Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:49 am

We have learned enough about Vinny to know he does rotate a lot, and knows the PL is mentally and physically draining for young players. So I suspect the concept of first choice is limited to just a few players like Beyer.

If, say, we had Zaroury / Redmond on the left, and Benson / Palmer on the right, I’d be very content with those four and wouldn’t care who starts.

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:52 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:33 am
I think the idea that Zaroury wasn't still a very good player for the 2nd half of the season is more than a little unfair

He was weaker than in the first half but that's not something unexepected. He is 22 years old, of course his form is going to change from time to time.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:56 am

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:25 am
Which Zaroury?
The one who was magnificent for the first half of the season, or the one who looked tired and short of confidence (for the most part) in the last quarter of the season?

Zaroury was double marked after the world cup because teams identified him as a threat.
His form dipped too but he was still brilliant.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:59 am

I thought Zaroury was strong all season. However his end product seemed to drop in the second half of the season. It was almost like he did the hard work but then his cross or shot let him down.

Probably tiredness after a hard season

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:01 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:33 am
I think the idea that Zaroury wasn't still a very good player for the 2nd half of the season is more than a little unfair

I didn't say that he wasn't still a good player, but his form dipped late in the season and he lost his "shooting boots", so having someone like Redmond available to come in for a few games to rest him would have been ideal (IMO).

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:05 am

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:25 am
Which Zaroury?
The one who was magnificent for the first half of the season, or the one who looked tired and short of confidence (for the most part) in the last quarter of the season?

Sure he’s rubbish and needs replacing

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:06 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:05 am

Sure he’s rubbish and needs replacing

Did anyone say that or even hint at it?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:10 am

Anass Zaroury is a star,who along with Benny and Nathan Tella transformed us into a stellar team of entertainers

Flying Without Ings · Post by **Flying Without Ings** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:11 am

Is Trafford expected to be announced today?

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:11 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:05 am

Sure he’s rubbish and needs replacing

I have to say I think his assessment is fair

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:15 am

bumba wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:56 am
Zaroury was double marked after the world cup because teams identified him as a threat.
His form dipped too but he was still brilliant.

True to a degree but Benny was double marked and smashed all season
Triple marked at Ewood and Quadruple marked at Bristol City and he did his stuff despite that
Zaroury seemed a little less determined and focussed when he came back from the World Cup, reminded me of Cornet when he came back from ANC
Just an edge missing in both cases

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:15 am

Flying Without Ings wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:11 am
Is Trafford expected to be announced today?

Are we allowed to discuss transfers on this thread?

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:15 am

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:10 am
Anass Zaroury is a star,who along with Benny and Nathan Tella transformed us into a stellar team of entertainers

I think he's one of the players that Kompany alludes to as someone that will go all the way to the top, there's work to be done but he looks to have all the tools

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:16 am

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:06 am
Did anyone say that or even hint at it?

Then what’s your point and what is the relevance mentioning his post WC form? There’s obvious factors why his form could’ve dropped off a little for the second half of the season, Redmond would still be behind him in the pecking order for me. The Championship is a 46 game long physical slog for a new player and he didn’t even get the WC break off.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:24 am

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:15 am
Are we allowed to discuss transfers on this thread?

If only we had some to discuss

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:30 am

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:01 am
I didn't say that he wasn't still a good player, but his form dipped late in the season and he lost his "shooting boots", so having someone like Redmond available to come in for a few games to rest him would have been ideal (IMO).

I thought that he'd dropped initially at first, but then I watched stuff like the goal Benson scores against Rovers, and its a bit of nifty footwork and skill from Zaroury that makes the space for the pass, which is then spread out to Benson and the rest is history

To be honest, he spent too long trying to replicate the stunner at Sunderland but like everyone else in that team, the teams displays were superb (with one or two exceptions) till the end of the season

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:48 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:16 am
Then what’s your point and what is the relevance mentioning his post WC form? There’s obvious factors why his form could’ve dropped off a little for the second half of the season, Redmond would still be behind him in the pecking order for me. The Championship is a 46 game long physical slog for a new player and he didn’t even get the WC break off.

I think that just about everyone understands and agrees with my point - indeed you make it yourself in this post.
Zaroury isn't going to play for 90 minutes plus for all 38 league games (+ Cup Games).
There were many occasions towards the end of last season - "a long physical slog" as you say - when VK would have rested Zaroury or replaced him after say 60 minutes had we had a player of Redmond's ability in the squad.
Why do you think we are linked with several quality right wingers? It's a squad game.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:50 am

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:48 am
I think that just about everyone understands and agrees with my point - indeed you make it yourself in this post.
Zaroury isn't going to play for 90 minutes plus for all 38 league games (+ Cup Games).
There were many occasions towards the end of last season - "a long physical slog" as you say - when VK would have rested Zaroury or replaced him after say 60 minutes had we had a player of Redmond's ability in the squad.
Why do you think we are linked with several quality right wingers? It's a squad game.

I still don’t understand your point, you’re basically agreeing with my initial post where I said “Redmond would be a good addition, provide good backup for Anass and allow us to spend elsewhere”?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:54 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:50 am
I still don’t understand your point, you’re basically agreeing with my initial post where I said “Redmond would be a good addition, provide good backup for Anass and allow us to spend elsewhere”?

That's exactly my point, so what don't you understand?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:59 am

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:54 am
That's exactly my point, so what don't you understand?

I didn’t understand your initial response to my post when we agree fully, zero disagreement. Anyway all is good

It Is What It Is · Post by **It Is What It Is** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:07 pm

non

Flying Without Ings wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:11 am
Is Trafford expected to be announced today?

