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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:31 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:03 pm
Has Palmer on loan from City been confirmed yet ?
Palmer would be direct competition for Zaroury which makes little sense when we have cm and strikers as more needy areas for upgrades

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Post by taio » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:35 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:31 pm
Palmer would be direct competition for Zaroury which makes little sense when we have cm and strikers as more needy areas for upgrades
He doesn't normally play in Zaroury's position

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Post by Nori1958 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:38 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:35 pm
He doesn't normally play in Zaroury's position
He has when I've seen him play, but I've only seen him about 3 times

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:38 pm

City want to send Palmer out on loan to play at a high level and with the Kompany connection I immediately thought of him coming to us for next season.

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Post by taio » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:45 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:38 pm
He has when I've seen him play, but I've only seen him about 3 times
When I've seen him play it's been centrally or from the right although I've also seen him play from the left. So he's versatile.

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Post by Nori1958 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:48 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:45 pm
When I've seen him play it's been centrally or from the right although I've also seen him play from the left. So he's versatile.
He played left wing when I saw him....looked ok, but maybe not one to use up a loan spot

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Post by Pickles » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:51 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:31 pm
Palmer would be direct competition for Zaroury which makes little sense when we have cm and strikers as more needy areas for upgrades
Wide left is a position we absolutely do need to bolster. After Zaroury there's no-one.

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Post by clarets12 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:52 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:48 pm
He played left wing when I saw him....looked ok, but maybe not one to use up a loan spot
On the left whenever I've seen him too but quite sure he'd be class for us left right or centre.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:55 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:17 pm
How do you know that I am?
Am I male or female?
That's the point of anonymity
I don't care what gender you are, you are on my foe list and you don't seem to get it

The idea that I jump on your posts when I don't see 99% of them is more than a little bizarre

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Post by taio » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:56 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:48 pm
He played left wing when I saw him....looked ok, but maybe not one to use up a loan spot
I'd definitely take him on loan if he was an option. As we say he can play more than one position

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:57 pm

I think if he was offered the chance to come and play for Burnley he'd grab it. It would mean more opportunities to experience playing in the PL with the additional bonus of learning from one of Man City's best ever players who wants his players to be versatile in a passing style of play.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:58 pm

Reports suggest Palmer is keen on a move overseas with RB Leipzig interested.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:58 pm

Anyway, the Georgian lad sounds interesting

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:02 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:58 pm
Reports suggest Palmer is keen on a move overseas with RB Leipzig interested.
When he thinks about it he'll realise that Turf Moor is the only place to be for him next season

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:18 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:02 pm
When he thinks about it he'll realise that Turf Moor is the only place to be for him next season
I think Leeds are interested as well but we should have the upper hand if he's ready for a go at top level, plus VK obvious connection.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:22 pm

Even allowing for Zaroury, we absolutely need another option or starter for that left wing position.

Zaroury had spells last where he lost form, and it will be important next year that we don't have to flog him in the way we had to play McNeil through some rotten form which didn't do anyone any favours in the end. Zaroury is also off to the AFCON next season.

I hope those links we had with Jack Clarke a couple of weeks ago come true.
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Post by Nori1958 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:23 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:55 pm
I don't care what gender you are, you are on my foe list and you don't seem to get it

The idea that I jump on your posts when I don't see 99% of them is more than a little bizarre
Your words not mine.........

can't believe you've got the hang of how it works by now

I'll see your name replying to one of my posts, with the message

"Nori1958, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post"

I doubt it will be worth looking at, which is why you are on my ignore list, but if it was a post in a conversation about something interesting (ie not a list of saddos having a go at me) then I'd look at it because you do make some good points when you aren't being weird

I hope that helps

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:24 pm

I'd have thought if City wanted him to go out to the likes of Leeds in the Championship they wouldn't have made the point that they want Cole to experience football at the top level next season.
I know nothing has been confirmed yet but I'm going to sit back and await his arrival through our gates pretty soon

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:31 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:24 pm
I'd have thought if City wanted him to go out to the likes of Leeds in the Championship they wouldn't have made the point that they want Cole to experience football at the top level next season.
I know nothing has been confirmed yet but I'm going to sit back and await his arrival through our gates pretty soon
I'm referring to this article
https://www.leedsunited.news/news/manch ... t-to-move/
The logic being he wouldn't necessarily be starting as many games but for them he would.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:36 pm

Would have thought City would have needed to keep palmer around for their home grown quota, especially for champs league, you have to have 4 players trained at the club between age of 18-21

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:57 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:31 pm
I'm referring to this article
https://www.leedsunited.news/news/manch ... t-to-move/
The logic being he wouldn't necessarily be starting as many games but for them he would.
It is a fact that Leeds gave up their right to be the top level side that City want to loan Palmer out to when they were relegated. Of course they will continue to think they are but the reality is that they are a club in disarray. They are not for Palmer.

