Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Clive 1960 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:32 am

I'm still hoping we might have a couple of more players in before Fri or early next week 🙏

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Post by agreenwood » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:30 am

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

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Post by agreenwood » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:41 am

If he comes in you’d think that’s it for wingers/attacking midfielders. We’ll be well stocked. Not sure where it leaves Townsend.

Larsen has had a mediocre last few years by the looks of it, having shown a lot of promise as a youngster.

Kompany had him on loan at Anderlecht tho, so will know him.
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Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:41 am

Maybe not that odd

Gives us a year to look at him and make sure before we buy him, similar to what we did with Beyer

If his contract was up in 2024 wouldn’t that have meant we’d get him for free?
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Post by roperclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:42 am

Did VK have this guy at Anderlecht?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:43 am

Got to imagine that’s the end of the Tella links then

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Post by agreenwood » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:44 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:41 am
Maybe not that odd

Gives us a year to look at him and make sure before we buy him, similar to what we did with Beyer

If his contract was up in 2024 wouldn’t that have meant we’d get him for free?
You’d think he comes with an option. They were supposedly happy to let him go for a few €m earlier this summer. Presumably the fee would be fixed now rather than pay through the nose for him in 12 months if it does go well here.

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Post by bobinho » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:48 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:41 am
Maybe not that odd

Gives us a year to look at him and make sure before we buy him, similar to what we did with Beyer

If his contract was up in 2024 wouldn’t that have meant we’d get him for free?
If we end up with another Beyer, then I’m sure we’d all be happy.

Well, not another Beyer, but you know what I mean….

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by roperclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:51 am

Muric
Vigeroux
Roberts
O Shea
Ekdal
Beyer
Taylor
Vitinho
Cullen
Cork
Brownhill
JGB
Twine
Redmond
Benson
Zaroury
Larson
Jay
Andoumi
Foster
Weghorst
Obefemi

That’s 22

New LB
Nee CM

That’s 25

Townsend?
Bastien
McNally

Unless the new LB or CM are under 21 we are running out of room

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Post by roperclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:52 am

*24

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Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:01 am

And Trafford

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:01 am

claptrappers_union wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:01 am
And Trafford
U21 doesn’t count towards the 25
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:03 am

Isn’t Larsen the one everyone said we had signed then we suddenly pulled out of the deal

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:03 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:01 am
U21 doesn’t count towards the 25
If we sign Maatsen and vranckx on perm deals they wouldn’t count towards the 25 either so potentially fees more space

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Post by Pheonixknight » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:07 am

Its beginning to feel a little like Newcastle under Keegan to me...doesn't matter how many you score...we will always score one more...properly forward heavy...anyway, what do I know.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:21 am

Pheonixknight wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:07 am
Its beginning to feel a little like Newcastle under Keegan to me...doesn't matter how many you score...we will always score one more...properly forward heavy...anyway, what do I know.
Amazing isn’t it, you only need go back an handful of pages in this thread and plenty moaning about us signing too many defenders.

I imagine in a few pages time the concerns about a need for central midfielders will also have been addressed.
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:25 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:21 am
Amazing isn’t it, you only need go back an handful of pages in this thread and plenty moaning about us signing too many defenders.

I imagine in a few pages time the concerns about a need for central midfielders will also have been addressed.
Heard something positive on the midfield front then?

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:27 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:25 am
Heard something positive on the midfield front then?
No, I just trust that they know what they are doing and don’t think you have to sign players in order of priority.
I’m certain we will have strengthened in midfield before we kick off the season.
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Post by expoultryboy » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:36 am

I hope you're right

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Post by Bangers&Mash » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:44 am

Unlikely Obafemi will be named in the squad with his injury so there's another free space

What I find exciting about this is we aren't going to be a couple of injuries away from bodging a team together and we can rest players in the cup without essentially throwing the tie away

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Post by ervi34 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:46 am

When can we change our squad list? At the end of January? Wouldn't surprise me if we omitted Obafemi because he's unlikely to feature for some time.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:46 am

If kompany sees Redmond as a more central player then I think it still makes sense to sign 2 wide players after Townsend.
Last season we have benson tella zaroury and JBG, kompany sees JBG as a central player and don’t think churlinov is in the plans.
Benson needs spells of rest so having: tella, benson, Townsend, zaroury and Larsen with Redmond able to play wide to, I don’t think that seems to unrealistic.

