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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:07 pm

I stood on the Longside before it was covered. I think the original covering of the Longside would have been in the early 50"s
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:12 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:03 pm
I'm the same. My brother remembers all the games he went to, he started going a few years before me. I must have been 4 or 5 when I first went on. Small enough to be carried out of the ground on my Dads shoulders.
Who we played I don't have a clue, what stuck with me was the crowds and the atmosphere.
I recall we'd enter the ground from under the old CFS, walk around onto the longside. The fences to the front had gone, but the turnstiles still remained, and kids my size used to hustle to climb on them for a better view.

I was fortunate to go to the Casino regular, and just like the Longside, unless you've been there it's just impossible to convey to anyone else what it was like to be there and live it. Long Live The Longside.

Happy days
Brilliant post, Colburn....

That FA Cup tie in '55/'56 against Chelsea is my first recollection, from a form in front of he wall of the Enclosure.......but there must have been league games before that.......If only I could still ask my Dad ?......He saw the 30 games undefeated in '20/'21.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:33 pm

Burnley 0 Arsenal 1 in August 1950 was my first game at the tender age of 6. Christ come August 73 years a Claret-Dad wherever you are "what have you inflicted on me and me on my sons and my grandchildren who live the other end of the country?" Certainly nurture not nature

Googled Turf Moor and fascinating info re Longside which was covered in 1954 planning for it was done in 1938 but the war stopped it happening
In 1891, another local football team, Burnley Union Star, disbanded and abandoned their ground, which included a grandstand. Burnley bought the stand and moved it to the north side of Turf Moor, where it became known as the Stars Stand.[4]
The Stars Stand was demolished in 1898 and replaced by a larger grandstand, which continued to be referred to as the Stars Stand by the supporters.
The Stars Stand was extended in 1909 with new turnstiles and barricades erected in preparation for the FA Cup quarter-final game against reigning Football League champions Manchester United.In 1913, the Burnley directors decided to demolish the Stars Stand for a second time and opted instead to expand the uncovered embankment.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:34 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:07 pm
I stood on the Longside before it was covered. I think the original covering of the Longside would have been in the early 50"s
!954, mdd2, at a cost of £20,000.....Three years later floodlights followed.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by exilecanada » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:40 pm

To the best of my knowledge the only time I saw a game from the enclosure was a cup tie vs Everton, February '62, won 3-1. Down 0-1 at half time, Miller equalised shortly after the restart with a bomb from outside the box. I think Connelly and Robson scored the others. No idea why I remember the details so vividly, can't remember what I had for dinner yesterday :lol:
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:55 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:40 pm
To the best of my knowledge the only time I saw a game from the enclosure was a cup tie vs Everton, February '62, won 3-1. Down 0-1 at half time, Miller equalised shortly after the restart with a bomb from outside the box. I think Connelly and Robson scored the others. No idea why I remember the details so vividly, can't remember what I had for dinner yesterday :lol:
Brian did into the Cricket Field end. Was a real cracker

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Walton » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:43 pm

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I've always loved this picture
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:06 pm

Walton wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:43 pm
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I've always loved this picture
So, is that a League game against Arsenal in '66/'67, Walton ?

And Freddie Smith scoring his only ever goal for us ?

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Walton wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:43 pm
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I've always loved this picture
Superb photo.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:35 pm

Claretforever wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:45 pm
Are you referring to the section behind Bob Lord in this picture?
When I first went on I sat on the turnstile, bottom left, whilst my Dad stood behind the rail immediately behind the walkway. Worked perfect for both of us.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:40 pm

Walton wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:43 pm
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I've always loved this picture
Ref in a shocking position. He’s offside.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:17 pm

Is that ref related to Chris Wood?