Going to Germany is a bigger threat because of the success of a couple of other young English talented players but Palmer will realise that going abroad is too big a risk now.

Palmer will get sufficient time on the field with us to justify moving here and anyone in any doubt just needs to think about the commentary next season' Palmer threads the ball through to Twine running into space, Twine slots it past the goalkeeper'

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Post by ClaretAL » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:00 pm

Ok so just gone through the last 2 pages, so to stop anyone having to read some of the ******** I have just read, basically still the status quo with nothing new that’s concrete yet.👍

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:07 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:00 pm
Ok so just gone through the last 2 pages, so to stop anyone having to read some of the ******** I have just read, basically still the status quo with nothing new that’s concrete yet.👍
You're so helpful AL

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:19 pm

SirBob wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:45 pm
I get the impression Obafemi is a very short term investment. We got him on the cheap in the end. I think he’ll be a squad player in the coming season, maybe bag a couple of goals before being loaned out next season in the championship and sold of for a tidy little profit. He looks like he could be a very successful championship player to me at least.

Not starting for ROI (behind Idah and Ferguson) last night, not a good sign?

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Post by Pearcey » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:25 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:19 pm
Not starting for ROI (behind Idah and Ferguson) last night, not a good sign?
I’d put that down to him hardly playing last season more than a reflection of his abilities.
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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:30 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:25 pm
I’d put that down to him hardly playing last season more than a reflection of his abilities.
Very likely. He does need to get some games under his belt.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:40 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:19 pm
Not starting for ROI (behind Idah and Ferguson) last night, not a good sign?
Ferguson just had a breakout season at Brighton, he’s played his way into the 11 and has been playing prem football, but being behind Idah isn’t a good sign no
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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:40 pm
Ferguson just had a breakout season at Brighton, he’s played his way into the 11 and has been playing prem football, but being behind Idah isn’t a good sign no
Yes, Ferguson has been impressive.
I just hope Obafemi can get up to speed really. Not playing full games, BFC or ROI, isn't going to help him.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:44 pm

In other news Georges Mikautadze has scored for Georgia against Cyprus

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:45 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:19 pm
Not starting for ROI (behind Idah and Ferguson) last night, not a good sign?
Tough to say. Ferguson looks like he could be a real star to be fair. You’d expect him to be getting game time ahead of Idah, but the Irish manager is hardly covering himself in glory at the moment.

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:50 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:44 pm
In other news Georges Mikautadze has scored for Georgia against Cyprus
Good goal as well. I pray we sign him!

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Post by Duffer_ » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:07 pm

Encouraging that we expressed interest in Verbruggen, Tresor and Mikautadze last season. Promotion has improved our chances of signing them but the player valuations are now probably £10m a pop higher than last season. Be interesting to see if we sign any of them, or if VK has another batch of targets for PL football.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:14 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:50 pm
Good goal as well. I pray we sign him!
Aye just seen, not just the finish but being alert on the press to capitalise on the mistake

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:02 pm

Sacha saying Tresor is VKs top target

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Post by Guich » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:13 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:58 pm
Anyway, the Georgian lad sounds interesting
My contact in France says the French press are saying this will happen ;)
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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:20 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:02 pm
Sacha saying Tresor is VKs top target
You got a link?

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:20 pm
You got a link?
Ignore, sorry, just seen it on the other thread:

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... FemmQ&s=19

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:46 am

We won’t pay the 15m Saints want for Tella according to Nixon today.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22729304 ... fer-value/

Perhaps we feel that we can get better value for 15m elsewhere.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:28 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:46 am
We won’t pay the 15m Saints want for Tella according to Nixon today.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22729304 ... fer-value/

Perhaps we feel that we can get better value for 15m elsewhere.
As soon as the season finished Tella was one player I just couldn’t see us getting.

