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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:34 pm

Good that we’re adding a bit of height in that area of the pitch then. I notice he’s scored some decent headers as well.

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Post by claret5 » Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:43 pm

Andy Payton was 175cm, just saying

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Post by Socrates » Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:45 pm

claret5 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:43 pm
Andy Payton was 175cm, just saying
How many Premier League goals did he score?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:01 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:21 pm
Trafford, Egan-Riley, Franchi all are 20 so wouldn't hit the age quota.
Al Dakhil is 21 but unless the rules changed it used to be if you're 20 at the start of the calendar year- he was, so would also not hit the limit.
So that puts us on 26. McNally will likely go or be loaned, ditto Thomas. Bastien & Churlinov I've not written off but can see leaving. I'm firmly team 'keep Wout' but not convinced we will. Think it's likely BPF goes, and not impossible that Taylor or Jay leave.

I think realistically our actual number of over 21s, assuming we sign Trafford, Amdouni & Redmond, is at most 24, more likely 21 (McNally, Thomas, BPF leaving). Potentially smaller still. So we'd have room for the CM and LB that we still need.
This is the rule:

Under-21 players are eligible over and above the limit of 25 players per squad.

Each player is assigned a squad number, which they wear during Premier League matches.

For the 2023/24 campaign Under-21 players will have been born on or after 1 January 2002.

That would mean Trafford, Egan Riley and Al-dakhil wouldn’t need to be registered in the 25

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Post by whiffa » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:02 pm

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:45 pm
How many Premier League goals did he score?
Aguero is only 173cm and he scored a bloody lot of them. Height isn't everything, I think is the point.

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Post by BB4Claret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:12 pm

Have the BFC media team come back from their holidays yet?

If things carry on like this, they’ll just be doing one video clip and introducing all the new signings as a five-a-side team. 😉

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:16 pm

Of course height isn’t everything, but we’ve got several smaller players already. Won’t hurt to add some height. From the videos I’ve watched this morning he seems to have that knack of bouncing off defenders which should serve him well as he adapts to a more physical league.

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Post by Rowls » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:17 pm

claret5 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:43 pm
Andy Payton was 175cm, just saying
He might still be for all we know.
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Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:17 pm

matttheclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:53 am
It's possible. Only problem is if it's really late in the window, what do we do with the left back position in the meantime? ...
We're playing Sitay in our opening game, do you really think that our having Maatsen as opposed to Taylor will significantly that result? ... And I thought I was a bloody optimist.

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Post by ClaretAL » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:20 pm

BB4Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:12 pm
Have the BFC media team come back from their holidays yet?

If things carry on like this, they’ll just be doing one video clip and introducing all the new signings as a five-a-side team. 😉
We are planning a full length feature film, but Spielberg keeps insisting on retakes.

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Post by claretandy » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:21 pm

Looking at the youtube videos, I'd say he's 5ft 11.

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Post by dsr » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:22 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:20 pm
We are planning a full length feature film, but Spielberg keeps insisting on retakes.
"You're going to need a bigger reveal video".
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:27 pm

BB4Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:12 pm
Have the BFC media team come back from their holidays yet?

If things carry on like this, they’ll just be doing one video clip and introducing all the new signings as a five-a-side team. 😉
Going to be a series of films

First one is provisionally titled

"Episode IV - A New Hope"
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Post by matttheclaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:30 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:17 pm
We're playing Sitay in our opening game, do you really think that our having Maatsen as opposed to Taylor will significantly that result? ... And I thought I was a bloody optimist.
Nope, don't think it'll impact the result against City at all. My point was more what happens if we put all our eggs in the Maatsen basket and we get to the end of the window and Chelsea still aren't selling. I'm sure we'll have other options though

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Post by Marney&Mee » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:31 pm

Rowls wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:17 pm
He might still be for all we know.
he was a lot less in that wardrobe...
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Post by Socrates » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:50 pm

whiffa wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:02 pm
Aguero is only 173cm and he scored a bloody lot of them. Height isn't everything, I think is the point.
Sure it was. It was an irrelevant example to prove it though.
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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:56 pm

Basing this off nothing more than a hunch and a few anecdotes but I think I’m happier with this lad (Amdouni) than Mikautadze -

Same age but he looks to have a bit more pace and power which always helps in the PL

Not to mention also having been selected for the Swiss national team (who are rather good) having bagged 5 in 5 - clearly highly rated there.

Think we might have a bit of a gem on our hands

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Post by northernpowerhouse » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:09 pm

Amdouni sounds like an exciting player but worth remembering he's coming from a much weaker league straight to the PL which will be difficult. Mohammed Elyonoussi and Albian Ajeti both left Basel for the PL and couldn't cut it.