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by mikeS » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:38 am

In the early 60s, Bob Lord was planning a 17,000 seater stand covering the combined Brunshaw Road and Bee Hole end. Burnley Council had also given planning permission to erect a cantilever stand along Brunshaw Road.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by tally » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:51 am

Just love the text on this photo, "When teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona come to Burnley-- and they will do soon enough-we shall have something to show them- in more ways than one ! "
Brilliant

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by NewClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:03 am

tally wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:51 am
Just love the text on this photo, "When teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona come to Burnley-- and they will do soon enough-we shall have something to show them- in more ways than one ! "
Brilliant
How times have changed in terms of ambition with the ground and who might be visiting!

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by tally » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:20 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:03 am
How times have changed in terms of ambition with the ground and who might be visiting!
Yes agreed but one can only live in hope and who knowsl ooking back in those days Chelsea were then a non event.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by CleggHall » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:44 am

When I first went to TM in 1959 and stood on the Longside everything seemed to be painted green and, apart from an odd scarf and rattle, there was little claret and blue on display except on the players’ shirts. Fences, turnstiles, railings and stands were all green, had Bob Lord got a job lot of green paint somewhere?
Excellent photo of Bob by the way on this thread.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by lancastrian » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:57 am

exilecanada wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:40 pm
To the best of my knowledge the only time I saw a game from the enclosure was a cup tie vs Everton, February '62, won 3-1. Down 0-1 at half time, Miller equalised shortly after the restart with a bomb from outside the box. I think Connelly and Robson scored the others. No idea why I remember the details so vividly, can't remember what I had for dinner yesterday :lol:
Likewise, that was my only time in the Enclosure and my future Father In Law paid. Could never afford it as it was always dearer than other standing parts of the ground. I seem to remember that in a newspaper article, Jimmy McIlroy described the Miller goal as "Dusty hits them and God guides them" or words to that effect.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by houseboy » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:00 am

basil6345789 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:01 pm
Th' Enclosure
Cheers bud. I was racking my brains trying to remember what it was known as. Proper football grounds.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by CaptainKirk » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:30 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:24 pm
This was the last time most of the Bob Lorders actually stood up !
Not sure what you mean?
Oh, I get it. It’s because they are all old!
Ha ha, that is sooo funny!
They were bouncing up and down the Longside (look it up) when the Cricket Field **** heads were sucking on a different bottle and filling their nappies.
Now, where’s me walking stick?
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:52 am

exilecanada wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:40 pm
To the best of my knowledge the only time I saw a game from the enclosure was a cup tie vs Everton, February '62, won 3-1. Down 0-1 at half time, Miller equalised shortly after the restart with a bomb from outside the box. I think Connelly and Robson scored the others. No idea why I remember the details so vividly, can't remember what I had for dinner yesterday :lol:
As I mentioned already I attended the 6th round FA Cup tie at home to Blackburn two years earlier still.aged only 7. Imagine my shock and disappointment when two years later and ' a big boy' now my mum said there was no way I was going to the game v Everton. Their fans had a very bad reputation at the time and so I spent that afternoon at home trying to find out what was happening at Turf Moor from the very limited sources available there were then.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by JohnDearyMe » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:21 am

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:25 pm
My one big regret is not knowing my very first game on the Turf.
How much have you been able to narrow it down Royboyclaret?

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Petersa » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:37 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:52 am
As I mentioned already I attended the 6th round FA Cup tie at home to Blackburn two years earlier still.aged only 7. Imagine my shock and disappointment when two years later and ' a big boy' now my mum said there was no way I was going to the game v Everton. Their fans had a very bad reputation at the time and so I spent that afternoon at home trying to find out what was happening at Turf Moor from the very limited sources available there were then.
My first first team match was the week before the cuptie also against Everton. As an 8yo I was also not allowed to go for the same reason as you SS. Not surprised really as the Cricket Field End in the league match became a mass punch up in the second half the likes of which I've never seen since. Police leave was cancelled for the cuptie and I seem to remember there wasn't much trouble. I think the cup gate was 54000 the last time there was over 50000 at Turf Moor. I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames if I'm wrong :roll:

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by sjb » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:23 pm