He was very good for us but ultimately his record didn’t quite breach the “genuine premier league quality” bracket. Like you say Perhaps VK is thinking he can get Tresor and another for a similar fee. Not sure if Nixon is right on the fee either, seen numerous outlets say they want 20 at least.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:30 am

Another from Nixon today is that we will move for Antwerp’s French keeper Jean Butez if we miss out on Verbruggen.

Meanwhile Simon Jones in the Mail has added to the Lokonga rumour that we want him on loan.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -loan.html

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:31 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:30 am
Another from Nixon today is that we will move for Antwerp’s French keeper Jean Butez if we miss out on Verbruggen.

Meanwhile Simon Jones in the Mail has added to the Lokonga rumour that we want him on loan.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -loan.html
I honestly think Lokonga will be our signing of the year if we can somehow manage it.

He’s exactly what we need
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:03 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:28 am
As soon as the season finished Tella was one player I just couldn’t see us getting.

He was very good for us but ultimately his record didn’t quite breach the “genuine premier league quality” bracket. Like you say Perhaps VK is thinking he can get Tresor and another for a similar fee. Not sure if Nixon is right on the fee either, seen numerous outlets say they want 20 at least.
How does our top scorer not fit the ‘genuine premier league quality’ bracket? I hope we win the first few games to quieten you down again like the most of last season.

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:04 am

15 million is a fair price for Tella.

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Post by jedi_master » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:08 am

£15m for Tella is good value - surprised we are not all over that. He’s 23 and has ridiculous pace that would be transferable a level higher, can play across the front line and is already loved by fans. No guarantee in any signing but that feels a perfectly reasonable price.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:10 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:03 am
How does our top scorer not fit the ‘genuine premier league quality’ bracket? I hope we win the first few games to quieten you down again like the most of last season.
I’ve been very positive recently. No idea what you’re on about.

Tella had a very good season but I don’t think he landed in that category of player that’s definitely premier league quality. Without being too critical if you take away the two games where he scored 5 goals against bottom of the league teams then his stats were 12 goals in 37 games (it doesn’t exactly scream Premier league talent).

I would love to sign him but I agree with RV I think VK is probably thinking there is better around for that kind of money.
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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:14 am

Agree Tella is less of a risk than, say a player from Fr Ligue 2?

As Champ is a similar standard one would assume (bit higher?), but removes the change of country dynamic / knows team mates. Valuable unknowns to remove.

I think £13m plus add ons if we stay up to bring to £15m / £16m around right.

Let's see, hopefully we are playing the game here.

UTC.

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Post by taio » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:17 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:10 am
I’ve been very positive recently. No idea what you’re on about.

Tella had a very good season but I don’t think he landed in that category of player that’s definitely premier league quality. Without being too critical if you take away the two games where he scored 5 goals against bottom of the league teams then his stats were 12 goals in 37 games (it doesn’t exactly scream Premier league talent).

I would love to sign him but I agree with RV I think VK is probably thinking there is better around for that kind of money.
Always hard to tell which players can step up to the PL but looking at Tella's season on its own merits it's hard to see how you concluded that. You refer to his goal scoring stats without realising he wasn't an out and out striker.

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Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:18 am

Tella is essential- just buy him

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Post by jedi_master » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:18 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:10 am
I’ve been very positive recently. No idea what you’re on about.

Tella had a very good season but I don’t think he landed in that category of player that’s definitely premier league quality. Without being too critical if you take away the two games where he scored 5 goals against bottom of the league teams then his stats were 12 goals in 37 games (it doesn’t exactly scream Premier league talent).

I would love to sign him but I agree with RV I think VK is probably thinking there is better around for that kind of money.
He did a lot more than score goals. His off the ball movement, stretching of defences with his pace and infectious enthusiasm were key to our promotion. If we think we can get better for £15m then I will be very excited as to who that player is. I’ve not seen a link to a single player who (highlights reel examples as my only evidence) has anything close to the speed Tella has, and that is going to be key for an out ball/channel ball a level higher.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by claretandy » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:20 am

I'd be surprised if he was available for a low as 15m, more like that plus add ons.

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