Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Re the young lad we’ve just signed from Espanyol, I feel like I’m missing something.

Clubs just don’t let their top bright young talent leave for the (relative) pittance we’ve signed him for.

So what’s the thinking here, I presume he’s one for the future and won’t necessarily be with the first team? I’ve seen they’ve been relegated and i know that most Spanish clubs are struggling financially so presuming we’re having a pint cause they’re skint?

They often do. We payed similar last year for the more established Zaroury and Benson. They’ve turned out alright… at 19 playing for Italy u19 and having played in la liga, he will be good enough to be in and around the first team squad in the prem, probably even make some appearances. Looks quick and skilful as well as two footed which gives him a good starting point.

[AfloatinClaret]

Just read that Massengo lad from Bristol City has turned us down because we couldn’t guarantee first team football.

How genuine that is I don’t know.

i saw similar, but didn't give it much credence; is any Premier League side likely to guarantee a first team place to a young lad from Bristol City?

[AfloatinClaret]

Long thought we could do with an experienced centre back when you look at the age and inexperience of our back line...

Kevin probably did think that, but to be fair we've done alright since we sold him to Birmingham; or are you suggesting that we buy him back again?

[AfloatinClaret]

£3 million is far from a pittance.

I thought that, though as an added incentive, the lad's American connection might be of assistance in our securing further investment from that direction?

[Vegas Claret]

Btw, I’ve been told by someone who works in and around the squad that a conversation has been had with one of VK’s former colleagues. The terms could be quite hazardous to a club of our size but I guess if we stay up and he gets back to previous levels then it’s paid for itself.

An appreciative enquiry led to said ex colleague flying in to have a meal with Vinny and the situation is described to be simmering away, nothing concrete as yet.

Oh Kevin De Burnley

[123EasyasBFC]

Not a chance Burnley are contemplating signing Eden Hazard

[Bigvince]

Looking at Luca Koleosho wiki page, it says he scored 35 goals in 14 appearances for Espanyol B, that’s some return if true, surely they got it the wrong way round.

[jedi_master]

Nixon is saying Tella to Burnley is 'live' but not there yet.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Nixon is saying Tella to Burnley is 'live' but not there yet.

If this happens I think I'd explode with this signing to go with all the others

[forzagranata]

Are Barca happy for Aguero to join us ? Eden is too chunky

Sadly, Sergio is here in Florida. Lives just down the road, saw him at the Inter Miami match the other day.

[123EasyasBFC]

Evans, Townsend, redmond and hazard some players for your team in 2017

[Vegas Claret]

Nixon is saying Tella to Burnley is 'live' but not there yet.

is he after Martin Tyler's old job ?

[jedi_master]

is he after Martin Tyler's old job ?

[Pickles]

Got a feeling 23 has been left for Tella...

[AGENT_CLARET]

Got a feeling 23 has been left for Tella...

Me to, him and Maatsen in within the next few day's hopefully

[RVclaret]

Me to, him and Maatsen in within the next few day's hopefully

No closer to agreeing a fee with Chelsea for Maatsen according to Nixon.

[FCBurnley]

Tella would turn this from an ok window to a brilliant one and Maatsen would make it incredible. Get those two in and then sell the deadwood and we would be in a super strong position even if we were relegated

[martin_p]

No closer to agreeing a fee with Chelsea for Maatsen according to Nixon.

That implies we’re still actively pursuing a deal?

[BurnleyFC]

Surely we couldn’t afford both Tella and Maatsen on top of all the other signings?

[forzagranata]

We haven't used any of our loans yet - that might come in handy with Maatsen.

[louieollie]

Nixon is saying Tella to Burnley is 'live' but not there yet.