Petersa wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:37 pm
My first first team match was the week before the cuptie also against Everton. As an 8yo I was also not allowed to go for the same reason as you SS. Not surprised really as the Cricket Field End in the league match became a mass punch up in the second half the likes of which I've never seen since. Police leave was cancelled for the cuptie and I seem to remember there wasn't much trouble. I think the cup gate was 54000 the last time there was over 50000 at Turf Moor. I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames if I'm wrong :roll:
I'm afraid your memory is playing tricks. We did play Everton in the league the previous week but that was at Goodison and was a 2-2 draw. 14000 Everton fans came to the Turf for the FA Cup tie and the police reported no trouble.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:53 pm

Petersa wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:37 pm
My first first team match was the week before the cuptie also against Everton. As an 8yo I was also not allowed to go for the same reason as you SS. Not surprised really as the Cricket Field End in the league match became a mass punch up in the second half the likes of which I've never seen since. Police leave was cancelled for the cuptie and I seem to remember there wasn't much trouble. I think the cup gate was 54000 the last time there was over 50000 at Turf Moor. I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames if I'm wrong :roll:
Attendance for cup tie was just over 50,500 and as already posted, the league game the week before was at Goodison.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:59 pm

lancastrian wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:57 am
Likewise, that was my only time in the Enclosure and my future Father In Law paid. Could never afford it as it was always dearer than other standing parts of the ground. I seem to remember that in a newspaper article, Jimmy McIlroy described the Miller goal as "Dusty hits them and God guides them" or words to that effect.
Father in law? That's had me puzzled all day. How old were you?

Can you explain please?

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:02 pm

sjb wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:23 pm
I'm afraid your memory is playing tricks. We did play Everton in the league the previous week but that was at Goodison and was a 2-2 draw. 14000 Everton fans came to the Turf for the FA Cup tie and the police reported no trouble.
There's a classic photograph taken from the Beehole End of Everton fans on the roof of the Longside during the FA Cup tie. Precarious to say the least as we are all aware of the tragic event that happened there 30 years later.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by sjb » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:55 pm

I only rarely went in th'enclosure after I started going on the Turf in 1963. Usually stood behind the CF goal with my dad. In fact the only game I definitely recall watching from the enclosure was the FA Youth Cup tie against Yorkshire Amateur in 1967/8, the season we won the trophy. We won 7-1 and I can still remember one of the Yorkshire lads taking a throw in from right in front of me.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by lancastrian » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:36 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:59 pm
Father in law? That's had me puzzled all day. How old were you?

Can you explain please?
I was 24 years old. I will let you do the Maths.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Claret1205 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:59 pm

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Everton fans on the roof at the Cup tie in February 1962.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:31 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:21 am
How much have you been able to narrow it down Royboyclaret?
Apologies for delay in responding JohnDearyMe.

That equaliser by Parsons for Chelsea in Jan'56 is the first vivid memory.......Perhaps a league game earlier that season, or even the season before that.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Cajun » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:36 pm

Some good old pix on here, not seen the one of the model before. Recall going in the BrunshawcRoad stand twice in the late 60s with my dad - maybe he got comps as he hated sitting down. Remember being on front row level with Beehole 18 yard line, one vs WBA maybe a 5-1 win and the other vs B'Pool when they had Tony Waiters in goal. Maybe my imagination but seem to think seats were padded - or then again maybe dad took a cushion along 😁

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:45 pm

Used to love the ground threads when people put their own designs on, some comical but some serious.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by basil6345789 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:01 pm

sjb wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:55 pm
I only rarely went in th'enclosure after I started going on the Turf in 1963. Usually stood behind the CF goal with my dad. In fact the only game I definitely recall watching from the enclosure was the FA Youth Cup tie against Yorkshire Amateur in 1967/8, the season we won the trophy. We won 7-1 and I can still remember one of the Yorkshire lads taking a throw in from right in front of me.
We used to call it 't Covered End

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Loyal Supporter » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:26 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:24 pm
This was the last time most of the Bob Lorders actually stood up !
At what age should supporters stop going on the Turf. My dad goes in the Bob Lord. Missed around 10 games in 40 years pandemic excepting, and people like you disrespect them. It says a hell of a lot about you mate.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:34 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:24 pm
This was the last time most of the Bob Lorders actually stood up !