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:20 pm

northernpowerhouse wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:09 pm
Amdouni sounds like an exciting player but worth remembering he's coming from a much weaker league straight to the PL which will be difficult. Mohammed Elyonoussi and Albian Ajeti both left Basel for the PL and couldn't cut it.
True but didn’t seem to do Salah any harm… (yes I know Mou wasn’t having him at Chelsea on his first stint in the PL)

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:20 pm

claretandy wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:21 pm
Looking at the youtube videos, I'd say he's 5ft 11.
He's 10000000% 6ft 1

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Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:38 pm

Plenty of Hollywood actors/actresses currently available for hire !!!

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Post by swissguy » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:44 pm

northernpowerhouse wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:09 pm
Amdouni sounds like an exciting player but worth remembering he's coming from a much weaker league straight to the PL which will be difficult. Mohammed Elyonoussi and Albian Ajeti both left Basel for the PL and couldn't cut it.
Elyounoussi and Ajeti were both nowhere near as good as Amdouni for Basel.

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Post by LeadBelly » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:46 pm

Rowls wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:17 pm
He might still be for all we know.
Nah- he'll have shrunk a bit now he's 55- probably about half an inch.
I'm average size and have lost about an inch of height over the past 40 years from being in my prime. I think that's pretty much the norm.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:52 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:38 pm
Plenty of Hollywood actors/actresses currently available for hire !!!
I've heard Sean Bean is alright when Saturday comes.

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:55 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:38 pm
Plenty of Hollywood actors/actresses currently available for hire !!!
Ryan Reynolds can spend more time over in the UK watching his beloved Wrexham FC. ;)

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:58 pm

swissguy wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:44 pm
Elyounoussi and Ajeti were both nowhere near as good as Amdouni for Basel.
Not questioning your viewpoint on this topic, but out of interest in what respect?

From what I can tell Elyounoussi and Ajetti had a better goal contribution record at a very similar age.

Elyounoussi got 19 goal contributions in 33 games.
Ajeti got 18 in 32 games.

While Amboundi had 16 in 32

I know there’s not a lot in it stats wise, are you saying that Amboundi has a higher ceiling or is just generally better all round?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:15 pm

northernpowerhouse wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:09 pm
Amdouni sounds like an exciting player but worth remembering he's coming from a much weaker league straight to the PL which will be difficult. Mohammed Elyonoussi and Albian Ajeti both left Basel for the PL and couldn't cut it.
Vincent Kompany v Ralph Hasenhüttl

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Post by Bigvince » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:19 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:58 pm
Not questioning your viewpoint on this topic, but out of interest in what respect?

From what I can tell Elyounoussi and Ajetti had a better goal contribution record at a very similar age.

Elyounoussi got 19 goal contributions in 33 games.
Ajeti got 18 in 32 games.

While Amboundi had 16 in 32

I know there’s not a lot in it stats wise, are you saying that Amboundi has a higher ceiling or is just generally better all round?
He won’t need a higher ceiling, if he’s only 5ft 7😀

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Post by Down_Rover » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:29 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:23 pm
It doesn’t matter what the system is Charlie is a one trick pony. Push and run down the line, close his eyes and belt it across. I’ve bleated for years about his lack of a right foot and how every team we play know he will never come infield and always overlap. This is so easy for the defenders to take up position against.
I have the utmost respect for him as a PL defender and until better is aboard we should keep him.
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Post by claretburns » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:15 pm
Vincent Kompany v Ralph Hasenhüttl
Hasenhüttl:

2011/12 - 2nd place with Aalen in Bundesliga 3 to win automatic promotion.
2014/15 - 1st place with Ingolstadt in Bundesliga 2 to win automatic promotion to Bundesliga for the first time in the club's history.
2015/16 - 11th place with Ingolstadt in Bundesliga despite being clear favourites for relegation.
2016/17 - 2nd place with RB Leipzig in Bundesliga, their first season at that level.

Following this several respectable mid table finishes with Southampton.

I am not for one moment saying Hasenhüttl was and is a better coach/manager than Kompany, I am just saying let's not totally disrepect his credentials of coaching players because of one failed season at Southampton (of which you could aim the blame at the board and their signings rather than Hasenhüttl himself).
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Post by Nori1958 » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:34 pm

Coventry reject offer for Hamer

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:36 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:10 pm
You don't need to know what it is to know what it isn't. If you disagree and think we will play a system that will suit Taylor then please feel free to say so. I think you'll be in the minority though.
I'm not disagreeing with anything.
I'm just wondering how people know what system we'll be playing this coming season and how anyone knows which Tom, Dick or Charlie will 'fit into it.'

