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Tbf any player a club like Burnley signs for £15mil or above there’s risk attached to it, whether it’s tella or a lad from Belgium league or French second division, tellas goals last season have valued him that high but I think £15mil is high, £10mil would be a good fee with maybe add ons for getting to a certain goal tally in prem and if he plays an international game
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Whilst he wasn’t an out and out striker, he was also the most advanced player on the pitch (centrally for Burnley) on average across the season. He also had the most shots per game. Then from a creative point of view he ranked roughly 8th in our team. I appreciate stats are about perspective but I think it shows that goals were the most important part of his game this season.
I am not sure he will offer of a similar level of threat in the prem.
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Why are people allowed to use Tella’s goals/ assists level from the Championship as evidence he’s a good player and may well cut it in the Premier League, yet when I use the same stats to prove Foster is pony they get dismissed?
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The only thing with tella is I think he’s the perfect player on the right hand side when benson isn’t fully fit, have tellas pace occupying a left back for 60-70 minutes then bring benson on for that bit of magicNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:23 amWhilst he wasn’t an out and out striker, he was also the most advanced player on the pitch (centrally for Burnley) on average across the season. He also had the most shots per game. Then from a creative point of view he ranked roughly 8th in our team. I appreciate stats are about perspective but I think it shows that goals were the most important part of his game this season.
I am not sure he will offer of a similar level of threat in the prem.
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I agree, I would love to sign him.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:25 amThe only thing with tella is I think he’s the perfect player on the right hand side when benson isn’t fully fit, have tellas pace occupying a left back for 60-70 minutes then bring benson on for that bit of magic
Just not sure for that money he’s worth it
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Nixon’s article states that Southampton were demoted from the Premier League for the first time since 2004/05.
It’s clever wording considering they spent 5 seasons outside the top flight in that time.
As for Tella, we should be all over him if the £15m fee is correct.
It’s clever wording considering they spent 5 seasons outside the top flight in that time.
As for Tella, we should be all over him if the £15m fee is correct.
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Not sure if it’s just rumour but I read Man Utd enquire about Pickford.
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10mil with add ons and id say that’s a good deal, anymore and you are starting to over pay.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:29 amI agree, I would love to sign him.
Just not sure for that money he’s worth it
Looks like we might have to over pay to land our number 1 keeper choice, we don’t want it with tella too. We already over paid for foster too
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He wouldn't offer the same threat in the PL but that's stating the obvious. You infer having most shots per game was a negative thing or are you making a different point?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:23 amWhilst he wasn’t an out and out striker, he was also the most advanced player on the pitch (centrally for Burnley) on average across the season. He also had the most shots per game. Then from a creative point of view he ranked roughly 8th in our team. I appreciate stats are about perspective but I think it shows that goals were the most important part of his game this season.
I am not sure he will offer of a similar level of threat in the prem.
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No I am highlighting that his shots, goals scoring etc… were the main aspect of his role this year.
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I agree I think around 10 is about right to123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:31 am10mil with add ons and id say that’s a good deal, anymore and you are starting to over pay.
Looks like we might have to over pay to land our number 1 keeper choice, we don’t want it with tella too. We already over paid for foster too
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The fact that Soton have put a number out there is encouraging. Tella's pressing would be a huge asset in the PL.
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Am I the only one that thinks we need a bit of Premier experience? Up to now we seem to be going for young players that we don't know can step up. Southampton had a lot of young players last season and look what happened.
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You’ve got to remember that this was Nathan’s first real season playing regularly, where he was also intricate to the team he was playing in.
He scored plenty and caused chaos along the way with his pace. His work rate is fantastic and the press was very good. I think he will only get better with us and to rotate him across the front line with whoever else we may add to Benson, Zaroury and co will be essential.
I suspect we will play on the counter attack more often this year and somebody with the pace that Tella possess will be absolutely vital to that.
Also wouldn’t need a settling in period which helps the cohesion of the side from the off
He scored plenty and caused chaos along the way with his pace. His work rate is fantastic and the press was very good. I think he will only get better with us and to rotate him across the front line with whoever else we may add to Benson, Zaroury and co will be essential.
I suspect we will play on the counter attack more often this year and somebody with the pace that Tella possess will be absolutely vital to that.
