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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by spt_claret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:59 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:09 am
What do you mean so many wingers, in January when zaroury goes to AFCON if benson gets injured as things stand we only have Redmond, churlinov and JBG (who doesn’t really play wide anymore)
We'll have:
Zaroury
Churlinov
Redmond
JBG (position debates notwithstanding)
Benson
Larson
Kolasheo
Vitinho (backup)

Add in Obafemi played there last year and we're allegedly still looking at Tella and Townsend is impressing that could give us as many as 11 players who can play wide. Not to mention even Bastien deputised left wing last year.
Larsen has apparently played centrally according to Whoscored, JBG and Vitinho will likely play other roles, I think Tella will end up more central, but even in the CAM role we have:
Amdouni
Brownhill
JBG
Foster
Apparently Larson

I think it's almost nailed on that at least Churlinov goes (shame as he's barely had a chance), probably Bastien, but I can see another going at this point with how overstocked we could end up,even with Obafemis injury, Foster and Zaroury at AFCON, and JBG/Vitinho not being primarily wingers.

We're going to have more than 25 over 21s before we sign for midfield/left back. Need to make room.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:00 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:59 am
We'll have:
Zaroury
Churlinov
Redmond
JBG (position debates notwithstanding)
Benson
Larson
Kolasheo
Vitinho (backup)

Add in Obafemi played there last year and we're allegedly still looking at Tella and Townsend is impressing that could give us as many as 11 players who can play wide. Not to mention even Bastien deputised left wing last year.
Larsen has apparently played centrally according to Whoscored, JBG and Vitinho will likely play other roles, I think Tella will end up more central, but even in the CAM role we have:
Amdouni
Brownhill
JBG
Foster
Apparently Larson

I think it's almost nailed on that at least Churlinov goes (shame as he's barely had a chance), probably Bastien, but I can see another going at this point with how overstocked we could end up,even with Obafemis injury, Foster and Zaroury at AFCON, and JBG/Vitinho not being primarily wingers.

We're going to have more than 25 over 21s before we sign for midfield/left back. Need to make room.
Foster and Amdouni have both played on the wing as well

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Post by dermotdermot » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:04 pm

Who he? Tavolieri?

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:06 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:04 pm
Who he? Tavolieri?
New winger signing today :D

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:23 pm

In response to BigChaCha, we previously had a buy young and sell high policy but we completely moved away from it in recent years until the new regime took control.

In the past we had Ings to step up one Austin sold,Pope who could step up once Heaton sold, Tarks to step up when Keane was sold etc.

Following a change in approach we didn’t have the next can off the rank’ and as an example ended up in a position where we had nobody to replace Tarks and so couldn’t sell him and ended up with nothing.

We are now clearly aiming for an approach where we have the next player available and can sell when we think a player has hit the maximum level of return so if for example someone offers an eye watering figure for someone at 1 minute to 11 on 31st August we can accept it and know we have backup.

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Post by 1882Scott » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:27 pm

I worry sometimes if were going to overspend and under perform then go straight back down!

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Post by whiffa » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:46 pm

1882Scott wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:27 pm
I worry sometimes if were going to overspend and under perform then go straight back down!
I wouldn't start worrying about that until we actually overspend.

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Post by It Is What It Is » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:47 pm

1882Scott wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:27 pm
I worry sometimes if were going to overspend and under perform then go straight back down!
Like walking around with an umbrella over your head just waiting for it to rain.
It'll be al reet.
The EPL riches will keep us going for some time..
Speculate to accumulate...with the talent and energy in this squad, plus VK, most on a four/five year deal, the Premiership is secure, aim must be at least Euro conference in 3/4 years..
Chill and enjoy the ride
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:53 pm

The Larsen signing could well be a plan to replace JBG, with the loan being in essence a trial period. Larsen is predominantly a wide player but is versatile a bit like Redmond who I also see as being able to operate in that JBG/Jay role that we witnessed last night.

Zaroury at AFCON and Benson picking up knocks (already injured currently), add to that Townsend can be injury prone and we’ve then still got cover.

Plus I think we may be approaching this window with an attitude of , “if we can improve we will do it” then if that means moving some on that we didn’t necessarily plan on doing this summer, then so be it.

Possible outgoing for me would be:
McNally
Bastien
Churlinov
Weghorst
Rodriguez
JBG

The bottom three are maybes especially given the injury record of the Jay and JBG. Both of whom I think played well yesterday.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:00 pm

Benson just posted on Instagram saying

"Blessed for what's coming"

Is he off??!

