Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[BleedingClaret]

At 19m it's a HUGE risk, I really hope we strengthen the area's that's needed

Assuming that you mean up top but a dominant centre mid is a requirement to imo

[Nori1958]

At 19m it's a HUGE risk, I really hope we strengthen the area's that's needed

It's not 19m....

[andyh]

I 100% back what is happening, but lets not beat around the bush here, we'd be laughing ourselves silly if another promoted club spent that amount of money on a keeper with no premier league experience and at that age

I seem to remember Middlesbrough fans laughing when we bought Pope. Not sure fans opinions are the best judge of a deal.

[Lancasterclaret]

I seem to remember Middlesbrough fans laughing when we bought Pope. Not sure fans opinions are the best judge of a deal.

Absolutely

They bought a proven La Liga and Spanish international keeper who turned out to be crap, and we bought a complete unknown who turned out to be Englands best shot stopper

I 100% back what we are doing, and it is the only way a club like ours can even hope to compete at this level (by buying and selling at the right time)

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’m not sure why there’s so much animosity.

You can think the lads a good signing whilst thinking we have paid over the odds for him.

I think he will be a great signing. He’s got the pedigree and our manager knows the lad. But I also recognise that it is a really substantial fee for a lad that’s only played at league 1 level.

[kenyon6923]

It proved with Popey its not this 1st contract it's getting the 2nd contract signed or selling the asset at the right time - if the timing is wrong i.e. the player has the power because he has only 12-18 months left no matter how good he is or has become as per popey you have to "give them away" to get any return at all. Once they get to 12 months left you get the tweet "not thinking about my future until the end of the season" then you know there walking away for nothing.

[ervi34]

The best keepers I’ve seen for Burnley came with very little top level history. If Manchester City are insisting on a buy back, to me they are doing that for very good reason.

That's just insurance option for them in case he really impresses with us and becomes one of the best goalkeepers in the league. They insert similar clauses in a lot of their recent deals, in fact, even Muric has one and we all know he will never be good enough to play for City.

[AGENT_CLARET]

It's not 19m....

Splitting hairs

[warksclaret]

Has there ever been such debate over signing a hugely talented footballer. For me I am thinking £3m cost this year, £3m cost next year and so on, and if he turns out to be as good as we hope he will cost us an additional £4m, for probably keeping us in the Prem for 5 years (whats that worth). And if he is exceptional we might even sell him for £30m in a few years

[Nori1958]

Splitting hairs

About 7 million hairs

[AGENT_CLARET]

Assuming that you mean up top but a dominant centre mid is a requirement to imo

Midfield and attack both need strength adding to it

[AGENT_CLARET]

About 7 million hairs

If we were the selling club instead of the buying one we'd be saying we got 19m for him, can't have it both way's, all the media say its a 19m deal

[claretonthecoast1882]

If we were the selling club instead of the buying one we'd be saying we got 19m for him, can't have it both way's, all the media say its a 19m deal

Aren't most saying a deal that could reach 19m.

[RVclaret]

Aren't most saying a deal that could reach 19m.

Yes

[SirBob]

I hope we end up paying the full 19 million, that will mean he’s progressed and meeting his potential. If we only pay the initial 14 millon he’ll never of made those land marks, international appearances etc

[Hedontplayforyou]

I can’t wait for a signing to coke in so we can talk about something else other than Traffords fee

[Boss Hogg]

It’s 19 million ….oh no it isn’t …. oh yes it is. This thread is painful at times.

[AGENT_CLARET]

It’s 19 million ….oh no it isn’t …. oh yes it is. This thread is painful at times.


I think it's called a Discussion

[GetIntoEm]

i hope the deal is already done as i think his value will already go up after we in the u21 final

[andyh]

i hope the deal is already done as i think his value will already go up after we in the u21 final

Highly unlikely he will sign before the final as he has other priorities until after the final whistle blows. But I guess you mean the fee agreed with City… but they can always change that until he signs…

[Boss Hogg]

His value won’t go up unless he gets some PL appearances under his belt or even Championship appearances. We are paying over the odds as it is.

[Firthy]

It's a bit like appointing VK. Unproven manager in English football and look how that turned out

[Ziggy Stardust]

Welcome to BFC James. A club that has helped develop goalkeepers to become England internationals over the last few years. Looking forward to see you play and hopefully develop into another England number 1.

[Darnhill Claret]

Someone will be along in a minute to say that VK is still unproven in the Premier League as a manager. They might as well say it now, as next year it will be too late and wrong.

[IanMcL]

Trafford.
Potential -yes
Today? - unknown
Premier League - huge gamble for a lot of dosh

Posters are using the word 'if' a lot.

I wish him well, however, at 20 he is not yet a keeper.

[Nori1958]

AC Milan....20 mill euros for Benson ?

[mkmel]

Oh ffs any other transfer rumours APART from Trafford?