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Post by boyyanno » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:42 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:36 pm
I'm not disagreeing with anything.
I'm just wondering how people know what system we'll be playing this coming season and how anyone knows which Tom, Dick or Charlie will 'fit into it.'
It doesn't take a genius to see that a square peg doesn't fit in to a round hole. We may evolve this season, but we saw the building blocks last year and Taylor didn't suit the style/system.

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Post by claretinkorea » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:46 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:42 pm


Considering their shortage of CB, then must have a good alternative lined up. Hope so for them.

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Post by claretinkorea » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:48 pm

Oops, got excited with the quote function 😀

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Post by equinox » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:49 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:42 pm
It doesn't take a genius to see that a square peg doesn't fit in to a round hole. We may evolve this season, but we saw the building blocks last year and Taylor didn't suit the style/system.
What a load of nonsense, a left back playing at left back is a square peg in a square hole.

Taylor isn't as good as Maatsen, it's as simple as that.
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:49 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:42 pm
Just posted…
I’d move on. That sounds like a very fair offer.
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Post by whiffa » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:49 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:42 pm
It doesn't take a genius to see that a square peg doesn't fit in to a round hole. We may evolve this season, but we saw the building blocks last year and Taylor didn't suit the style/system.
Not sure what your issue with Taylor is, he seemed to slot into the system well last season in my opinion and he's one of our few Premier League experienced players still in the squad. I wouldn't be so quick to write him off.
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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:50 pm

Hamer offer seems about right to me. Maybe a bit of cash on top but not a lot more. Move on otherwise.

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Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:50 pm

Wouldn’t take Teamtalk at face value, they seem to make stuff up.

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Post by Claretnick » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:54 pm

Coventry just signed a centre back, Joel Latibeaudiere from Swansea

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:59 pm

claretburns wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:30 pm
Hasenhüttl:

2011/12 - 2nd place with Aalen in Bundesliga 3 to win automatic promotion.
2014/15 - 1st place with Ingolstadt in Bundesliga 2 to win automatic promotion to Bundesliga for the first time in the club's history.
2015/16 - 11th place with Ingolstadt in Bundesliga despite being clear favourites for relegation.
2016/17 - 2nd place with RB Leipzig in Bundesliga, their first season at that level.

Following this several respectable mid table finishes with Southampton.

I am not for one moment saying Hasenhüttl was and is a better coach/manager than Kompany, I am just saying let's not totally disrepect his credentials of coaching players because of one failed season at Southampton (of which you could aim the blame at the board and their signings rather than Hasenhüttl himself).
I've never seen Saints play the type of football we did, that's my point

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Post by boyyanno » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:02 pm

whiffa wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:49 pm
Not sure what your issue with Taylor is, he seemed to slot into the system well last season in my opinion and he's one of our few Premier League experienced players still in the squad. I wouldn't be so quick to write him off.
You've obviously not bothered to read all my posts about this. I like Taylor, he's a good player, but he does need to be played in a system that suits him and the way we line up under Kompany is not that. To quote another poster he looked like a fish on a bike sometimes last season. He's good but limited.

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:03 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:54 pm
Coventry just signed a centre back, Joel Latibeaudiere from Swansea
They still need another couple - with both Doyle & McNally being on loan last season

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Post by boyyanno » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:04 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:49 pm
What a load of nonsense, a left back playing at left back is a square peg in a square hole.

Taylor isn't as good as Maatsen, it's as simple as that.
Thanks for demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge.

In your world a Target man and number 10 are both the same then because they both play as a forward.

Taylor doesn't suit how we play under Kompany, it's that simple.

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Post by LaLigaClaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:06 pm

Strange one the Hamer story. Coventry supposedly happy to be in actual talks with us regarding the two players on offer plus cash then back out as they sign Latibeaudiere. However they are still well short in the CB department and have lost some key players elsewhere. Perhaps we should up the cash a little and remove Thomas from the deal to offset that value. Or perhaps we can back to Millwall for Flemming and up the offer and or include McNally there.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:07 pm

or perhaps we should just not bother dealing with Coventry full stop
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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:08 pm

BB4Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:12 pm
Have the BFC media team come back from their holidays yet?

If things carry on like this, they’ll just be doing one video clip and introducing all the new signings as a five-a-side team. 😉
Perfect for a Mission Impossible/Ocean's Eleven type discussing needs/skill sets and final selection assemblage of the group type video release
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:10 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:07 pm
or perhaps we should just not bother dealing with Coventry full stop
This would be my preference. Clowns them lot

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