But it does also reduce the amount of spaces in other positions for the squad

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:48 am

roperclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:51 am
Muric
Vigeroux
Roberts
O Shea
Ekdal
Beyer
Taylor
Vitinho
Cullen
Cork
Brownhill
JGB
Twine
Redmond
Benson
Zaroury
Larson
Jay
Andoumi
Foster
Weghorst
Obefemi

That’s 22

New LB
Nee CM

That’s 25

Townsend?
Bastien
McNally

Unless the new LB or CM are under 21 we are running out of room
I can still see Taylor, McNally, Bastien and Weghorst leaving.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:49 am

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:18 pm
You really do have to question what our budget this summer is...

Total as of now would be approx £54.5... probably looking at another £40mish there, which would leave us at a £94.5m spend...
Which would require some significant sales income to at least partially offset. Given our business model our purchases and who is/isn't getting game time in the friendlies my guesses would be Cullen, Benson and perhaps Muric

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:52 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:49 am
Which would require some significant sales income to at least partially offset. Given our business model our purchases and who is/isn't getting game time in the friendlies my guesses would be Cullen, Benson and perhaps Muric
Cullen not getting game time? He played 90 minutes on Saturday at genk, muric played 90 minutes last night, benson is injured
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Post by ervi34 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:54 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:49 am
Which would require some significant sales income to at least partially offset. Given our business model our purchases and who is/isn't getting game time in the friendlies my guesses would be Cullen, Benson and perhaps Muric
Cullen played against Genk. Benson can't play if he's injured.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:55 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:49 am
Which would require some significant sales income to at least partially offset. Given our business model our purchases and who is/isn't getting game time in the friendlies my guesses would be Cullen, Benson and perhaps Muric
A bit tough on Benson that, given he’s supposedly injured?

And I’d be astonished if Cullen went. He played vs Genk.

And Muric played last night, so where does that leave him?

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Post by Carwin261 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:55 am

roperclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:51 am
Muric
Vigeroux
Roberts
O Shea
Ekdal
Beyer
Taylor
Vitinho
Cullen
Cork
Brownhill
JGB
Twine
Redmond
Benson
Zaroury
Larson
Jay
Andoumi
Foster
Weghorst
Obefemi

That’s 22

New LB
Nee CM

That’s 25

Townsend?
Bastien
McNally

Unless the new LB or CM are under 21 we are running out of room
Have you missed Koleosho out.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:56 am

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:55 am
Have you missed Koleosho out.
He’s 18
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Post by ervi34 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:57 am

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:55 am
Have you missed Koleosho out.
Under 21 so he doesn't count. Same as Trafford and Al Dakhil.

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:57 am

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:55 am
Have you missed Koleosho out.
Under 21

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Post by Anthonini » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:07 am

roperclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:42 am
Did VK have this guy at Anderlecht?

Yes though it's been over a year ago now, he did play some decent games especially against Club Brugge where he scored a few amazing goals. He's quick, good dribbler, and really has some gunpowder in his legs. Good free kick taker too.

Not sure if he will be good enough for Burnley though but he surely has potential. If you're low on budget I understand why VK would give him a chance. Although Premier League is a whole different level.

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Post by Quicknick » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:15 am

Anthonini wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:07 am
Yes though it's been over a year ago now, he did play some decent games especially against Club Brugge where he scored a few amazing goals. He's quick, good dribbler, and really has some gunpowder in his legs. Good free kick taker too.

Not sure if he will be good enough for Burnley though but he surely has potential. If you're low on budget I understand why VK would give him a chance. Although Premier League is a whole different level.
Thanks for the insights from Belgium, Anthonini.

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Post by Selby Claret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:28 am

roperclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:51 am
Muric
Vigeroux
Roberts
O Shea
Ekdal
Beyer
Taylor
Vitinho
Cullen
Cork
Brownhill
JGB
Twine
Redmond
Benson
Zaroury
Larson
Jay
Andoumi
Foster
Weghorst
Obefemi

That’s 22

New LB
Nee CM

That’s 25

Townsend?
Bastien
McNally

Unless the new LB or CM are under 21 we are running out of room
Churlinov not on the list

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Post by LaLigaClaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:59 am

There are still reports that we are still interested in Tella, Maatsen, Tresor, Vrankx, Hamer and Lakonga. Given we may get a couple in on loans amongst let alone signed as permanents we are definitely in danger of having more players than the squad limit unless there is going to be a number of outgoings. McNally and CJ Egan-Riley, Franchi could be loaned out. Weghorst a likely outgoing however no-one seems to be bidding on him, Churlinov another possible outgoing but again is he still ill ? Taylor is attracting interest. Cork may be a possible outgoing if other midfielders are brought in, Jayrod and JBG may be coming to the end of their time at the Turf. Bastien may be another to go out on loan or be sold. Outgoings seem inevitable in the coming weeks if any others are coming in.

