Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Nori1958]

We hadn't of proven keepers in our sights and end up with a totally raw younger than young, keeper....for the Premier league?????

Which proven keepers?

[eastcoastclaret]

So raw that he's kicking off for England Under 21s in ten minutes and he hasn't conceded a single goal in the tournament yet.

Give the new Claret some backing please.

Let's hope he doesn't read this site before putting pen to paper. He might well decide not to bother.

[Gordaleman]

Let's hope he doesn't read this site before putting pen to paper. He might well decide not to bother.

Thankfully, he's busy just now.

[Gordaleman]

Talk sport commentator just said that he's been "Mightily impressed" with this 6' 6" monster.

[Commy]

Ramsdale had played on loan in Div 1 and 2 before he started in the Premier League for Bournemouth at 21.

[Burtonwoodclaret]

Friends who are Bolton fans say , he was the player of the season last year and they wouldn’t have made the playoffs without him.

[Steddyman]

What are people watching the U21 matches on?

[Gordaleman]

UEFA TV

[miele-man]

Friends who are Bolton fans say , he was the player of the season last year and they wouldn’t have made the playoffs without him.

Some great players in that England team , Smith -Rowe , we need to get him

[jojomk1]

Ramsdale had played on loan in Div 1 and 2 before he started in the Premier League for Bournemouth at 21.

And was initially signed by Bournemouth, aged 19, for less than £1m
Three years later, aged 22, Sheff Utd bought him back for £18.5m
12 months later Arsenal bought him for £24m
There could well be a profit to be made there if he can adapt

[gandhisflipflop]

And was initially signed by Bournemouth, aged 19, for less than £1m
Three years later, aged 22, Sheff Utd bought him back for £18.5m
12 months later Arsenal bought him for £24m
There could well be a profit to be made there if he can adapt

I thought Arsenal spent 50m on him

[bfcmik]

What's the opposite of happy clappers, unhappy flappers?

Miserable gits or sad people of a familial status similar to our horse bothering friends down the M65

[Quicknick]

We hadn't of proven keepers in our sights and end up with a totally raw younger than young, keeper....for the Premier league?????

Gerry Peyton. Remember him, Ian?

[warksclaret]

Gerry Peyton. Remember him, Ian?

......or even Peter Mellor

[jojomk1]

I thought Arsenal spent 50m on him

Wiki states £24m
Transfermarkt states 28m euros

[elwaclaret]

The best keepers I’ve seen for Burnley came with very little top level history. If Manchester City are insisting on a buy back, to me they are doing that for very good reason.

I remember signing a ‘top established keeper’, his name was Roger Hansbury with bags of top flight experience with Norwich.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I thought Arsenal spent 50m on him

No it was 23-24m

[Vegas Claret]

Celta Vigo after Vranckx according to Sacha T

[dermotdermot]

Weghorst is going back to Turkey apparently. They want to buy but he hasn’t made a decision yet. Please go Wout. You just don’t fit in in the UK.

[Commy]

They want him as backup. I can't see him liking that.

[Quicknick]

Celta Vigo after Vranckx according to Sacha T

Surely he'd prefer us to Celta Vigo if he really does like the idea of the EPL better.

[Vegas Claret]

Surely he'd prefer us to Celta Vigo if he really does like the idea of the EPL better.

the bigger issue is Sacha saying Celta could outbid us

[davideyresleftear]

Some great players in that England team , Smith -Rowe , we need to get him

I’d love him but I’m sure Villa or someone offered £30 odd million last season and got knocked back. Arsenal want to hold on to him

[LongsideClaret]

Surprised that we haven’t gone for Ryan Manning on a free, if honest

Yes that would be a smart move.

[Grimsdale]

Yes that would be a smart move.

Is this a hint regarding your earlier comment about a Maatsen replacement?

[123EasyasBFC]

the bigger issue is Sacha saying Celta could outbid us

Celta have been rumoured to be selling their young midfielder m, viega I think he’s called for around 40mil so that will probably be where their money is coming from

[BleedingClaret]

We hadn't of proven keepers in our sights and end up with a totally raw younger than young, keeper....for the Premier league?????

Yes seems nearly as daft a Dortmund paying £25 mil or so for a lad called Jude Bellingham at a similar stage of his career and what became of him do you know?
I’m hoping you we’re playing devils advocate mate

[superdimitri]

It is a bit concerning Trafford hasn't even had Championship experience yet.
Man City fans also think it's a great sale for them.
It's a lot of risk, but in Vincent we trust.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Yes seems nearly as daft a Dortmund paying £25 mil or so for a lad called Jude Bellingham at a similar stage of his career and what became of him do you know?
I’m hoping you we’re playing devils advocate mate

I do get your point, but playing devils advocate Bellingham wasn’t potentially the ninth most expensive signing in history for his position.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I do get your point, but playing devils advocate Bellingham wasn’t potentially the ninth most expensive signing in history for his position.

We aren't really gonna use this stat to hammer home a negative are we ?

Who cares if he is the 9th or 59th.

One stat I would guarantee regarding Trafford is, if we didn't sign him and went down yet the team who did sign him stayed up the same people trying to find a negative would be very quick to accuse the club of trying to do things on the cheap

[Newcastleclaret93]

We aren't really gonna use this stat to hammer home a negative are we ?