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:03 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:00 pm
Benson just posted on Instagram saying

"Blessed for what's coming"

Is he off??!
Could as easily been impressed with his teammates efforts last night.
In fact it is more likely than him leaking a potential move.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:09 pm

Could simply mean he’s fit to feature in Fridays game

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:11 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:00 pm
Benson just posted on Instagram saying

"Blessed for what's coming"

Is he off??!
Or maybe he's been offered a new and improved contract.
🎼🎵🎶 Always look on the bright side of life. 🎶🎵

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Post by RHansburyEsq » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:11 pm

Absolutely no idea if benson is off or not but if he was I would not be surprised. I can imagine the model involves selling at least one of the Crown Jewels once a season and would make sense in terms of the amount of spend so far plus ongoing links that we are expecting to recoup something somewhere. Me as a fan will be pretty gutted when the time comes (now or later) but as a realist at some point we’re going to have to cash in on some of these favourites whilst their stock is high. They might increase their value with a good season in the premier league but at the same time they might get injured or lose form. Hard decisions.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:11 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:00 pm
Benson just posted on Instagram saying

"Blessed for what's coming"

Is he off??!
When players post this cryptic messages, does anyone think to ask what they're on about or just post it on here?

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:13 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:11 pm
When players post this cryptic messages, does anyone think to ask what they're on about or just post it on here?
Yeah I just post it on here so I can get replies like this.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:16 pm

Would you post it in your Burnley training gear as well if you were leaving?

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Post by northeastclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:24 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:00 pm
Benson just posted on Instagram saying

"Blessed for what's coming"

Is he off??!
What utter nonsense speculation. It’s obviously because of how well we played last night, or he is on a promise tonight ;)

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Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:37 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:53 pm
The Larsen signing could well be a plan to replace JBG, with the loan being in essence a trial period. Larsen is predominantly a wide player but is versatile a bit like Redmond who I also see as being able to operate in that JBG/Jay role that we witnessed last night.

Zaroury at AFCON and Benson picking up knocks (already injured currently), add to that Townsend can be injury prone and we’ve then still got cover.

Plus I think we may be approaching this window with an attitude of , “if we can improve we will do it” then if that means moving some on that we didn’t necessarily plan on doing this summer, then so be it.

Possible outgoing for me would be:
McNally
Bastien
Churlinov
Weghorst
Rodriguez
JBG

The bottom three are maybes especially given the injury record of the Jay and JBG. Both of whom I think played well yesterday.
Churlinov won’t be fit enough to be sold before the Window shuts is he not recovering from sepsis or similar? Imagine if well enough a loan out in Jan with a view to a permanent deal next summer would be our best option.

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Post by whiffa » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:39 pm

I suspect Benson is just looking forward to playing in the Premier League.
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Post by Commy » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:51 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:59 am
Can we cut this narrative?... Every team has that policy apart from the likes of Chelsea and Man City, which is to buy low, sell high lol... People are acting like we just invented it...

In fact, there is far more proof of that working under SD than the current regime. We bought and developed a lot of players under SD that cost peanuts and were sold for multiple millions... We have always done that and that model is what at least 90% of teams are trying to fufil!
But we did invent it back in the day.

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Post by Kevwando » Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:13 pm

He is blessed to be playing for Burnley in the premier league

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Post by TPClaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:20 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:00 pm
Benson just posted on Instagram saying

"Blessed for what's coming"

Is he off??!
Like Muric was off when he posted something on social media the other week

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Post by Andreshotboots » Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:00 pm

Maybe Benson was at a Maccy D's drive through at the time of posting?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:21 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:20 pm
Henri Lansbury has been released by Luton. I can't really say I was aware that he was playing for them.
He's retiring so he can focus on football pitch maintenance.

There go our dreams of seeing him in a Burnley shirt

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:22 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:21 pm
He's retiring so he can focus on football pitch maintenance.

There go our dreams of seeing him in a Burnley shirt
Surely we can get a season or 2 out of him?

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Post by summitclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:44 pm

He's off to Everton. Wi8nk wink
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Post by It Is What It Is » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:12 pm

Nothing cryptic about it all.
Just looking forward to playing in the Premiership... And with Burnley.