Yes, let's mock the disabled.
What other groups do you mock?
Deaf, blind or black for example.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Jamesy » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:54 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:12 pm
Most of the people who go in the BL are not safe to stand at the best of times! Think of all the tartan travel blankets stacked up at the rear of the safe standing area....
We don’t need to stand thank you. We pay a little bit more to sit in comfort. We are better protected from the elements and most importantly, away from the riff raff that think it’s hilarious to take the p!ss out of Bob Lorders.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:18 am

lancastrian wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:36 pm
I was 24 years old. I will let you do the Maths.
:D My mistake, I thought we were talking about the terracing at the front of the long side that was sectioned off for younger fans, so that they could see the game easier. At 24 years old, obviously you weren't. 😃

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:20 am

Loyal Supporter wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:26 pm
At what age should supporters stop going on the Turf. My dad goes in the Bob Lord. Missed around 10 games in 40 years pandemic excepting, and people like you disrespect them. It says a hell of a lot about you mate.
Get a grip sweet cheeks , and perhaps a sense of humour at the same time , the comment was a bit of flippant nonsense .

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:59 am

2 Bee Holed wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:34 pm
Yes, let's mock the disabled.
What other groups do you mock?
Deaf, blind or black for example.
Ah , so a bit of an obviously nonsense comment re” oldies in the BL” ( a long running mild joke on the forum ) is now “ mocking the disabled “ and allusions to racism etc .You should of thought the latter ones through really , though I won’t take offence . Enjoy your hobnobs .

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:03 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:59 am
Ah , so a bit of an obviously nonsense comment re” oldies in the BL” ( a long running mild joke on the forum ) is now “ mocking the disabled “ and allusions to racism etc .You should of thought the latter ones through really , though I won’t take offence . Enjoy your hobnobs .
I assume your hobnobs comment is also "an obviously nonsense comment"?
There are a lot of things I'd like you to explain and clarify, but on second thoughts,
I've heard what you have had to say. I note your comments and I move on.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:32 pm

Walton wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:43 pm
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I've always loved this picture
Wow, TrickyTrevor......that must be Gordon Harris and Willie Morgan in the foreground ??.....Some photo, that.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:31 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:32 pm
Wow, TrickyTrevor......that must be Gordon Harris and Willie Morgan in the foreground ??.....Some photo, that.
Is that Ralphy, nearest their 6 yard box ?

Where's TT when you need him.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:51 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:31 pm
Is that Ralphy, nearest their 6 yard box ?

Where's TT when you need him.
I’ve got Willie Morgan for the 7, Ralphy on 6yd line, Andy Lochheads’ shiny pate at the edge of the pen area, Bomber Harris taken the corner. Which would leave Willie Irvine at the far side of area. It looks like a 9 but can’t be.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:56 pm

Mis-print in last post.What I thought was a 7 is actually a sleeveless arm.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:56 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:51 pm
I’ve got Willie Morgan for the 7, Ralphy on 6yd line, Andy Lochheads’ shiny pate at the edge of the pen area, Bomber Harris taken the corner. Which would leave Willie Irvine at the far side of area. It looks like a 9 but can’t be.
Why can't it be ?

I've got Freddie Smith on the edge of the box, scoring our only goal.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:58 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:56 pm
Why can't it be ?

I've got Freddie Smith on the edge of the box, scoring our only goal.
I’ll bow to your superior knowledge. I don’t even know the game, guessing it’s Arsenal from the strip.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:02 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:58 pm
I’ll bow to your superior knowledge. I don’t even know the game, guessing it’s Arsenal from the strip.
Defo Arsenal, '66/'67.....We never got started.

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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:02 pm

Can’t see a goal there Royboy.
Spot has found the ball and the group of players beneath it are shaping for a header.
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Re: Bob Lord Terracing?

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:07 pm

Trust me TT, Freddie scores our goal at the Cricket Field End......his one and only goal for us in 84 appearances.

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