Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Dark Cloud]

Will there be a signing today

On the balance of probability, no.

[RN_Claret]

If you can believe BBC Sport's Gossip page (and why should we, they have mentioned Harry Kane on a daily basis for about 6 weeks now re Bayern) Southampton have turned Liverpool's bid down over Romeo Lavia, they've asked too much for Ward-Prowse for WHU's liking and there is v little intelligence on Tella, possibly suggesting that they are asking too much. Why are Southampton over-pricing their players? Are they comfortable enough financially to hang on to their squad? Are they taking a risky strategy?

[Newcastleclaret93]

If you can believe BBC Sport's Gossip page (and why should we, they have mentioned Harry Kane on a daily basis for about 6 weeks now re Bayern) Southampton have turned Liverpool's bid down over Romeo Lavia, they've asked too much for Ward-Prowse for WHU's liking and there is v little intelligence on Tella, possibly suggesting that they are asking too much. Why are Southampton over-pricing their players? Are they comfortable enough financially to hang on to their squad? Are they taking a risky strategy?

Tbf they don’t need to the money by the looks of it. They only need to sell Lavia, which looks like a matter of time and they will have generated north of 80m this window.

[NewClaret]

Why are Southampton over-pricing their players? Are they comfortable enough financially to hang on to their squad? Are they taking a risky strategy?

Good question(s).

Confess to knowing very little about Southampton’s finances - maybe CP can fill us in - but since they spent so heavily in January I can only imagine that selling players is a must and they’ll be in big trouble if they don’t. Even continuing to pay their salaries during the summer must be a struggle, you’d think?

Fair play to them for holding out, but they’re either richer than I thought or taking some big risks.

[Firthy]

I think the ship has sailed on Tella, Flemming, Hamer, Maatsen and Vranckx. I'm expecting Lokonga and a LB but nothing much beyond that.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think the ship has sailed on Tella, Flemming, Hamer, Maatsen and Vranckx. I'm expecting Lokonga and a LB but nothing much beyond that.

I think if you add Ramsey to that, that is as close to a ten out of ten window you can get

[NewClaret]

Tbf they don’t need to the money by the looks of it. They only need to sell Lavia, which looks like a matter of time and they will have generated north of 80m this window.

Who else have they sold?

[ArmchairDetective]

I too think a CM and LB are the only real essentials. But didn't we bid on a winger playing in France a couple of days ago?

From what I've heard about our approach to transfers in that we strengthen wherever we can whenever we can, I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple more new faces come in than is necessary. Can't harm to bring in more if the money is there.

[ArmchairDetective]

On Southampton - we would hope to do the exact same if we went down. Sell high or keep a strong squad in the Championship. Fair play to them.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Good question(s).

Confess to knowing very little about Southampton’s finances - maybe CP can fill us in - but since they spent so heavily in January I can only imagine that selling players is a must and they’ll be in big trouble if they don’t. Even continuing to pay their salaries during the summer must be a struggle, you’d think?

Fair play to them for holding out, but they’re either richer than I thought or taking some big risks.

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Recent accounts but a lot will depend on if they’ve got relegation clauses etc

[Andy_G]

Post the Nixon link

Or else?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Who else have they sold?

Salisu for 17m, Orsic 3m,

Apparantly rejected a bit worth just over 50m for Lavia. If they get the 60m they are after that’s the 80m this summer.

If I was a betting man I would expect there only outgoings now to be JWP and Lavia

[agreenwood]

Southampton’s owner is hugely wealthy. As long as they stay the right side of FFP, they won’t need to sell.

[kentonclaret]

Salisu for 17m, Orsic 3m,

Apparantly rejected a bit worth just over 50m for Lavia. If they get the 60m they are after that’s the 80m this summer.

If I was a betting man I would expect there only outgoings now to be JWP and Lavia

Everton are (reportedly) trying to sign Che Adams and Suleman and I expect Ward Prowse to join West Ham with David Moyes under great pressure to strengthen the squad with no incomings since the departure of Rice.
Several of the top 6 clubs chasing Lavia so can’t blame them for holding out for big bucks.

[Pearcey]

Southampton could come unstuck if the players in question are priced out of a move. You only have to look at Mitrovic at Fulham.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Everton are (reportedly) trying to sign Che Adams and Suleman and I expect Ward Prowse to join West Ham with David Moyes under great pressure to strengthen the squad with no incomings since the departure of Rice.
Several of the top 6 clubs chasing Lavia so can’t blame them for holding out for big bucks.

Apparently West Ham have pulled out of the JWP deal.

But I do expect someone to come in and sign him. He’s far too good for the championship.

[Colburn_Claret]

Apparently West Ham have pulled out of the JWP deal.

But I do expect someone to come in and sign him. He’s far too good for the championship.

Depends how much they are wanting though.
We all agree he's a good player, but at his age he has to have a limit on his value. Personally I'm not surprised WHU pulled out, there won't be a crush trying to replace them. Lavia and Tella are different matters though. They'll probably get the money they want for Lavia, in the end, and I wouldn't have sold Tella, for what we are rumoured to have offered.

[kentonclaret]

Apparently West Ham have pulled out of the JWP deal.

But I do expect someone to come in and sign him. He’s far too good for the championship.