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Post by MDWat » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:16 pm

Noah Sadiki, who I think we were after earlier in the window, has signed for Union St. Gilloise

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Post by claret2018 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:16 pm

Remember the window then we signed Dale Stephens and no one else

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:41 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:00 pm
Benson just posted on Instagram saying

"Blessed for what's coming"

Is he off??!
give over, lad is hungry and he just ordered his favourite butty

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Post by Stan Tastic » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:49 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:12 pm
Nothing cryptic about it all.
Just looking forward to playing in the Premiership... And with Burnley.
He'll be disappointed then because he'll be playing in The Premier League.

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:02 pm

Are the Tresor links genuine?

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Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:03 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:44 pm
He's off to Everton. Wi8nk wink
Dyche wouldn’t know what to do with him 😂

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Post by Firthy » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:12 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:03 pm
Dyche wouldn’t know what to do with him 😂
Not sure if Benny is a fan of omelettes :o :lol: :lol:

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:43 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:02 pm
Are the Tresor links genuine?
Hope so

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Post by dsr » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:47 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:21 pm
He's retiring so he can focus on football pitch maintenance.

There go our dreams of seeing him in a Burnley shirt
Not necessarily. He can wear a Burnley shirt while he's cutting the grass or putting out the corner flags! :)
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Post by Ampth7 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:48 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:16 pm
Remember the window then we signed Dale Stephens and no one else
🤣
Those were the days……..wait…….when did Dale Stephens play for us? 😂

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:08 pm

Nixon reporting we’ve had a £9m bid for Tella turned down by Saints who want between 15-20m.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:11 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:08 pm
Nixon reporting we’ve had a £9m bid for Tella turned down by Saints who want between 15-20m.
yeah I'd have to say that 9 million is a gigantic **** take and very poor from us. In today's market he's got to be pushing 13-15 imho

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:13 pm

13 plus add ons for a player they’ve never wanted would do it.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:14 pm

Is this a case of the media being behind the curve and the posters on here who said it was a done deal are right??

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:15 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:11 pm
yeah I'd have to say that 9 million is a gigantic **** take and very poor from us. In today's market he's got to be pushing 13-15 imho
Ismaila Sarr (proven Prem and international & better player than Tella) just went to Marseille for €13m so around £11m. I think somewhere around £10m is a fair offer.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:16 pm

Whats is "todays market" though?

He had essentially done very little till we and him turned him into the perfect fit - he still got very limited premier league experience

Put it one way, I think Saints are open to selling him and won't want to scare us off too much

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:18 pm

He’s also saying we will go back in with another offer this week.

I must say I find it bizarre and can only assume we aren’t signing Townsend.

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:19 pm

Absolute guesswork here but I am going to guess we sign Tella on deadline day.

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Post by taio » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:21 pm

£9m would be a fair and reasonable first offer especially when it seems we've had and possibly still have several irons in the fire.
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Post by jedi_master » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:22 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:18 pm
He’s also saying we will go back in with another offer this week.

I must say I find it bizarre and can only assume we aren’t signing Townsend.
I reckon VK sees Tella as a forward long term. Fully appreciate he operated from the right predominantly, but just how I see it with the Larsen and Townsend signings seemingly obvious. I also think he is wanting pace and penetration/game changing ability all over his 9 man bench. The ability to throw Tella and/or Benson on with 30 to go etc.

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Post by Longsider » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:26 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:22 pm
I reckon VK sees Tella as a forward long term. Fully appreciate he operated from the right predominantly, but just how I see it with the Larsen and Townsend signings seemingly obvious. I also think he is wanting pace and penetration/game changing ability all over his 9 man bench. The ability to throw Tella and/or Benson on with 30 to go etc.
Bloody hell. Imagine being in a position to throw Tella and Benson on for fun in the last 30. Any team and fans in the bottom third will seriously pap it.

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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:28 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:18 pm
He’s also saying we will go back in with another offer this week.

I must say I find it bizarre and can only assume we aren’t signing Townsend.
How many wide forwards are we up to? Genuine question as I’ve lost count. I make it Benson, Zaroury, Redmond, JBG, Koleosho (I could well have missed one). I think VK will use 4 wide forwards almost every game, so we need at least 5 as it’s a position where we are likely to miss players throughout the season due to injuries, and 6 is probably optimum. I’m not sure JBG is quite up to the PL if I’m brutally honest and VK seemed to prefer him in a more central role, and Koleosho is likely to play a small part if any.

Then when you consider that some of these players are versatile and can cover more than one position, such as Tella playing off the number 10, it wouldn’t surprise me if we’re still looking to sign both. After all Townsend is a free transfer and his experience will be very useful around the group. Having said that, it’s a world apart from what we’re used to so I can see how it’s difficult to see how all these players will fit in.

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