Who cares if he is the 9th or 59th.

One stat I would guarantee regarding Trafford is, if we didn't sign him and went down yet the team who did sign him stayed up the same people trying to find a negative would be very quick to accuse the club of trying to do things on the cheap

It’s not a negative, I think he will be a great signing that we will at least break even on (if relegated) similar to what happened with Sheffield.

I am merely highlighting the comparison to Bellingham isn’t really a fair one.

[Goobs]

What's the opposite of happy clappers, unhappy flappers?

If you have an unhappy flopper there is a little blue pill you can get for that

[AGENT_CLARET]

Yes seems nearly as daft a Dortmund paying £25 mil or so for a lad called Jude Bellingham at a similar stage of his career and what became of him do you know?
I’m hoping you we’re playing devils advocate mate

At 19m it's a HUGE risk, I really hope we strengthen the area's that's needed

[RicardoMontalban]

Has it not been established that if we end up paying the full £19m then the transfer has been a success?

As someone further up said we need to maybe consider the figure as £14m, which is still not insignificant, but clearly the manager and his team see something in the lad that’s worth it.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Has it not been established that if we end up paying the full £19m then the transfer has been a success?

As someone further up said we need to maybe consider the figure as £14m, which is still not insignificant, but clearly the manager and his team see something in the lad that’s worth it.

Where is the fun in that when wanting to be negative about him.

[Woodleyclaret]

We are building a team for success in the Premier league. A keeper of great potential snd talent is a steal at £15m as is THB and Nathan Tella
All three have the skills to become top players and are very good investments.

[RicardoMontalban]

Where is the fun in that when wanting to be negative about him.

Performative pant-wetting.

[daveisaclaret]

Has it not been established that if we end up paying the full £19m then the transfer has been a success?

Has anyone confirmed that the £5m in clauses are based on player success rather than team success?

[RicardoMontalban]

Has anyone confirmed that the £5m in clauses are based on player success rather than team success?

maybe they’re are not mutually exclusive?

[daveisaclaret]

maybe they’re are not mutually exclusive?

If the answer is no, that's ok. It just means it hasn't been established that if he costs us £19m it's a good signing.

I think it looks a great signing personally but you don't need to just make things up to respond to people moaning.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Has anyone confirmed that the £5m in clauses are based on player success rather than team success?

Read somewhere it was 1m for catching the ball, 1m for staying up, 1m if he plays for England, 1m if we win the League and 1m if we win the Champs League

Better not end up costing 19m

[Big Vinny K]

Of course it’s a risk but surely VK thinks it’s less of a risk or else he would not be happy to pay this much. It’s got to be the case with almost all players we sign that the higher we are prepared to pay the more that VK believes it will be a success.
Does not mean it’s guaranteed but based on his track record so far VK has plenty of credit in the bank.

Funny how many of the posters who are concerned about it are quoting £19m instead of £14m.

[martin_p]

If the answer is no, that's ok. It just means it hasn't been established that if he costs us £19m it's a good signing.

I think it looks a great signing personally but you don't need to just make things up to respond to people moaning.

It hasn’t been established he’ll cost any specific sum yet, it’s all paper talk.

[RicardoMontalban]

If the answer is no, that's ok. It just means it hasn't been established that if he costs us £19m it's a good signing.

I think it looks a great signing personally but you don't need to just make things up to respond to people moaning.

The logic that if the player hits all the performance related milestones (whatever they are) it isn’t in some way beneficial for us is, I think, a bit of a stretch.

I wasn’t aware I was making anything up.

[daveisaclaret]

The logic that if the player hits all the performance related milestones (whatever they are) it isn’t in some way beneficial for us is, I think, a bit of a stretch.

I wasn’t aware I was making anything up.

But it's just made up that they are performance related milestones. They could be team related milestones.

[RicardoMontalban]

But it's just made up that they are performance related milestones. They could be team related milestones.

I fear we’re getting a bit hung up on semantics here.

[Tricky Trevor]

Has anyone confirmed that the £5m in clauses are based on player success rather than team success?

Team success= another PL season and the riches that follow.
Player success= increase in transfer value, if we wish to sell him.

Re: his age. I’m old enough to remember Leicester City selling the recent, World Cup winning, Gordon Banks to make 17yo Peter Shilton their #1.
Buffon, De Gea, Donnarumma. Age is not a factor if he’s good enough.

[CrosspoolClarets]

There seems to be a trend for £15m to be the asking price for all highly promising but inexperienced youngsters coming from the top academies or teams.

Chelsea’s £25m for Maatsen is a rare exception, that seems OTT. Beyer, THB, Trafford, Tella - all around that £15m figure and no doubt there are many other players like that too. Feels like a loan with an obligation to buy is the best route if we want several, but their clubs will be holding out for a permanent sale first.

[BleedingClaret]

I do get your point, but playing devils advocate Bellingham wasn’t potentially the ninth most expensive signing in history for his position.

True
And I think it’s also fair to say that that Pace has maybe found a way to gamble despite his religious beliefs and with borrowed money

[Lancasterclaret]

I 100% back what is happening, but lets not beat around the bush here, we'd be laughing ourselves silly if another promoted club spent that amount of money on a keeper with no premier league experience and at that age