Also wouldn’t need a settling in period which helps the cohesion of the side from the off
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We can’t sign any overseas players until the international transfer window opens on 1st July.
This is the market that VK is more interested in imo but time will tell.
So hopefully BFC media will be showing us a few of their creative video signings early July.
This is the market that VK is more interested in imo but time will tell.
So hopefully BFC media will be showing us a few of their creative video signings early July.
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As an observer, I would suggest that Tella statistics are throughout the season, whereas, Foster arrived in January, from different league and had to acclimatise to the whole lifestyle as well as the team play. He only got bit parts, which showed he was not there yet. Late on, he made a much greater impact, which showed a lot of promise.StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:25 amWhy are people allowed to use Tella’s goals/ assists level from the Championship as evidence he’s a good player and may well cut it in the Premier League, yet when I use the same stats to prove Foster is pony they get dismissed?
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I’ve said before Tella has a very high ceiling. It’s rare to find a player that age with pace to burn, a superb touch and finishing ability.
The aspects of his game he needs to work on can be taught. He will only get better with experience.
He seems an extremely lively character. Hopefully that’s only a good thing but perhaps the coaching staff have seen something that could be questioned? Merely speculating, but we know the importance both Vinny and Dyche before him place on attitude.
If he doesn’t sign, we will need to get his replacement signing spot on because his role was vital to the side. Of course we could get better for less, but it’s naive to think it’s that easy.
The aspects of his game he needs to work on can be taught. He will only get better with experience.
He seems an extremely lively character. Hopefully that’s only a good thing but perhaps the coaching staff have seen something that could be questioned? Merely speculating, but we know the importance both Vinny and Dyche before him place on attitude.
If he doesn’t sign, we will need to get his replacement signing spot on because his role was vital to the side. Of course we could get better for less, but it’s naive to think it’s that easy.
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We are a good negotiating position regards Tella
As mentioned above he doesn't need a bedding in period so we don't need to rush through a deal
In the meantime we can pursue other targets like Tresor
Not aware of any other clubs interested in Tella so the fact that there appears to be some discussion with Southampton is positive
As mentioned above he doesn't need a bedding in period so we don't need to rush through a deal
In the meantime we can pursue other targets like Tresor
Not aware of any other clubs interested in Tella so the fact that there appears to be some discussion with Southampton is positive
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Another one here who thinks that we should be all over Tella at that price
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I disagree but I think he’s a good player. I think we can get better for the fee quoted elsewhere
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Didn’t know that, thanks for sharing. I’ll just have to be patient until July thenIt Is What It Is wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:52 amWe can’t sign any overseas players until the international transfer window opens on 1st July.
This is the market that VK is more interested in imo but time will tell.
So hopefully BFC media will be showing us a few of their creative video signings early July.
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Coventry fans want McNally for £2m. They wanted stupid money for the lad last year but only want to pay £2m for a player. Funny how fans of clubs see things when it comes to buying and selling players. I think all fans are the same. How much would we, as fans, want for Tella if we were the selling club?
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£15m for Tella is very reasonable. I was bothered that Saints would price us out of a deal by quoting £20-25m so they could keep him for the Championship next season.
£15m in 2023 for someone with his attributes and at his age; yes please. I'm sure a deal could be negotiated (possibly even for a tad less than £15m) but it would be daft not to go for him at this price. He is a known quantity with a point to prove.
£15m in 2023 for someone with his attributes and at his age; yes please. I'm sure a deal could be negotiated (possibly even for a tad less than £15m) but it would be daft not to go for him at this price. He is a known quantity with a point to prove.
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Might also be simple case of saints wanting 15mil up front for tella but we only want to pay 10mil or less up front
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If you believed all the stats in life you would not get out of bed in the morning. Tella for us last year was a revelation and I am convinced the vast majority of our supporters feel the same . When he was not scoring he was stretching defences or winning penalties, and a number of his goals were fantastically taken. We will be defending extensively next season and to have someone like him who can break from the half way line and not get caught will be something we have not previously enjoyed in the Prem. We need to get Weghorst sold and use this to help fund this sale. At the end of the day we need to trust the club that they are paying a fair price, and they may well walk away. However we should not use the disappointment of losing him as a way of attempting to justify he is not a Prem player
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We could do with Southampton maybe taking an interest in McNally around about now and use him as a make weight in a deal for Tella.
