Current squad v Last Season

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Current squad v Last Season

Post by Roosterbooster » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:49 pm

Assuming the Foster deal goes through, and McNally goes on loan, here are the 2 squads, side by side

I've had to slightly fudge the positions to make it fit (Taylor for example), but it's difficult to see how we are weaker
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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:52 pm

It’s weaker for me in certain positions but completely different football styles now so all irrelevant really
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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:54 pm

Everything past defence is far better this season. Far far far better
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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by martin_p » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:57 pm

Unless you can tell me how the majority of the players on the right would perform in the Premier League I’m not sure how you can tell!
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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:57 pm

biggest difference is on the pitch, attendances have somewhat proved the theory that people want to be entertained regardless of the division their team plays in (any team, any club)
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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by fatboy47 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:09 pm

Better now.

And by a country mile.

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by Marney&Mee » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:10 pm

Relegation has worked in our favour. Maybe that's what Everton need as well. Clean sweep and re-build

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by Paddy1882 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:18 pm

Attacking and Midfield wise 100% better, full backs i believe we are better off as well, However in terms of centre back i think we are weaker but only just, i do though believe we lost the best goalkeeper in the country in Nick Pope in my opinion so we are definitely weaker there.

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by HiThere » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:28 pm

I'd say it's about level. In some areas we're weaker and in some stronger. I don't see an obvious overall 'winner'. Pope in goal, McNeil through the middle (10), Cornet or Vydra with Zaroury/Benson on either side. Tarky alongside Beyer or THB.

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:03 pm

We were shite for most of last season.

It’s hard to imagine we could have been much worse.

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by Stalbansclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:07 pm

Interesting to look at that.
Weaker in goal but given our style under Kompany you could probably make the case for Muric on balance notwithstanding Pope's brilliance as a keeper.
Weaker at CB I'd say but maybe not by very much
Similar, and definitely not weaker, in midfield
Stronger going forward mainly by virtue of the brilliance of Benson and Zaroury

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by claretfern » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:25 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:10 pm
Relegation has worked in our favour. Maybe that's what Everton need as well. Clean sweep and re-build
This is exactly what needs to happen with Everton. The fans won't like it . But....

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by scouseclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:57 pm
biggest difference is on the pitch, attendances have somewhat proved the theory that people want to be entertained regardless of the division their team plays in (any team, any club)
Winning trumps entertaining every time. Having both is Nirvana.
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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:33 pm

Old stronger in midfield, and generally better cover.
Pope the best keeper, PL central defence better through having lots of experience.

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by Shaggy » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:36 pm

The new team is better.

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:13 pm

It’s completely irrelevant, that was the Prem this is the Champ. Though I believe if we’d kept everyone from last least ( I know but just for comparison) we’d have also walked this league . That said we wouldn’t have had the sheer dominance and points total and more exciting open style of play . This defence and mid this season would be eaten alive in the prem .

It’s apples and oranges , though I’m very much enjoying the fresh oranges this season .

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:15 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:33 pm
Old stronger in midfield, and generally better cover.
Pope the best keeper, PL central defence better through having lots of experience.
Oops, I've made the daftest mistake, putting old where I meant new. :D

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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by NRC » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:50 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:13 pm
It’s completely irrelevant, that was the Prem this is the Champ. Though I believe if we’d kept everyone from last least ( I know but just for comparison) we’d have also walked this league . That said we wouldn’t have had the sheer dominance and points total and more exciting open style of play . This defence and mid this season would be eaten alive in the prem .

It’s apples and oranges , though I’m very much enjoying the fresh oranges this season .
it's not a comparison I would make on a player-to-player basis. It's the system played. The SD teams remained in the PL for six seasons, but on a player-to-player basis you'd make the same statement regarding eaten alive, but the system brought a collective strength beyond the individual players.

I sense that the squad we currently have would fare just as well in the PL as the SD team, just in a different way. We'd concede more, but we'd score more..... but we'll never know
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Re: Current squad v Last Season

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:55 pm

Earlier in the season I thought if last season’s team and this season’s team played out a hypothetical match, it’d have 0-0 written all over it.

I’m now almost certain that this season’s team would win convincingly - don’t underestimate just how much confidence plays a part in picking up wins, and last year’s team was devoid of confidence for most of the season.

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