Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Jakubclaret]

Read this thread from back to front. Only thing that can be decided as factual is that NOBODY has a clue what’s goin on behind the scenes.
So does anybody know of a newsagents who keep their billboards updated ? Il buy the paper the old fashioned way. Will save a lifetime on here.

That won't work because if it's not on twitter it simply isn't true, the newspaper will tell you nothing.

[Firthy]

So Palmer and Tella to join giving us EIGHT wide options

More likely to be one or the other. Possibly Palmer if we can't get Tella

[Hedontplayforyou]

Would we let JBG go if we could bring them both in? He’s looked sharp in pre season but may be long term thinking

[Firthy]

Would we let JBG go if we could bring them both in? He’s looked sharp in pre season but may be long term thinking

JBG won't be going anywhere. We need his experience for at least this season, I'm pretty sure VK knows that.

[Blyclaret]

Sacha Boey. A right back linked. Says we have made an offer.

[Pickles]

Would we let JBG go if we could bring them both in? He’s looked sharp in pre season but may be long term thinking

I've said on another thread that I think out of our midfield and forward options, Gudmundsson is one of the most likely to miss out and therefore perhaps move on.

[Nori1958]

Sacha Boey. A right back linked. Says we have made an offer.

Looks like he's valued around the 25m mark

[randomclaret2]

Sacha Boey. A right back linked. Says we have made an offer.

Arsenal were supposedly interested earlier in the summer. French right back from Galatasaray

[RVclaret]

Would we let JBG go if we could bring them both in? He’s looked sharp in pre season but may be long term thinking

Don’t think JBG will be going anywhere this season. Kompany just offered him a new deal. If anything, it will perhaps allow Twine to get a full season in the Championship under his belt.

[Hedontplayforyou]

JBG won't be going anywhere. We need his experience for at least this season, I'm pretty sure VK knows that.

At first this is what I thought regarding JBG. Plus his involvement in pre season almost cements it, but if we had the opportunity to bring both in, then someone would have to miss out or leave the squad .

[Guller Bull]

Sach Boey link

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... acha-boey/

[Hedontplayforyou]

Twine is 24 , he needs to stay with us in my opinion and play at the highest level possible to develop and reach his potential. He has definitely got quality, it’s a matter of adapting to the pace of it for me.

[arise_sir_charge]

Don’t think JBG will be going anywhere this season. Kompany just offered him a new deal. If anything, it will perhaps allow Twine to get a full season in the Championship under his belt.

I’ll be amazed if Twine goes anywhere. I’m expecting him to be in our starting XI.

[RVclaret]

Twine is 24 , he needs to stay with us in my opinion and play at the highest level possible to develop and reach his potential. He has definitely got quality, it’s a matter of adapting to the pace of it for me.

I’ll be amazed if Twine goes anywhere. I’m expecting him to be in our starting XI.

I don’t disagree with either of you and I’m a big fan of his.

But as pointed out with all these wingers/attackers there’s literally no space, even on the bench, for them all (if Palmer was to sign too). Given he missed out on most of last season it wouldn’t be a total surprise.

[Lancasterclaret]

I think the game time that Twine has had pre season suggest he isn't going anywhere

[Spijed]

I think the game time that Twine has had pre season suggest he isn't going anywhere

That's why Andros Townsend is very likely to sign for us with the amount of time he's played as well.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Suggestions that we are still contemplating signing THB permanently and that City would demand a £35m buy back clause.

Makes you wonder how we would fit all these players in the squad.

Especially now we’ve been linked with a right back as well in Boey.

Could well be a few outgoings.

[RVclaret]

Suggestions that we are still contemplating signing THB permanently and that City would demand a £35m buy back clause.

Makes you wonder how we would fit all these players in the squad.

Especially now we’ve been linked with a right back as well in Boey.

Could well be a few outgoings.

Where did you see this? Nixon this morning said we weren’t prepared to match the asking price.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Sach Boey link

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... acha-boey/

Seems a bit strange that we are going in for an unknown fullback for €25 million (£21.5 million) but are still quibbling over £15 million for Tella.

[taio]

Don’t think JBG will be going anywhere this season. Kompany just offered him a new deal. If anything, it will perhaps allow Twine to get a full season in the Championship under his belt.

Not sure why you'd think we'd let Twine leave if you feel
he's going to be in or around our starting eleven.

[Rileybobs]

Seems a bit strange that we are going in for an unknown fullback for €25 million (£21.5 million) but are still quibbling over £15 million for Tella.