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You can arrange deals with players and clubs, wages etc now but you cannot put pen to paper and sign overseas players until 1st July.
So back to being patient and no, it's not nonsense.
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Tella for a total of 15M, absolutely get it done.
Tella for 15M and add on's, clauses, etc I can see why we might drag our heels.
Could see it being done on deadline day, as it might depend who we bring in and ship out, and indeed what Southampton do. For instance they might find a few targets and use the Tella offer to fund them.
Got a feeling this might run most of the summer TBH
Tella for 15M and add on's, clauses, etc I can see why we might drag our heels.
Could see it being done on deadline day, as it might depend who we bring in and ship out, and indeed what Southampton do. For instance they might find a few targets and use the Tella offer to fund them.
Got a feeling this might run most of the summer TBH
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His first touch is absolutely incredible, with either foot.PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:55 amI’ve said before Tella has a very high ceiling. It’s rare to find a player that age with pace to burn, a superb touch and finishing ability.
The aspects of his game he needs to work on can be taught. He will only get better with experience.
He seems an extremely lively character. Hopefully that’s only a good thing but perhaps the coaching staff have seen something that could be questioned? Merely speculating, but we know the importance both Vinny and Dyche before him place on attitude.
If he doesn’t sign, we will need to get his replacement signing spot on because his role was vital to the side. Of course we could get better for less, but it’s naive to think it’s that easy.
As good as anything I’ve seen from one of our players.
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Here's the link
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... sky-sports
So..if you want to argue your point...tell Sky Sports that they are talking nonsense as well.
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From what I have seen the current recruitment team at Burnley are better at buying than selling. Agree with you £2m bid for McNally is absurd. I think we paid circa £5m-£6m for Charlie Taylor 5 years ago. For me McNally is worth closer to £5m than £2m. If we hold off we could get further interest for him as he was in the shop window at Cov for 5 months and by all accounts played very wellCommy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:29 amCoventry fans want McNally for £2m. They wanted stupid money for the lad last year but only want to pay £2m for a player. Funny how fans of clubs see things when it comes to buying and selling players. I think all fans are the same. How much would we, as fans, want for Tella if we were the selling club?
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Nixon says that we "are unlikely to pay that much to sign him" Not that we won't or aren't prepared to. It's just his opinion. Might all change when VK is back from Portugal.
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Wow, did I just read somebody say that Tella only got 12 goals last season if you remove five of his goals?
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Deals can be done and announced with a view to the player ‘officially joining on July 1st’. Chelsea have just agreed a 35m deal for Nicolas Jackson which looks like going through this week.It Is What It Is wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:51 amYou can arrange deals with players and clubs, wages etc now but you cannot put pen to paper and sign overseas players until 1st July.
So back to being patient and no, it's not nonsense.
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£15 million would be very reasonable compared to some other Championship signings.
2017 - Chris Wood £15 million
2017 - Britt Assombalonga £15 million
2018 - Adama Traoré £18 million
2019 - Che Adams £15 million
2019 - Oli McBurnie £17 million
2019 - Neal Maupay £20 million
2020 - Jarrod Bowen £22 million
2020 - Ollie Watkins £33 million
2017 - Chris Wood £15 million
2017 - Britt Assombalonga £15 million
2018 - Adama Traoré £18 million
2019 - Che Adams £15 million
2019 - Oli McBurnie £17 million
2019 - Neal Maupay £20 million
2020 - Jarrod Bowen £22 million
2020 - Ollie Watkins £33 million
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Exactly what I said in my previous posts. You cannot officially sign an overseas player until 1st July.RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:58 amDeals can be done and announced with a view to the player ‘officially joining on July 1st’. Chelsea have just agreed a 35m deal for Nicolas Jackson which looks like going through this week.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 88509.html
Your apology is accepted.
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Hard to argue with that when you look at fees, still think £10mil with add ons is a good deal for both teamsnorthernpowerhouse wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:04 am£15 million would be very reasonable compared to some other Championship signings.