Hah he's been reading this mb again

[jedi_master]

You really do have to question what our budget this summer is at this point. It's now clear we're still very actively trying to sign Tella and Maatsen permanently (one would assume that's about £25m as a minimum). We clearly still want at least one centre mid on top of that. We have already signed:

Trafford - £13m rising to 19m
Beyer - £13m? Unsure
Vigoroux - Free
Amdouni - £15.5m if the 18m Euro fee is correct
O'Shea - £7m
Koleosho - £3m
Redmond - £0
Obafemi - £3m

Total as of now would be approx £54.5m before we consider signing on fees etc. If we assume we want at least three more (Tella, Maatsen and a CM) then I think you're probably looking at another £40mish there, which would leave us at a £94.5m spend...

[123EasyasBFC]

You really do have to question what our budget this summer is at this point. It's now clear we're still very actively trying to sign Tella and Maatsen permanently (one would assume that's about £25m as a minimum). We clearly still want at least one centre mid on top of that. We have already signed:

Trafford - £13m rising to 19m
Beyer - £13m? Unsure
Vigoroux - Free
Amdouni - £15.5m if the 18m Euro fee is correct
O'Shea - £7m
Koleosho - £3m
Redmond - £0
Obafemi - £3m

Total as of now would be approx £54.5m before we consider signing on fees etc. If we assume we want at least three more (Tella, Maatsen and a CM) then I think you're probably looking at another £40mish there, which would leave us at a £94.5m spend...

And so far only £2m in sales with Thomas to Coventry

[Lancasterclaret]

You really do have to question what our budget this summer is at this point. It's now clear we're still very actively trying to sign Tella and Maatsen permanently (one would assume that's about £25m as a minimum). We clearly still want at least one centre mid on top of that. We have already signed:

Trafford - £13m rising to 19m
Beyer - £13m? Unsure
Vigoroux - Free
Amdouni - £15.5m if the 18m Euro fee is correct
O'Shea - £7m
Koleosho - £3m
Redmond - £0
Obafemi - £3m

Total as of now would be approx £54.5m before we consider signing on fees etc. If we assume we want at least three more (Tella, Maatsen and a CM) then I think you're probably looking at another £40mish there, which would leave us at a £94.5m spend...

How much of that will have been paid up front?

Not even half I reckon

Course, that is an issue if we get relegated, but that is the one of things we have to balance the risk and reward with isn't it?

[jedi_master]

How much of that will have been paid up front?

Not even half I reckon

Course, that is an issue if we get relegated, but that is the one of things we have to balance the risk and reward with isn't it?

The reward is probably the fact that (IF we got relegated) the likes of Amdouni, Trafford, Beyer (not to mention Zaroury, Benson, Al-Dakhil and others) will wipe the risk out with their transfer value.

It's gutsy - and was terrifying when we last got relegated, to me - but we know the strategy works at this point. It's just blown my mind the budget that has been afforded to Kompany - he has certainly been backed to the hilt. Fair bloody play.

[Silkyskills1]

Tella would turn this from an ok window to a brilliant one and Maatsen would make it incredible. Get those two in and then sell the deadwood and we would be in a super strong position even if we were relegated

Totally agree re: Nathan Tella. For me he was the heartbeat of the club last season. His goals, pace, absolute enthusiasm foe everything Claret rubbed off on the pitch and made its way very quickly to the supporters. We need that back from the off this season so we need him around.

[gandhisflipflop]

The reward is probably the fact that (IF we got relegated) the likes of Amdouni, Trafford, Beyer (not to mention Zaroury, Benson, Al-Dakhil and others) will wipe the risk out with their transfer value.

It's gutsy - and was terrifying when we last got relegated, to me - but we know the strategy works at this point. It's just blown my mind the budget that has been afforded to Kompany - he has certainly been backed to the hilt. Fair bloody play.

And I don’t think we are even close to being done yet. I still think we will sign at the very least…

1 winger
1 cm
1 left back

Potentially more than that too.

[FeedTheArf]

The reward is probably the fact that (IF we got relegated) the likes of Amdouni, Trafford, Beyer (not to mention Zaroury, Benson, Al-Dakhil and others) will wipe the risk out with their transfer value.