I’m pretty sure that any player we’re going in for won’t be unknown. And if we don’t value Tella at £15m then it doesn’t seem strange at all to me.

[RVclaret]

Not sure why you'd think we'd let Twine leave if you feel
he's going to be in or around our starting eleven.

Yeah, bit of a paradox. Guess i’m more in the camp of ‘we don’t need anymore wingers/attackers’ right now but with the suggestion we still want Palmer/Tella makes me think one or two might leave.

Hard to argue that Palmer wouldn’t be a level above Twine (for now, given his time at City so far) and that the latter missed out on most of last season, while probably not starting for us in the Prem (yet). Dunno, interesting.

[Nori1958]

Where did you see this? Nixon this morning said we weren’t prepared to match the asking price.

The 35m buy back was in relation to palmer

[Elizabeth]

That's why Andros Townsend is very likely to sign for us with the amount of time he's played as well.

Yes , I think VK wants to be sure of his fitness before committing to a player who has been unlucky with injuries in recent seasons.

[Elizabeth]

Yeah, bit of a paradox. Guess i’m more in the camp of ‘we don’t need anymore wingers/attackers’ right now but with the suggestion we still want Palmer/Tella makes me think one or two might leave.

Hard to argue that Palmer wouldn’t be a level above Twine (for now, given his time at City so far) and that the latter missed out on most of last season, while probably not starting for us in the Prem (yet). Dunno, interesting.

Yes, I’d say so. If it goes for Twine I’m excited by how good he will be linking up play around the box , not to mention his eye for goal and free kicks

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don’t disagree with either of you and I’m a big fan of his.

But as pointed out with all these wingers/attackers there’s literally no space, even on the bench, for them all (if Palmer was to sign too). Given he missed out on most of last season it wouldn’t be a total surprise.

I’ve been saying it for a while,

If we signed the like of Palmer and Tella this window, Twine is likely going to leave in my opinion. He just won’t get enough game time

[NewClaret]

Sach Boey link

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... acha-boey/

Looks good!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=snZbxxwF2HU

Gets my YouTube scouting approval

[Spijed]

I’ve been saying it for a while,

If we signed the like of Palmer and Tella this window, Twine is likely going to leave in my opinion. He just won’t get enough game time

So completely pointless in playing Twine in the friendlies if that's the case.

[Darnhill Claret]

IF these links are anywhere near accurate VK's biggest job will be to keep a harmonious dressing room. I think there might have to be 4 or 5 departures and some fans favourites may be leaving.

[Newcastleclaret93]

So completely pointless in playing Twine in the friendlies if that's the case.

You could argue the same about Tella for Southampton?

It’s keeping the players fit in the eventuality the summer business doesn’t happen

[daveisaclaret]

You have to love the fanfic on this thread. Half the team being sold and ten different formations prepared, all in different people's minds.

[taio]

You have to love the fanfic on this thread. Half the team being sold and ten different formations prepared, all in different people's minds.

And no bad thing.

[Claretnick]

So completely pointless in playing Twine in the friendlies if that's the case.

Not really, its keeping him fit and in the shop window.
Thinking outside the box I wonder if he could be used as a season loan makeweight with either Coventry or Southampton, especially if the Saints lose, JWP, their free kick specialist. I am probably overthinking like everyone else.

[Hedontplayforyou]

The 35m buy back was in relation to palmer

No it wasn’t . Although could be similar for any Palmer deal.

[Nori1958]

No it wasn’t . Although could be similar for any Palmer deal.

It was in the article I read, but it matters not

[Hedontplayforyou]

It was in the article I read, but it matters not

I’m just referring to the THB info, Palmer could well be the same or similar .

[Guller Bull]

On Palmer

https://www.manchestercity.news/vincent ... r-burnley/

[spt_claret]

Had John Stones before last season?

It's not a full-on CM role, which is why I think it can work.
They don't need the ball playing skills of a proper midfielder, because they are essentially just an extra body who advances through the phases, but without anyone properly tracking them.
And their skill lies mainly in helping break down the opposition counter early, and keeping the pressure high.
I dont know if Beyer could do it.
But he certainly possesses the attributes to make it possible

I think that while it was a weird trend to suggest our CBs move up in the past, Beyer genuinely easily has the ability to play midfield.
His driving runs last season verged on the absurd, it got to the point that every match he'd make a run from his box deep into the opposition half and glide past 2-3 players. He can do it in ways our actual central midfielders can't- I like Brownhill but he's not the sort to do those surging ball carry runs.
I know it's at a lower level doing it in the Championship but the point is, our actual midfielders weren't doing it at that level, Beyer was.
I don't know how we've signed him in honesty. I don't know how he's spent so long going under the radar in Germany, he's a breathtaking player, the only player who I've thought "How have we got HIM!?" like Beyer was Defour.

