ARTICLE: New Home for Our Turf Moor Heroes

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:26 am

Press release from Burnley FC Supporters Groups re: the player boards

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/new-home-f ... oor-heroes

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:29 am

Royal Dyche?

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:32 am

Great news. I does make you wonder if the Chairman has no interest in our history and simply wanted to dispose of those boards.

BFC Supps Groups · Post by **BFC Supps Groups** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:36 am

Firstly, we'd like to thank Tony for publishing our press release this morning and also thank him for all the work he's done on our behalf in finding somewhere for our player boards to go.

We are not in a position as yet to confirm where they are going but will as soon as that's possible.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:37 am

Strange from an American, where they have a history of recognising past heroes.
Even going as far as retiring the players number and stadiums with rings of glory around them.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:40 am

BFC Supps Groups wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:36 am
Firstly, we'd like to thank Tony for publishing our press release this morning and also thank him for all the work he's done on our behalf in finding somewhere for our player boards to go.

We are not in a position as yet to confirm where they are going but will as soon as that's possible.

Really happy to help. Having spent so much time getting them in the first place (and this site being fortunate enough to sponsor Brian Miller), I think it's important that they are retained and on display for supporters.

woody · Post by **woody** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:44 am

We were told "Alan doesn't like them " . That is an unbelievably poor response from our owner. Someone really needs to have a word with him about our history. I'm sure you guys have found a great location for these heroes as it's definately nothing less than they deserve.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:50 am

I was shocked to find out those pictures were taken down as I remember walking up to the Turf remembering most of them when I lived in the UK, I just hope that a proper place was found for them , plus I'm surprised Mr Pace wouldn't want them outside the Turf..

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:52 am

I wonder if our chairman “doesn’t like them” because they aren’t flashy LED based?

I have noticed they do show our past players photo & stats on the LED boards on the longside, so it doesn’t appear like he has an issue with the history of the club.

As for the boards themselves, it is good that they will be featured elsewhere, I just hope it is somewhere that will be seen by supporters, and I include away fans there

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:55 am

Unbelievable that there isn't a place for them around the ground, as was intended.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:42 am

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:52 am
I wonder if our chairman “doesn’t like them” because they aren’t flashy LED based?

I have noticed they do show our past players photo & stats on the LED boards on the longside, so it doesn’t appear like he has an issue with the history of the club.

As for the boards themselves, it is good that they will be featured elsewhere, I just hope it is somewhere that will be seen by supporters, and I include away fans there

I think it is because they are not LED

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:12 pm

Personally I loved them, classy display of our proud history. I'm really glad it sounds like they have got a home even if it will possibly be second best to the walls of Turf Moor.

You can see from a branding and advertising perspective why Pace may not like them though.

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:22 pm

To suggest Pace doesn’t care about the history of the club is frankly pathetic.

As is all these ‘LED’ jibes. The club is moving forward.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:25 pm

helmclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:22 pm
To suggest Pace doesn’t care about the history of the club is frankly pathetic.

As is all these ‘LED’ jibes. The club is moving forward.

There haven’t been any LED jibes. Someone suggested it was the reason he didn’t like them which I believe to be the case.

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:26 pm

Great news.

depechedingle · Post by **depechedingle** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:42 pm

Best news of the day, loved these boards and they were very beautifully done not tacky at all.

Seeing legends pre my birth and through my formative years as a Claret gave me an enormous sense of pride. Perfect before entrance to the ground and the fabulous Times Like These videos.

Immensely proud of what is happening now and our history beforehand.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:55 pm

helmclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:22 pm
To suggest Pace doesn’t care about the history of the club is frankly pathetic.

As is all these ‘LED’ jibes. The club is moving forward.

I wasn’t jibing Pace about the LED boards. I actually don’t mind them and can see what potential they have for the club.

I just think it’s a shame that they have snubbed the supporter groups that put a lot of time effort and money into the boards

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:59 pm

Good news.

I think the traditional looking boards look far better than the LED digital displays, but I can understand why the club wanted to go down the LED route as well.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:03 pm

Maybe Alan should spend a bit more time listening to his customers?

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:03 pm

Good to see they will be returned somewhere and put to use. They were very well done and it would have been a great shame to have not seen them displayed. It will be interesting to see where they go. I had hoped they would be picked up by the Council and used in various prominent positions around the town, I think that might have looked good and really brought the pride of the club to central locations etc. Also interested to see what ALK have planned for Ormerod Yard if that was mentioned. I’m not sure what options there really are there.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:06 pm

I find it hard to believe that those picture boards do not have a clear display, for all, when attending our cathedral.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:06 pm

Fan zone possibly?

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:08 pm

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:06 pm
Fan zone possibly?

Great shout actually. They could probably have just the right amount of space on the walls around the indoor one if spaced well.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:42 am
I think it is because they are not LED

I’m all for some updating and digitalisation but this is ridiculous. Every single thing in or on the ground doesn’t have to be LED. Soon people will be leaving Blackpool illuminations in droves to come and watch the pre match light displays at Turf Moor.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:21 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:03 pm
Maybe Alan should spend a bit more time listening to his customers?

To be fair to him, I have seen him a number of times before games in the fanzone. Engaging with supporters.

