RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

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RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:55 pm

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Matt Donohue (Manchester) v Huddersfield Town

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A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25


Please only Rate the Ref if you attended the game and only do so, after the game has ended. Thank you

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:49 pm

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:08 pm

High marks considering he cut the game about 6 minutes short.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by buzzclarets79 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:20 pm

How on earth 4 mins of added time?! Should have been double that.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:43 pm

Just to note, a referee is told nowadays, how many minutes to add on. He doesn’t make that call.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:45 pm

I thought generally he had a good game in an easy game to referee, but it's points off for four added minutes I'm afraid.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Rowls » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:45 pm

Poor on a number of factors but especially in “suspending” several basic rules of the game out sympathy for the side getting thrashed.

Yellow cards were all warranted and overall he did the necessary in a game that was over early in the first half.

Would like to know if he has GCSE maths given his calculations for additional time.

Overall, not bad.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:45 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:43 pm
Just to note, a referee is told nowadays, how many minutes to add on. He doesn’t make that call.
Really? Never knew that, very odd.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:47 pm

He was excellent aside from the added time.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:50 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:43 pm
Just to note, a referee is told nowadays, how many minutes to add on. He doesn’t make that call.
So the referee isn't in charge of the game then?

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by NRC » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:45 pm
I thought generally he had a good game in an easy game to referee, but it's points off for four added minutes I'm afraid.

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You cant dock him points if he’s not responsible for timekeeping…. According to Robbo…… but beyond that reffed the game well, albeit with very little to do as we just kept the game flowing with our possession

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Rowls » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:54 pm

Just thought I’d mention the blatant penalty on Zaroury in the 2nd half for people to consider.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:55 pm

NRC wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:52 pm
You cant dock him points if he’s not responsible for timekeeping…. According to Robbo…… but beyond that reffed the game well, albeit with very little to do as we just kept the game flowing with our possession
As far as I know, he carries his watch and then discusses it with the 4th official. If both managers agree with the 4th official, injury time can be cut short by mutual consent, too.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Robbie_painter » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:58 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:55 pm
As far as I know, he carries his watch and then discusses it with the 4th official. If both managers agree with the 4th official, injury time can be cut short by mutual consent, too.
Think you might be wrong on this one Robbo

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:59 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:55 pm
As far as I know, he carries his watch and then discusses it with the 4th official. If both managers agree with the 4th official, injury time can be cut short by mutual consent, too.
If that’s true it’s ridiculous. Why should the managers have any input into the duration of a game, a decision which could have an impact on other teams in the division.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Rowls » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:01 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:55 pm
As far as I know, he carries his watch and then discusses it with the 4th official. If both managers agree with the 4th official, injury time can be cut short by mutual consent, too.
Bizarre if true. Two managers are allowed to effectively conspire the scoreline of a game?

I can believe it might be true but if it is then it’s a great example of muddled thinking.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:17 pm

NRC wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:52 pm
You cant dock him points if he’s not responsible for timekeeping…. According to Robbo…… but beyond that reffed the game well, albeit with very little to do as we just kept the game flowing with our possession
He is responsible for timekeeping

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:20 pm

I may well be wrong. Sure I heard a top official on a podcast once say that. Still, it’s the beauty of the feature…people can agree and disagree. If he has made a bad decision (A) fir time keeping, I certainly don’t think any more than a couple of points should be deducted.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:22 pm

I can vote today.
The easiest first game possible.
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20. Ian Maatsen was down for more than 4 minutes plus all the substitutions. He might have felt sorry for them but that doesn’t make it right.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by what_no_pies » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:28 pm

Failing to give a yellow card for the drag back on Zaroury on 90 minutes was just abandoning the rules because the game was over. That's totally unacceptable from any ref.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Hipper » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:32 pm

The FA Law 5 says:

The referee ...... acts as timekeeper, keeps a record of the match and provides the appropriate authorities with a match report, including information on disciplinary action and any other incidents that occurred before, during or after the match

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-go ... he-referee

Law 7 says:

3. Allowance for time lost

Allowance is made by the referee in each half for all playing time lost in that half through:
substitutions
assessment and/or removal of injured players
wasting time
disciplinary sanctions
medical stoppages permitted by competition rules e.g. ‘drinks’ breaks (which should not exceed one minute) and ‘cooling’ breaks (ninety seconds to three minutes)
delays relating to VAR 'checks' and 'reviews'
any other cause, including any significant delay to a restart (e.g. goal celebrations)
The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the referee at the end of the final minute of each half. The additional time may be increased by the referee but not reduced.


https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-go ... -the-match

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Hipper » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:34 pm

... and I found this but it is from 2012:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/20159223

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by MDWat » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:48 pm

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:14 pm

Best ref we have had for a while but ... Injury time was a puzzle ... if I was a Hudds fan would be gutted ...
Hence

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by NRC » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:17 pm
He is responsible for timekeeping
Sort the staff out CT :D (apologies Robbo)

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by Cheshireclaret » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:38 pm

4 minutes added time was outrageous. It does nothing other than blot the referee's copybook, albeit as someone said in a post abive, he certainly appeared to make some decisions that I genuinely don't think he would if Huddersfield weren't losing heavily!

And if the situation whereby Managers can decide when they pack up and go home is true, then what on earth is going on with the game?

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Post by JohnMac » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:52 pm

I don't do this one but thought it needed a mention today, he was excellent!

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Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:47 pm

I watch lots of games on TV and referees add very little time on at the end.
Recent Newcastle game Pope was warned for time wasting and then booked and he still did not speed up. There were 6 second half substitutions and 2 goals scored and referee added 4 minutes. It could have been argued 10
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The second half had 8 substitutions one goal and the phisio on 3 times - he added 5 minutes

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:45 am

It was an easy day for the ref, the scoreline and non competitive game helped him with not giving a few decisions.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Matt Donohue v Huddersfield Town

Post by ClaretLoup » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:01 am

Thought he should have given a penalty for a two handed push on Zaroury on the penalty area bye line in the second half. Also a Town player did not just obstruct a quick free kick being taken he kicked the ball away from the spot where it was due to be taken. Should have been a yellow. Obstructing free kicks being taken is a pet hate of mine and it is now commonplace.

Otherwise thought the ref had a really good game including finishing the game five minutes early. It’s not going to effect the outcome of the game, reduces the risk of injury and fatigue plus we can all get home a bit earlier. I can’t see what people are complaining about.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:04 am

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Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:11 am

Sorry posted that before finishing my comment

I think the confusion is around the “fourth official indicates the minimum time”.

This is still decided by the onfield ref

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Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:02 am

Easy game to referee with no controversial decisions so you have to ask why he decided to make an idiot of himself by adding on just 4 minutes.

These guys really don't help themselves.
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Post by Beagleheart » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:07 am

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:21 am

ClaretLoup wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:01 am
Thought he should have given a penalty for a two handed push on Zaroury on the penalty area bye line in the second half. Also a Town player did not just obstruct a quick free kick being taken he kicked the ball away from the spot where it was due to be taken. Should have been a yellow. Obstructing free kicks being taken is a pet hate of mine and it is now commonplace.

Otherwise thought the ref had a really good game including finishing the game five minutes early. It’s not going to effect the outcome of the game, reduces the risk of injury and fatigue plus we can all get home a bit earlier. I can’t see what people are complaining about.

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Not sure about you but I don’t go to the football to get home earlier.
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Post by Stproc » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:56 pm

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Decent ref generally, missed a few bits but one of the better ones this season.

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