I've said on another thread that I think out of our midfield and forward options, Gudmundsson is one of the most likely to miss out and therefore perhaps move on.

Can't see that. Fittest he's been in years, can play 4 positions, experienced, technically excellent, has a combination of crossing ability, long shots and set pieces which our other attacking mids don't have (Zaroury's set pieces aren't great, nor are Benson's, Twine hasn't demonstrated the same standard of the other 2 traits, Brownhill's crossing is mediocre and setpieces mediocre).

JBG got written off last season and stepped up. I think he's going to do it again, and even if he's not a regular starter will certainly feature plenty and probably serve a De Bruyne-esque role for us on the pitch, or perhaps a little further back similar to Modric. He's the kind of player you always want in our current system because even if he's not a 9/10 in any role, he's a 7/10 in lots, and this system improves the more fluid you become.

[Rileybobs]

The question would be why would you turn our best defender into our worst midfielder? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[RVclaret]

https://twitter.com/santi_j_fm/status/1 ... 58048?s=46

Bid in for Wilson Odobert, 18 year old striker.

Reading the article it says the bid has been accepted.

[taio]

The question would be why would you turn our best defender into our worst midfielder? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Many people recognise that Beyer is our best centre half with huge potential to do even better. As you say, why when he's got that reputation playing at centre half should he be moved into a different position.

[spt_claret]

The question would be why would you turn our best defender into our worst midfielder? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Not sure he even would be our worst midfielder. Better legs than Cork now and more physical than Bastien.
And it'd be more a case of filling a gap while ensuring we still have as many good players as possible on the pitch. Ekdal, O'Shea and Al Dakhil all look the business at the back, so the argument would be, the loss of Beyer at the back is less than the potential gain of him in midfield.

Not saying I'd do it mind, but that I can see the argument for it if we can't strengthen that position. As has been pointed out Stones made the move and I'd never have thought he could. And Lahm did it too.

[Rileybobs]

Not sure he even would be our worst midfielder. Better legs than Cork now and more physical than Bastien.
And it'd be more a case of filling a gap while ensuring we still have as many good players as possible on the pitch. Ekdal, O'Shea and Al Dakhil all look the business at the back, so the argument would be, the loss of Beyer at the back is less than the potential gain of him in midfield.

Not saying I'd do it mind, but that I can see the argument for it if we can't strengthen that position. As has been pointed out Stones made the move and I'd never have thought he could. And Lahm did it too.

You think Beyer is a better midfielder than Cork? Bonkers.

[Nori1958]

https://twitter.com/santi_j_fm/status/1 ... 58048?s=46

Bid in for Wilson Odobert, 18 year old striker.

Reading the article it says the bid has been accepted.

11m...

[RVclaret]

11m...

Where did you see that? The article didn’t mention a fee.

Edit - ignore me I see it in the actual tweet now

[Rileybobs]

Oh, and comparing Beyer at Burnley with players like Stone who play for the best side in the world and could play the majority of their games without a single recognised defender and in some cases without a goalkeeper is just ridiculous.

[Carwin261]

Many people recognise that Beyer is our best centre half with huge potential to do even better. As you say, why when he's got that reputation playing at centre half should he be moved into a different position.

Pep seems happy to have the likes of Stones playing more of a midfield role than a defender,I’m sure with all the centre backs we have that VK may be thinking along those lines or why would we have 5 ?

[taio]

Pep seems happy to have the likes of Stones playing more of a midfield role than a defender,I’m sure with all the centre backs we have that VK may be thinking along those lines or why would we have 5 ?

You think Beyer our best centre half will be pushed into centre mid? I don't. We'll know soon enough.

[Simps]

https://twitter.com/santi_j_fm/status/1 ... 58048?s=46

Bid in for Wilson Odobert, 18 year old striker.

Reading the article it says the bid has been accepted.

Come back to me saying this at the end of the season - this could be one of the signings of the summer.

Has come through PSG’s academy and represented France at Under 20 level. Guardiola been linked with him in the past as well, he is seriously good

[RVclaret]

Odobert looks a talented lad (to be expected if the suggested fee of €11m is accurate)

https://youtu.be/RQzkbmMvVBQ?si=pf4u0eVnF_cQvkbw