Two points;
WTAF is a Director of fan experience?

and well done to all involved, who firstly got these paid for and put in place originally and then for there continued efforts to get them back on display.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:22 pm

I know it’s what is intended but I’ve noticed the LES stuff outside the ground more than I noticed the previous boards. They grab your attention better and are more prominent over a wider viewing area.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:26 pm

it was unlikely that they would find a home for them when they cant even find a home for the Clubs Accounts!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:27 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:22 pm
I know it’s what is intended but I’ve noticed the LES stuff outside the ground more than I noticed the previous boards. They grab your attention better and are more prominent over a wider viewing area.

Surprisingly, I saw none of that when I walked past today.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:32 pm

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:21 pm

Two points;
WTAF is a Director of fan experience?

He was head of match day operations and then suddenly got this new title. If you saw the highlights of the Wigan game on the ITV programme, he was the bloke sat next to JJ Watt.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:32 pm
He was head of match day operations and then suddenly got this new title. If you saw the highlights of the Wigan game on the ITV programme, he was the bloke sat next to JJ Watt.

Fair enough, thanks Tony.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:59 pm

'Disappointingly, in May 2021, all the images were removed by Burnley Football Club without any consultation or even communication with us but we were reassured by chairman Alan Pace who, in reply to an email, told us: “The boards will be taken down while the painting and upgrading works occur. The plan is to then replace them in their original positions. However, this ongoing work may be over the course of several months.”'

He hs just changed his mind, or was he lying back then I wonder?

Whitgord · Post by **Whitgord** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:09 pm

I hope they have been stored somewhere safe and dry.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:15 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:37 am
Strange from an American, where they have a history of recognising past heroes.
Even going as far as retiring the players number and stadiums with rings of glory around them.

this^^^^ I don't get it either

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:21 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:55 am
Unbelievable that there isn't a place for them around the ground, as was intended.

Is there not? Do you know where they are going?

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:27 pm
Surprisingly, I saw none of that when I walked past today.

Guess you're alluding to the club not using all the LEDs on non-matchdays? That's an obvious disadvantage where previously local or occasionally visitors could see our heroes.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:34 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:21 pm
Is there not? Do you know where they are going?

So, are they going around the ground where they were intended to go then?

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 pm

Could look good situated around the newley renovated culvert area maybe

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:53 pm

beddie wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:32 am
Great news. I does make you wonder if the Chairman has no interest in our history and simply wanted to dispose of those boards.

It doesn't make me wonder that. He just doesn't like them.

I think i'm disappointed with the way he's gone about firstly stating that they'd be going back up when clearly there was no intention of doing so, and then failing to communicate whatsoever with those who put so much time and effort into having them made and installed.

I've been quite open minded about Mr Pace and what he's been trying to do here, but this looks like a balls-up to me. Thank God it's only a small balls-up though.

Delighted we will see them again, and very excited to learn where they will be.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:20 pm

Another here that thinks the new location will be the fanzone.

The best of a bad job in my opinion.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:23 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:20 pm
Another here that thinks the new location will be the fanzone.

The best of a bad job in my opinion.

Fanzone would make them only accessible on matchdays and that would go against BFCSG’s firm belief of having them on display 365 days a year for everyone to enjoy. Can’t see it myself.

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:13 pm

I really like them - I realise that I am in a minority on here or at least it begin to feel like it but the club becomes something more than just football but a real bridge to the past to connect people in your life and not - with us and gone: parents, relatives, teenage away day friends and so on and so forth.

Whether it be those who were great like Taffy or 'kind of great' like Ray Deacon I felt it gave colour, a sense of history and belonging to Turf Moor.

It must be my age...

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:27 pm

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:21 pm
To be fair to him, I have seen him a number of times before games in the fanzone. Engaging with supporters.

Two points;
WTAF is a Director of fan experience?

and well done to all involved, who firstly got these paid for and put in place originally and then for there continued efforts to get them back on display.

He’s in the fan zone talking and listening to fans before most home games from what I’ve seen.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:14 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:34 pm
So, are they going around the ground where they were intended to go then?

I don't know, and it hasn't been made public where they are going, so I was intrigued that somebody seemed to know

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:19 pm

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:41 pm
I’m all for some updating and digitalisation but this is ridiculous. Every single thing in or on the ground doesn’t have to be LED. Soon people will be leaving Blackpool illuminations in droves to come and watch the pre match light displays at Turf Moor.

the club makes money from the LEDS

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:42 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:19 pm
the club makes money from the LEDS

Our history should be more important than just making money from LED's!

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:04 am

Leisure wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:42 pm
Our history should be more important than just making money from LED's!

Our history is all above everything else, including making money.

Do you hear that Alan ?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:12 am

Leisure wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:42 pm
Our history should be more important than just making money from LED's!

yeah but history doesn't sign Beyer, that's the reality of football in this era. I agree with you wholeheartedly but it's just not how footy clubs are run

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:18 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:12 am
yeah but history doesn't sign Beyer, that's the reality of football in this era. I agree with you wholeheartedly but it's just not how footy clubs are run

Maybe the reality, Vegas, but for those of us walking up Harry Potts Way, that's all that matters.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:25 am

I like progress and everything, and a lot of the traditionalist arguments around a whole bunch of things sometimes aren't strong enough for me, but on this one, imagine taking down all the religious iconography and sticking up McDonalds boards inside St Peter's Basilica or the Sistine chapel under the pretext of generating more revenue. Player boards have a similar sort of function, even if they aren't necessarily works of art as such.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:12 am

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:18 am
Maybe the reality, Vegas, but for those of us walking up Harry Potts Way, that's all that matters.

yep, it's why I agreed. It's a bit grim of the club not to put them back up