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Post by roperclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:00 am

Selby Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:28 am
Churlinov not on the list
I think he’s gone once he recovers his health

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Post by Rowls » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:19 am

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:59 am
... Cork may be a possible outgoing if other midfielders are brought in...
We need Cork's experience and game reading ability. If we have a difficult spell then players like him will be essential.

I'd keep Cork in the squad if he was just a brain in a jar. His ability to marshall and organise our midfield is way above anybody else in our squad.
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Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:30 am

Experienced heads and more energy from Townsend and Redmond might have VK thinking he could release Cork.

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:33 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:30 am
https://twitter.com/Sky_Marlon89/status ... 7637744640

Jacub Brunn Larsen coming on loan?
I’m becoming convinced that Benny has big offers and is funding some of this summer spending. We can’t possibly need so many wide players!!
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Post by Carwin261 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:49 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:33 am
I’m becoming convinced that Benny has big offers and is funding some of this summer spending. We can’t possibly need so many wide players!!
We new what the crack was when VK came ,buy young ,improve ,& sell ,that’s how we survive

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:51 am

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:49 am
We new what the crack was when VK came ,buy young ,improve ,& sell ,that’s how we survive
Yes, although Benson is the one I’d be most disappointed to see leave. Brilliant talent and I’m hoping we’d see him light up the Prem.

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Post by BigChaCha » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:54 am

I’m becoming convinced that Benny has big offers and is funding some of this summer spending. We can’t possibly need so many wide players!!
I doubt it, it will need to be massive money and he struggled to start for a Championship team last season at times so that kind of money is unlikely...

We don't have that many wingers anyway!... Any team that wants a strong squad should have at least 4 wingers or two players per position and JGB plays more central these days... Another winger we bought is only 18 so hardly a first-team guaranteed regular and he doesn't even look like a traditional winger anyway...

It's called building a squad!... I know you're not used to it but that's the way it is supposed to be and we have a board and manager who get that!

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:58 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:33 am
I’m becoming convinced that Benny has big offers and is funding some of this summer spending. We can’t possibly need so many wide players!!
Ha! We said that last year!
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Post by BigChaCha » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:59 am

We new what the crack was when VK came ,buy young ,improve ,& sell ,that’s how we survive
Can we cut this narrative?... Every team has that policy apart from the likes of Chelsea and Man City, which is to buy low, sell high lol... People are acting like we just invented it...

In fact, there is far more proof of that working under SD than the current regime. We bought and developed a lot of players under SD that cost peanuts and were sold for multiple millions... We have always done that and that model is what at least 90% of teams are trying to fufil!

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:09 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:33 am
I’m becoming convinced that Benny has big offers and is funding some of this summer spending. We can’t possibly need so many wide players!!
What do you mean so many wingers, in January when zaroury goes to AFCON if benson gets injured as things stand we only have Redmond, churlinov and JBG (who doesn’t really play wide anymore)

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Post by aggi » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:26 am

Selby Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:28 am
Churlinov not on the list
Suggestions seemed to be that it was unlikely he would be fit this year.

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Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:33 am

Why are we so keen to sell our best players? What’s wrong with having the strongest squad possible? The squads we’ve has in previous Premier League seasons have usually had a very obvious strongest 11-15 players with the others being ones where you’d worry if they were in the team. It’d be great to have a squad where we could be happy whoever out of the 25 started.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:48 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:33 am
I’m becoming convinced that Benny has big offers and is funding some of this summer spending. We can’t possibly need so many wide players!!
I'm pretty sure that's not the case if anything suspicious was going on you would have heard about murmurs long before now, it wouldn't go completely under the radar if other clubs were interested it would be picked up upon & reported.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ervi34 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:54 am

BigChaCha wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:59 am
Can we cut this narrative?... Every team has that policy apart from the likes of Chelsea and Man City, which is to buy low, sell high lol... People are acting like we just invented it...
Agree 100%.

And you also have to include the fact that we were relegated last season. Almost every club that goes down is bound to lose their star players. Just because we moved most of them last year doesn't mean that we will sell our best performers now. It's not the same situation.

Tavolieri also confirmed that Benson will stay with Burnley this season.

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