He'll probably be already playing for us before the club announce it.!!
Talk about playing cards close to your chest....not a bad tactic at all really. What will be will be

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:08 pm

Please Burnley announce a signing FFS

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:15 pm

"Journalist James McNicholas has suggested that Burnley would rather sign Albert Sambi Lokonga permanently as they do not want to use one of their loan spots on the Arsenal midfielder.

McNicholas was speaking on his YouTube channel as Arsenal now look to move some players on after welcoming a number of marquee signings in the summer transfer window."

Interestingly, Lokonga isn't in the squad for Arsenal's US tour
https://tbrfootball.com/pl-rival-would- ... ournalist/

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:16 pm

Duffer_ wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:15 pm
"Journalist James McNicholas has suggested that Burnley would rather sign Albert Sambi Lokonga permanently as they do not want to use one of their loan spots on the Arsenal midfielder.

McNicholas was speaking on his YouTube channel as Arsenal now look to move some players on after welcoming a number of marquee signings in the summer transfer window."

Interestingly, Lokonga isn't in the squad for Arsenal's US tour

He’s injured

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:17 pm

These threads always follow a similar pattern. Starting off with an air of optimism that the club is planning to conclude a major part of transfer business early to enable a full pre season for new signings, which then turns to a whiff of desperation as the clock ticks down and kick off for the new season approaches.

GetIntoEm · Post by **GetIntoEm** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:26 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:08 pm
Please Burnley announce a signing FFS

cant believe its the 17th of July and people are melting over signings, give it time. will be fine

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:31 pm

Duffer_ wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:15 pm
"Journalist James McNicholas has suggested that Burnley would rather sign Albert Sambi Lokonga permanently as they do not want to use one of their loan spots on the Arsenal midfielder.

McNicholas was speaking on his YouTube channel as Arsenal now look to move some players on after welcoming a number of marquee signings in the summer transfer window."

Interestingly, Lokonga isn't in the squad for Arsenal's US tour
https://tbrfootball.com/pl-rival-would- ... ournalist/

That has already been said about our interest to sign him on that basis four weeks ago. Nothing new there then. Hopefully one of those that’s as good as done and just waiting for the creative video team to think of a reveal video.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:50 pm

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:26 pm
cant believe its the 17th of July and people are melting over signings, give it time. will be fine

I’m not melting at lack of signings, just the tedious nature of this thread at times

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:52 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:17 pm
These threads always follow a similar pattern. Starting off with an air of optimism that the club is planning to conclude a major part of transfer business early to enable a full pre season for new signings, which then turns to a whiff of desperation as the clock ticks down and kick off for the new season approaches.

Last year didn't follow a similar pattern.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:04 pm

75k Twitter chap is saying we’re signing Zeki Amdouni from Basel (striker).

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:05 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:04 pm
75k Twitter chap is saying we’re signing Zeki Amdouni from Basel (striker).

His name is Zach Lowy and he’s followed by Romano.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:07 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:04 pm
75k Twitter chap is saying we’re signing Zeki Amdouni from Basel (striker).

Yes looks a talented lad

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:07 pm

Something's happening with Redmond as well. McGrath who wrote about our interest before just tweeted

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:09 pm

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Cryptic emoji update…..

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:09 pm

Amdouni stats:

22 years old
22 goals for Basel last season
5 caps 5 goals for Swiss international team

Watching the good old Tube he is clearly our alternative to Mikautadze - profile incredibly similar. Looks quality!

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:11 pm

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gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:12 pm

In foot Mercato too

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:14 pm

Santi Aouna has said Burnley have confidence this deal happens

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:17 pm

I’ve noticed that over half of his professional appearances have come as an attacking midfielder. Certainly looks like this is a player to sit in a hole just behind Weghorst

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:18 pm

Amdouni, great football skills, good football brain, quick and direct. Of all the YouTube highlights I've seen relating to possible signings, those rank very highly.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:19 pm

I believe it when I see the announcement video.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:19 pm

Amdouni.

https://insidefutbol.com/2023/07/17/bur ... er/611152/

No mention of a pricetag.

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:21 pm

Nice to see an new name linked. Reminds me of Danny Ings a little, based on his YouTube clips. As someone same above, looks similar to the Georgian lad Mikatautze(sp) we've been linked with. Decent scoring record and a good age.

Andingle · Post by **Andingle** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:22 pm

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And another pushing it.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:23 pm

Yet again an example of how well we can manage to keep things under wraps. He hadn’t been named even once as a link until today and it appears it’s almost done.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:25 pm

Amdouni looks like a number 9 to me. Definitely got the physicality for it.

Looks like Redmond could be on his way too.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:26 pm

This recruitment team is something else.

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:35 pm

According to Wiki he's actually contracted to Lausanne-Sport but on a 2 year loan to Basel (with another year to run). If that's the case we're probably going to have to do what United did and negotiate once to end the loan early and once with his parent club.

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:38 pm

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:35 pm
According to Wiki he's actually contracted to Lausanne-Sport but on a 2 year loan to Basel (with another year to run). If that's the case we're probably going to have to do what United did and negotiate once to end the loan early and once with his parent club.

Scratch that... according to Transfer market, he joined Basel for 4m euros in July so they must have had a buy option in the loan.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:41 pm

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:38 pm
Scratch that... according to Transfer market, he joined Basel for 4m euros in July so they must have had a buy option in the loan.

I was just about to say it looks like they made his loan permanent but only this month. Can't be often a club signs someone and sells him a few weeks later for significant profit. I'm assuming the fee is going to be around 10m euros +, as Lazio and others were rumoured for between 12-15m earlier in the window.