[KRBFC]

Trafford.
Potential -yes
Today? - unknown
Premier League - huge gamble for a lot of dosh

Posters are using the word 'if' a lot.

I wish him well, however, at 20 he is not yet a keeper.

What do you know about goalkeeping that VK doesn’t?

CT once called you out for criticising Lee Grant for not saving a shot that went wide and you spent all last season telling us all how rubbish Muric was

[Nori1958]

Oh ffs any other transfer rumours APART from Trafford?

Outgoings, yes...right above your post

[IanMcL]

What do you know about goalkeeping that VK doesn’t?

CT once called you out for criticising Lee Grant for not saving a shot that went wide and you spent all last season telling us all how rubbish Muric was

It is an opinion. Potential yes. At 20 a goalkeeper? No. Will get caught out 'too often' in his learning. Could cost us in the prem...like Muric.

Lee Grant?

[Firthy]

AC Milan....20 mill euros for Benson ?

Is that just for his left foot

[ervi34]

AC Milan....20 mill euros for Benson ?

Source is Ekrem Konur, guy who linked us with about 10 players this summer.

[Nori1958]

Source is Ekrem Konur, guy who linked us with about 10 players this summer.

It's a rumour.....

[Ziggy Stardust]

Trafford.
Potential -yes
Today? - unknown
Premier League - huge gamble for a lot of dosh

Posters are using the word 'if' a lot.

I wish him well, however, at 20 he is not yet a keeper.

England U21's are doing great without a keeper!

Roll on the the football season. Players cost more these days. I think you'd all better get used to it!!

[ervi34]

It's a rumour.....

That comes from someone who's not reliable at all. Just take a look at his profile, he generates a rumour like this every 15 minute.

[Nori1958]

That comes from someone who's not reliable at all. Just take a look at his profile, he generates a rumour like this every 15 minute.

Makes better discussion that 50 goalkeeping experts waving their bits about

[NewClaret]

Is that just for his left foot

Right foot I hope. His left is worth way more.

[Chester Perry]

Lots of talk about recruiting goalkeepers on this thread - interesting article from The Athletic today on the same subject - it kicks off on the fact that a significant number of Premier League clubs appear to be in the market for keepers this summer

Feet (not hands), X-rays and seat-belts: How you scout – and train – a goalkeeper
https://archive.is/jcTnk

[ervi34]

Makes better discussion that 50 goalkeeping experts waving their bits about

I can agree with that.

[roperclaret]

It is an opinion. Potential yes. At 20 a goalkeeper? No. Will get caught out 'too often' in his learning. Could cost us in the prem...like Muric.

Lee Grant?

Peter Shilton made his debut for Leicester at 16. Was so impressive they sold Gordon Banks within a year. Would you say he was a Goalkeeper at 20?

[LongsideClaret]

If we were the selling club instead of the buying one we'd be saying we got 19m for him, can't have it both way's, all the media say its a 19m deal

Like many transfers there will be add ons. I don’t know if they are payable if we stay up, if we win the champions league or if he plays for England. I suspect it’s a mix of expected achievements and stretch achievements.

I’ve been told the up guaranteed figure is £12m.

[123EasyasBFC]

Like many transfers there will be add ons. I don’t know if they are payable if we stay up, if we win the champions league or if he plays for England. I suspect it’s a mix of expected achievements and stretch achievements.

I’ve been told the up guaranteed figure is £12m.

I think that guaranteed figure represents good business for a young English talent

[ArmchairDetective]

Haven't seen it posted yet.

Benson linked with a move to Milan. 20m opening bid.

https://twitter.com/Ekremkonur/status/1 ... MGWeA&s=19

[Nori1958]

Haven't seen it posted yet.

Benson linked with a move to Milan. 20m opening bid.

https://twitter.com/Ekremkonur/status/1 ... MGWeA&s=19

Yep it has posted....on this thread

[Vegas Claret]

It is a bit concerning Trafford hasn't even had Championship experience yet.
Man City fans also think it's a great sale for them.
It's a lot of risk, but in Vincent we trust.

I'm not sure he'll start the season tbh, look at the time frame - he's playing at the weekend, then will have a few weeks off you would imagine, we start in about 5 weeks.

[warksclaret]

Yep it has posted....on this thread

If Benson has a great first half of the season in the Prem, then you may be able to double that value of 20m Euros. The Prem gives you that sort of platform ie Caicedoe and Mitomo of Brighton being good examples,

[RVclaret]

Charlie Taylor being considered by Leeds according to their Athletic writer.

[NewClaret]

Charlie Taylor being considered by Leeds according to their Athletic writer.

I was thinking Everton might’ve come in for him. They need a LB. No rumours yet though.

[jojomk1]

I was thinking Everton might’ve come in for him. They need a LB.

So do we
And at this moment Taylor is all we've got

[Woodleyclaret]

Straight swap for Charlie to Leeds and we get Cody Dramah?