks like shooting, his body shape etc with the low backlift, I know Barnes — he just smashes it with all his power, I know what Wood looked like shooting, I remember Gray striking the ball, Ings, but I'm genuinely struggling to remember what Weghorst, a striker, looks like striking a ball.

[Spiral]

He played 1,457 minutes for us. In total that's over 24 hours he played for us (24h 16m), an entire day of my life I won't get back where I watched Weghorst run around for Burnley, and for the life of me I genuinely can't describe how he strikes a ball. Baffling.

[Spiral]

*24h 17m, lol I can't type

[4midable]

No offence, HunterST, but I've no clue where people get these ideas from.

Come to think of it I can't remember him shooting. Like, I can't remember what it looks like. Genuinely. I know what Jay looks like shooting, his body shape etc with the low backlift, I know Barnes — he just smashes it with all his power, I know what Wood looked like shooting, I remember Gray striking the ball, Ings, but I'm genuinely struggling to remember what Weghorst, a striker, looks like striking a ball.

Agree. Hes crap.get shut

[Silkyskills1]

They also hold the ball up well, bring other attacking players into the play and link up the transition from defence to attack. All of which Weghorst did well today. Doesn’t mean he played badly because he didn’t score though. The fact you don’t rate him because he doesn’t compare to the best of the best is strange as if he was he wouldn’t be anywhere near a transfer target for us.

Never said he.played badly. Never said I don't rate him. Don't know where that came from. Anyway, strikers score goals. Their goals win games. Sometimes people/ pundits might like to dissect their game to highlight what they don't do. Ultimately successful sides have players that put the ball in the back of the opposition net to win games. Goalscorers are renowned, the best of them over generations. I appreciate the part other players contribute to a football team but goalscorers are like gold dust to the success of any football team at any level in the game.

[Hibsclaret]

They seemed to be doing well until he turned up. That’s 1 point in 2 games when they were looking good.

[HunterST_BFC]

No offence, HunterST, but I've no clue where people get these ideas from.

Come to think of it I can't remember him shooting. Like, I can't remember what it looks like. Genuinely. I know what Jay looks like shooting, his body shape etc with the low backlift, I know Barnes — he just smashes it with all his power, I know what Wood looked like shooting, I remember Gray striking the ball, Ings, but I'm genuinely struggling to remember what Weghorst, a striker, looks like striking a ball.

No offence taken.
You are wrong.
In our current way of playing, he'd get more chances and convert more...
He also makes great runs dragging op' players all over.

He'd also be a huge help when we defend corners etc. - our main weakness right now.

[quoonbeatz]

Doubt it given he can't head a ball. Absolutely junk in the air given his size.

[AfloatinClaret]

He'd have easily scored double figures by now in our team.

I hope Wout ends up back with us.

I'm not convinced that he'd have 'double figures' by now and I would happily see him moved on in the summer for a reasonable price, but dependent upon salary cost, I'd rather we kept him in our squad than let him go for <£8 or 9 million.

[dermotdermot]

They seemed to be doing well until he turned up. That’s 1 point in 2 games when they were looking good.

I’ll say. Okay, a couple of nice touches but he is a second rate striker. Is that the best they could have got. Certainly don’t want him back here.

[Jakubclaret]

No offence taken.
You are wrong.
In our current way of playing, he'd get more chances and convert more...
He also makes great runs dragging op' players all over.

He'd also be a huge help when we defend corners etc. - our main weakness right now.

He would he'd score an hatful in this league the defences are so porous.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No offence taken.
You are wrong.
In our current way of playing, he'd get more chances and convert more...
He also makes great runs dragging op' players all over.

He'd also be a huge help when we defend corners etc. - our main weakness right now.

He would probably score a few at this level. As we all know it’s abysmal in this league. But in the prem in our squad he would be totally ineffective

[AlargeClaret]

You’d expect him to score a few if starting regular with some of the talent in that Man Utd team . Though he looks a bit at odds the way Man Utd play . He reminds me of the way we play Jay Rod now , deep with touches ,lay offs etc but few classic centre forward chances .