2017 - Chris Wood £15 million
2017 - Britt Assombalonga £15 million
2018 - Adama Traoré £18 million
2019 - Che Adams £15 million
2019 - Oli McBurnie £17 million
2019 - Neal Maupay £20 million
2020 - Jarrod Bowen £22 million
2020 - Ollie Watkins £33 million
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If I was Southampton manager I would be looking at Tella and Adams and thinking this could be 30 plus goals (Tella got 17 last season) in the championship. That is a massive step towards play offs minimum so you can't blame them for playing hard ball.
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I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, however on this flip side of the argument he has nearly 40 premier league appearances to his name and he has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in an established premier league team.warksclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:47 amIf you believed all the stats in life you would not get out of bed in the morning. Tella for us last year was a revelation and I am convinced the vast majority of our supporters feel the same . When he was not scoring he was stretching defences or winning penalties, and a number of his goals were fantastically taken. We will be defending extensively next season and to have someone like him who can break from the half way line and not get caught will be something we have not previously enjoyed in the Prem. We need to get Weghorst sold and use this to help fund this sale. At the end of the day we need to trust the club that they are paying a fair price, and they may well walk away. However we should not use the disappointment of losing him as a way of attempting to justify he is not a Prem player
Currently it’s a fair assumption to say he isn’t a prem player. That may very well change this season if we purchase him and he performs as well as he did last season.
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It may be harder to convince Tella and Adams that it’s a good idea.kenyon6923 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:13 amIf I was Southampton manager I would be looking at Tella and Adams and thinking this could be 30 plus goals (Tella got 17 last season) in the championship. That is a massive step towards play offs minimum so you can't blame them for playing hard ball.
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I think £15m for Tella is reasonable, given our current status and the impact he's had on/in the team. Is it no1 priority? We also need to strengthen midfield and left back positions first imo and if your in the PL, nothing comes cheap.
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It’s a long time since we had 20 goals from midfield ,I would’ve very interested in seeing the names you are thinking about in the same price bracket? By the way I don’t think anyone with potential is worth that much but it’s the going rate unfortunately ridiculous.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:12 amI disagree but I think he’s a good player. I think we can get better for the fee quoted elsewhere
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Saints spent circa £140m Euros in 2022/23 and brought in a number of forwards last year in that big group of players and barely sold anyone to offset this. THey will be relying largely on these players to get them back up. To them Tella is probably a fringe player, as he was there for a while , who had a great season with us, but possibly not likely to replicate it with them. I suspect he could feature in pre season games, but may well get little game time throughout the season. Surprised therefore if they are hanging out for crazy money
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This. And considering fees only rise in value 15m is a snip.northernpowerhouse wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:04 am£15 million would be very reasonable compared to some other Championship signings.
2017 - Chris Wood £15 million
2017 - Britt Assombalonga £15 million
2018 - Adama Traoré £18 million
2019 - Che Adams £15 million
2019 - Oli McBurnie £17 million
2019 - Neal Maupay £20 million
2020 - Jarrod Bowen £22 million
2020 - Ollie Watkins £33 million
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15 for Tella is a no brainer
Get him signed to a 4-5 year deal
Great lad, runs his ******** off, great touch and finish not to mentioned being loved by the fans
Get it done
Get him signed to a 4-5 year deal
Great lad, runs his ******** off, great touch and finish not to mentioned being loved by the fans
Get it done
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I think it’s also worth remembering that this £15m figure could have been released by either side for one final push in negotiations . Either from us to lower it. Or them to entice a new bidder or to bluff that someone has now come in higher than us due to them knowing the asking price etc.
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Tella has always had questionable finishing. If that has now changed, which I feel it has, either with games or with Bellamy’s influence, it could be a good price.
He is a bit excitable, had a few dodgy looking exchanges with fans and opponents like that 3-0 finger gesture, but as long as he doesn’t get unpleasant and stays the right side of the line I’m fine with that.
He is a bit excitable, had a few dodgy looking exchanges with fans and opponents like that 3-0 finger gesture, but as long as he doesn’t get unpleasant and stays the right side of the line I’m fine with that.
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I thought his finishing was pretty good last seasonCrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:11 pmTella has always had questionable finishing. If that has now changed, which I feel it has, either with games or with Bellamy’s influence, it could be a good price.
He is a bit excitable, had a few dodgy looking exchanges with fans and opponents like that 3-0 finger gesture, but as long as he doesn’t get unpleasant and stays the right side of the line I’m fine with that.