Turf Moor of old

[Leisure]

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[Silkyskills1]

Think this was the game where we were 0-1 down then Frank Casper got sent off for thumping Francis Burns. Down to 10 men and we went on to win the game.

[Tricky Trevor]

I mentioned that goal in the recent George Best thread. I actually thought he was a lot nearer the goalline than the photo shows.

[sjb]

This photo and game were discussed on a Turf photos thread very recently. Somebody posted a pic of Frank walking off & asked if he was being subbed or sent off. I confirmed his dismissal for taking a swing at Burns. Andy Lochhead had to go off after colliding with a post but we still came back to win.

[sjb]

I mentioned that goal in the recent George Best thread. I actually thought he was a lot nearer the goalline than the photo shows.

The goal came about because of a bad error by Colin Waldron who left Harry Thomson exposed with a very short back pass.

[yTib]

bloody brilliant!

[Quicknick]

Great to see a packed old Turf Moor. I'd forgotten about this match.

[LordBob]

Think this was the game where we were 0-1 down then Frank Casper got sent off for thumping Francis Burns. Down to 10 men and we went on to win the game.
[/was only talking about this game at the weekend Francis Burns had been hacking Frank all of the game so Frank jabbed him as Burns was just getting up off the ground, the ref had to chase Frank who had already trotted up to the tunnel. I think O'Neill and young Martin Dobson scored.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Blimey, a Brian O'Neil and Martin Dobson midfield.

[Quicknick]

Blimey, a Brian O'Neil and Martin Dobson midfield.

Or was Dobson still a striker at that time?

[Silkyskills1]

Or was Dobson still a striker at that time?

Think it was the start of the next season he played in midfield. A number of injuries led to us introducing some players from the successful youth team v West Ham at home and a very good League Cup run followed ending with the semi defeat at the Hawthorns v Swindon.
Man Utd. did have a forward line that day that included Best, Law, Charlton and Kidd.

[Steve1956]

I wonder if this little fella posts on here.

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Some great pictures appearing online ,who's the player in the background...Alex Elder maybe?

[Quicknick]

I wonder if this little fella posts on here.
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Some great pictures appearing online ,who's the player in the background...Alex Elder maybe?

I don't think it's Elder.

[sjb]

Looks like Les Latcham to me

[sjb]

I wonder if this little fella posts on here.
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Some great pictures appearing online ,who's the player in the background...Alex Elder maybe?

I think the lad's name was Paul Lonsdale. He was mascot for about 3 seasons in the 1960s. He went on to be an accountant.

[steve1264b]

Is it denis law?

My eyesight failing me!

[HahaYeah]

What an iconic photo.

Denis Law.

No badge on the Man U kit,similar white shorts and socks as Burnley and no segregation in the crowd.

The state of the pitch.

[Steve1956]

What an iconic photo.

Denis Law.

No badge on the Man U kit,similar white shorts and socks as Burnley and no segregation in the crowd.

The state of the pitch.

Looks like the groundmans had one of those rollers you push along you can see his footprints going across the pitch

[durhamclaret]

Looks like Les Latcham to me

Yup it does

[Mondsley]

Looks like Les Latcham to me

On the Facebook Post a woman says her Dad played in that game for Burnley and "marked George Best". So there's every chance it is Les. Stood on the corner of the Longside and Bee Hole for this game. Clearly remember Dobbo's winner.

[HahaYeah]

Looks like the groundmans had one of those rollers you push along you can see his footprints going across the pitch

I thought they were molehills!

There's barely a blade of grass, just flattened mud and sand.

[sjb]

On the Facebook Post a woman says her Dad played in that game for Burnley and "marked George Best". So there's every chance it is Les. Stood on the corner of the Longside and Bee Hole for this game. Clearly remember Dobbo's winner.

Best gave Les the runaround in the 1st half but once Les got to grips with him we got on top & O'Neil equalised with a worldy before Dobo got the winner.

[Silkyskills1]

Best gave Les the runaround in the 1st half but once Les got to grips with him we got on top & O'Neil equalised with a worldy before Dobo got the winner.

Brian O'Neil scored a 'worldy' seven months later against them at Turf Moor in the last minute to give us a 1-0 win. Just lost 7-0 to Spurs the week before.

[Guitargeorge]

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[Mondsley]

Brian O'Neil scored a 'worldy' seven months later against them at Turf Moor in the last minute to give us a 1-0 win. Just lost 7-0 to Spurs the week before.

Remember that game as well against the European Champions Best, Law, Charlton Kidd etc. After we scored Utd poured down the other end and won a corner which Best put straight behind the goal. Oh how we laughed.....

[sjb]

Brian O'Neil scored a 'worldy' seven months later against them at Turf Moor in the last minute to give us a 1-0 win. Just lost 7-0 to Spurs the week before.

Indeed he did but I think you'll fine the goal he scored in the game being discussed here was pretty special too. In fact Keith McNee described it thus in his match report; '..after a centre from the left by Ralph Coates the ball came to O'Neil, some 25 yards from goal. Bang...a terrific shot past the goalkeeper's left hand and into the net via the woodwork.'

[Tricky Trevor]

Brian O'Neil scored a 'worldy' seven months later against them at Turf Moor in the last minute to give us a 1-0 win. Just lost 7-0 to Spurs the week before.

The first time I ever saw a pyramid of bodies, on top of poor Brian. What a strike that one was.

[Hipper]

The player in the pic looks a bit like Willie Irvine to me.

[Tricky Trevor]

The player in the pic looks a bit like Willie Irvine to me.

He didn’t play that game. He was transferred to PNE the following month.