It's gutsy - and was terrifying when we last got relegated, to me - but we know the strategy works at this point. It's just blown my mind the budget that has been afforded to Kompany - he has certainly been backed to the hilt. Fair bloody play.

Can't argue with any of that. I think Pace realises just what he has in Kompany and will give him whatever he can afford to to keep him sweet!

[Lancasterclaret]

The reward is probably the fact that (IF we got relegated) the likes of Amdouni, Trafford, Beyer (not to mention Zaroury, Benson, Al-Dakhil and others) will wipe the risk out with their transfer value.

It's gutsy - and was terrifying when we last got relegated, to me - but we know the strategy works at this point. It's just blown my mind the budget that has been afforded to Kompany - he has certainly been backed to the hilt. Fair bloody play.

Well, the obvious rebuttal to that is we have a shocker, and all these young lads don't perform, then we've got issues if we get relegated

But its a rick worth taking, as if they click and shine, then you've got an extremely good, young and very valuable team

And lets be realistic here, if we don't have a young and exciting team, then we end up with an old and boring one, and that only really has a limited shelf life as we have found out

[forzagranata]

The reward is probably the fact that (IF we got relegated) the likes of Amdouni, Trafford, Beyer (not to mention Zaroury, Benson, Al-Dakhil and others) will wipe the risk out with their transfer value.

Not sure this would be the case.

If we got relegated - which we won't - but if we did, then I don't see much hope of recouping the cash for most of those players, let alone making a profit.

Maybe if one of them had an impressive individual season then we could do as we did with Nathan Collins. But if Amdouni or Trafford turn out to be flops (which hopefully they won't) then we won't be getting 20 million for them.

[jedi_master]

Not sure this would be the case.

If we got relegated - which we won't - but if we did, then I don't see much hope of recouping the cash for most of those players, let alone making a profit.

Maybe if one of them had an impressive individual season then we could do as we did with Nathan Collins. But if Amdouni or Trafford turn out to be flops (which hopefully they won't) then we won't be getting 20 million for them.

Of course, but we can only judge the ones we've seen at this point (i.e, last seasons players).

On that basis, I personally wouldn't take less than £25m for Benson, less than £20m for Beyer and Zaroury. I already see us building the value of players we've bought for substantially less. They haven't all been a success (i.e, Churlinov) but in general Kompany has given us absolute confidence that his investments are going to reap dividends for us.

[Vegas Claret]

You really do have to question what our budget this summer is at this point. It's now clear we're still very actively trying to sign Tella and Maatsen permanently (one would assume that's about £25m as a minimum). We clearly still want at least one centre mid on top of that. We have already signed:

Trafford - £13m rising to 19m
Beyer - £13m? Unsure
Vigoroux - Free
Amdouni - £15.5m if the 18m Euro fee is correct
O'Shea - £7m
Koleosho - £3m
Redmond - £0
Obafemi - £3m

Total as of now would be approx £54.5m before we consider signing on fees etc. If we assume we want at least three more (Tella, Maatsen and a CM) then I think you're probably looking at another £40mish there, which would leave us at a £94.5m spend...

one of the reasons JJ Watt was brought in was to secure outside investment, maybe he and others have been successful ? It's nothing something the club would announce

[summitclaret]

Fairly sure that Bayer, Cullen, Tella, and Maatzen are guaranteed to be worth a lot more in the future. Benson, Anass and the 2 centre backs signed last window probably. Trafford and the other new signings too soon to say, but it's a fair bet.

[Tricky Trevor]

IF we got relegated all of them will have relegation clauses and that team would come straight back up. The gap is eternally getting bigger and as we have proved in our last 3 terms amongst them we are a big fish.

[JohnDearyMe]

Totally agree re: Nathan Tella. For me he was the heartbeat of the club last season. His goals, pace, absolute enthusiasm foe everything Claret rubbed off on the pitch and made its way very quickly to the supporters. We need that back from the off this season so we need him around.

Not just a great and improving player but his work rate, especially off the ball, was phenomenal

[AGENT_CLARET]

Not just a great and improving player but his work rate, especially off the ball, was phenomenal

We need to stop bigging him up, the price will keep going up

[SirBob]

How much of that will have been paid up front?

Not even half I reckon

Course, that is an issue if we get relegated, but that is the one of things we have to balance the risk and reward with isn't it?

Don’t really see the relevance to this.

We may not be paying it all upfront be we are also paying for all the other previous transfers we’ve made in the last few windows.

We’re probably still paying out for Weghorst and Cornet and not to mention the fees we paid for last summer and in January

[andyh]

I’ve said it before but much too much is made of transfer fees. We’ve swapped £x million of cash for £x million of assets. Wages are the key to sustained profitability and that is something no one is privy to. If we’ve got good players on good wages then we are doing well. Who knows if the players we are buying will go up in value but they all have the potential to. If they do then happy days. In the current market I can’t see them dropping too much.

[claretcarrot93]

Don’t really see the relevance to this.

We may not be paying it all upfront be we are also paying for all the other previous transfers we’ve made in the last few windows.

We’re probably still paying out for Weghorst and Cornet and not to mention the fees we paid for last summer and in January

And also getting money in from Cornet, Collins, Pope, McNeil and Wood.

[Lancasterclaret]

Don’t really see the relevance to this.

We may not be paying it all upfront be we are also paying for all the other previous transfers we’ve made in the last few windows.

We’re probably still paying out for Weghorst and Cornet and not to mention the fees we paid for last summer and in January

Just making the point that it won't be us spending what has been worked out

As you say, we've money coming in and out from previous transfer windows as well

[warksclaret]

The exposure good players get in the PL is incredible, and if they have a great season their values absolutely balloon. Look at Caicedoe and Mitoma after a season with Brighton, or Palhinha of Fulham. Their values are now probably £55m- £90m each. Look at Gallagher in the Championship-looked tidy for WBA, but after a year at Palace worth £45m. Imagine if we have a half decent season in the Prem what Beyer, Zarorry, Benson, and Tella if we get him, could be worth. No point going into the Prem thinking "small". Scouting and wise investments have allowed Brentford and Brighton to become major players in the Prem

[TheFamilyCat]

The exposure good players get in the PL is incredible, and if they have a great season their values absolutely balloon. Look at Caicedoe and Mitoma after a season with Brighton, or Palhinha of Fulham. Their values are now probably £55m- £90m each. Look at Gallagher in the Championship-looked tidy for WBA, but after a year at Palace worth £45m. Imagine if we have a half decent season in the Prem what Beyer, Zarorry, Benson, and Tella if we get him, could be worth. No point going into the Prem thinking "small". Scouting and wise investments have allowed Brentford and Brighton to become major players in the Prem

I think "major players" may be a bit of a stretch.

[warksclaret]

I think "major players" may be a bit of a stretch.

Ask Pep, Kloppp and Arteta if they think they are major players-they should know

[Hedontplayforyou]

I think 2 central midfielders is a must.

[Pickles]

I think 2 central midfielders is a must.

I think I agree.

[spt_claret]

Fairly sure that Bayer, Cullen, Tella, and Maatzen are guaranteed to be worth a lot more in the future. Benson, Anass and the 2 centre backs signed last window probably. Trafford and the other new signings too soon to say, but it's a fair bet.

Cullen's 27. Time running out on making a profit on him so I'd be surprised.
The others I'd agree.

[123EasyasBFC]

Tella with the Southampton squad this evening so they can’t be anything agreed yet

[RVclaret]

Oh dear, some bad info going round it seems then.

[Firthy]

I think I agree.

I think therefore I am

[Firthy]

Oh dear, some bad info going round it seems then.

Not necesarily, even Nixon has said negotiations are ongoing with Tella so things are happening, just not fast enough for some.