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[Quicknick]

He didn’t play that game. He was transferred to PNE the following month.
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Rod Jones seemed a good keeper, but barely featured, then only had 19 games in two years at Rochdale. I thought someone said Dobson scored in this match. Was he the substitute?

[Tricky Trevor]

Rod Jones seemed a good keeper, but barely featured, then only had 19 games in two years at Rochdale. I thought someone said Dobson scored in this match. Was he the substitute?

I hadn’t noticed that. I’ll check Clarets Chronicles during HT. Watching Chelsea

[Tricky Trevor]

Rod Jones seemed a good keeper, but barely featured, then only had 19 games in two years at Rochdale. I thought someone said Dobson scored in this match. Was he the substitute?

Yes he was. No idea what minute he came on.

[lewishamclaret]

Some absolutely cracking photos there Guitargeorge- real gems. Never seen them before.

[Jimjan]

Bob Lord must have had turnstiles that didn't register people, when you look at the crowd and then the official attendance. You couldn't get many more in there but the ground officially held over 40,000 and the attendance was 32,000

[Hipper]

He didn’t play that game. He was transferred to PNE the following month.
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Are you talking about the Denis Law/mascot photo? Denis Law is not mentioned on the programme team lists either? Of course there were often late corrections.

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Brilliant, many thanks Guitargeorge

[Tricky Trevor]

Are you talking about the Denis Law/mascot photo? Denis Law is not mentioned on the programme team lists either? Of course there were often late corrections.

Yes. There was chat higher up referring to Alex Elder and Les Latcham, in the background. I thought you were chipping in on that.

[sjb]

Yes he was. No idea what minute he came on.

It was a certainly an action packed 10 minute 2nd half spell - Dobo replaced Lochhead on the hour after Andy collided with a post, 2 minutes later O'Neil equalised and 5 minutes after that Dobo got the winner - just 3 minutes before Casper got sent off leaving us to play the last 20 minutes with 10 men.

[sjb]

Are you talking about the Denis Law/mascot photo? Denis Law is not mentioned on the programme team lists either? Of course there were often late corrections.

Nobby Stiles & Denis Law replaced Fitzpatrick & Herd from the United team listed in the programme - Fitzpatrick was an unused sub.

[Tricky Trevor]

It was a certainly an action packed 10 minute 2nd half spell - Dobo replaced Lochhead on the hour after Andy collided with a post, 2 minutes later O'Neil equalised and 5 minutes after that Dobo got the winner - just 3 minutes before Casper got sent off leaving us to play the last 20 minutes with 10 men.

Cheers. A great memory on you. I remember the goals and the sending off. Didn’t recall Andy and the post at all.

[Royboyclaret]

Bob Lord must have had turnstiles that didn't register people, when you look at the crowd and then the official attendance. You couldn't get many more in there but the ground officially held over 40,000 and the attendance was 32,000

There's always a reason......this time it's because the CF terracing was closed for the final time on the 30.Dec.'67 some seven weeks before this game against Man Utd........on that basis the official attendance of 32,165 seems realistic enough.

As for the player in the background on the Denis Law photo.......Is it Sneckham ?.......Some uncertainty, for me.

[ClaretTony]

Looks like Les Latcham to me

My thoughts too. I saw Les in town a couple of weeks ago. White hair now but he looks to in good shape.

[Royboyclaret]

Worth another mention for that game against Everton in Dec.'67......Was that a special occasion or what ?......the finest experience ever in the CFS that day.

[Royboyclaret]

As was always the case, Everton fans attempted to "move" us onto the Longside, but on this occasion it was never going to happen........Their fans did not take kindly to the final result and the winner from Willie Morgan was just a bit special, on a very special day.

[Royboyclaret]

The remarkable thing about the photo in the OP is that, in terms of the background, it could have been taken in any of the previous three, four, five decades.......Nothing changes, the tapering off of the Bee Hole End and the original Brunshaw Road stand with the Enclosure in front.

Then it all happens......In 1970 the Bee Hole End is extended backwards with a view of increasing capacity, the last game for the Brunshaw Road stand is 23.April'69 against Sunderland and the CF terracing is demolished.

Bob Lord's vision for a new Turf Moor begins to take shape.

[martin_p]

The remarkable thing about the photo in the OP is that, in terms of the background, it could have been taken in any of the previous three, four, five decades.......Nothing changes, the tapering off of the Bee Hole End and the original Brunshaw Road stand with the Enclosure in front.

Then it all happens......In 1970 the Bee Hole End is extended backwards with a view of increasing capacity, the last game for the Brunshaw Road stand is 23.April'69 against Sunderland and the CF terracing is demolished.

Bob Lord's vision for a new Turf Moor begins to take shape.

And this, from 1969, could have been taken yesterday!

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[claret4blue]

He didn’t play that game. He was transferred to PNE the following month.
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Trevor when is this programme from ? According to Clarets Cronicles Jones never played against Utd.

[Tricky Trevor]

Trevor when is this programme from ? According to Clarets Cronicles Jones never played against Utd.

It's my match programme from the 17th Feb ‘68.
Jones played his only game of the season the previous week away to Fulham.
Harry Thomson must have recovered and played this match.

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[martin_p]

Trevor when is this programme from ? According to Clarets Cronicles Jones never played against Utd.

Programmes rarely got the teams spot on. They essentially guessed the line ups based on the last starting eleven (in a day and age where starting elevens only changed due to injury). If Jones played the week before it’d explain his appearance in the United programme.

[claret4blue]

Also in the picture of the op, Best looks like he has red socks on .