Don’t be surprised if WHU go back with a “take it or leave it” Final Offer. As I said David Moyes under great pressure to strengthen with zero incomings thus far having sold their prize asset. Moyes would probably have already been replaced if it had not been for Europa Cup win.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Depends how much they are wanting though.
We all agree he's a good player, but at his age he has to have a limit on his value. Personally I'm not surprised WHU pulled out, there won't be a crush trying to replace them. Lavia and Tella are different matters though. They'll probably get the money they want for Lavia, in the end, and I wouldn't have sold Tella, for what we are rumoured to have offered.

Not sure they will sell Tella now. Apart from us there appears to be absolutely zero interest in him. They are unlikely to get the bidding war they need to get the price up.

Makes better financial sense for them to keep him and try get promoted

[Elizabeth]

Not sure they will sell Tella now. Apart from us there appears to be absolutely zero interest in him. They are unlikely to get the bidding war they need to get the price up.

Makes better financial sense for them to keep him and try get promoted

Don't think we can rule anything out or in at the moment. There are so many interconnected permutations between clubs it's a waiting game, some will happen, some wont

[Swizzlestick]

West Ham fans absolutely furious with their summer window as you'd expect - big money in for their star player, but signed nobody. Ajax have sabotaged a deal for Borges from City and not wanting to pay up for Ward Prowse. Expect a couple of panic signings.

[Hipper]

Salisu for 17m, Orsic 3m,

Apparantly rejected a bit worth just over 50m for Lavia. If they get the 60m they are after that’s the 80m this summer.

If I was a betting man I would expect there only outgoings now to be JWP and Lavia

Lavia, ex Man City player therefore likely sell on clause with City.

[claretburns]

Deniz Undav is in Germany to finalise a move to Stuttgart, didn't we make a move for him in January?

[Dark Cloud]

Whilst many players at S'ton may well be on silly wages due to several years of PL football, Tella probably isn't one of them so offloading him from the wage bill probably isn't a priority.

[Big Vinny K]

West Ham fans absolutely furious with their summer window as you'd expect - big money in for their star player, but signed nobody. Ajax have sabotaged a deal for Borges from City and not wanting to pay up for Ward Prowse. Expect a couple of panic signings.

West Ham tipped up by a professional betting punter who specialises in English football as a great value bet to be relegated. It was available at around 10/1 but he tipped them at the start of this week on the Racing Post season preview show which has a big audience so odds might have come in now.

[Firthy]

West Ham fans absolutely furious with their summer window as you'd expect - big money in for their star player, but signed nobody. Ajax have sabotaged a deal for Borges from City and not wanting to pay up for Ward Prowse. Expect a couple of panic signings.

And little old Burnley might scupper their interest in Hartman. Love to read their board if that happens

[NorthIsCool]

West Ham tipped up by a professional betting punter who specialises in English football as a great value bet to be relegated. It was available at around 10/1 but he tipped them at the start of this week on the Racing Post season preview show which has a big audience so odds might have come in now.

Currently 12/1 to be relegated on Bet365

[Commy]

From what I have seen Tella hasn't pulled up any trees in their friendlies. He has been played in different positions but doesn't seem to get involved like he did with us. It might be that their style of play doesn't suit him.

[Steddyman]

From what I have seen Tella hasn't pulled up any trees in their friendlies. He has been played in different positions but doesn't seem to get involved like he did with us. It might be that their style of play doesn't suit him.

That or is heart isn't in it, so he isn't at his dynamic best. Either that or he is trying to avoid an injury until the window shuts

[RVclaret]

Looks like Bournemouth could be signing Newcastleclaret’s favourite Alex Scott for £25m. A few had them possibly going down this season but I’m not sure on that.

[ArmchairDetective]

No idea about the source but apparently our offer for Boey is worth 20m euros.

https://twitter.com/skorerrcom/status/1 ... spv7w&s=19

[claretlegend]

Reports in Turkey say we've increased our offer for Boey to €20 plus add ons.

[burnley007]

Reports in Turkey say we've increased our offer for Boey to €20 plus add ons.

That would have been Garlick's opening bid.

[burnley007]

No idea about the source but apparently our offer for Boey is worth 20m euros.

https://twitter.com/skorerrcom/status/1 ... spv7w&s=19

Crazy times

[warksclaret]

Crazy times

Heard one of our sponsors might be the Bank Of Dave

[Newcastleclaret93]

Looks like Bournemouth could be signing Newcastleclaret’s favourite Alex Scott for £25m. A few had them possibly going down this season but I’m not sure on that.

I would have absolutely loved him here

[4midable]

Top half finish at 8s
Some spending going down

[gandhisflipflop]

West Ham fans absolutely furious with their summer window as you'd expect - big money in for their star player, but signed nobody. Ajax have sabotaged a deal for Borges from City and not wanting to pay up for Ward Prowse. Expect a couple of panic signings.

They could be surprise candidates for relegation. They have all the hallmarks. A club with a detached fan base not replacing key players, a poor season last season league wise. I think they will be ok as they’ll spend their way out in Jan if need be but the signs aren’t good for them. It could be them and Everton in a battle this year

[Rumbletonk]

Is it a worry that we must be aiming in some positions for a player/s way now the orginial want list we must have put together maybe mid/late April ?? Or is that just football

Eh?

[123EasyasBFC]

I don’t know if I see us spending potentially
15mil - boey
15mil - hartman
10mil + - Ramsey
10mil + - Tella

Especially without any sales

[Woodleyclaret]

We made a profit from sales last year buying bargains and selling Nick.Dwight.Cornet also we got place money for finishing top.We we always being televised and got a serious wedge for actually going up .

[Woodleyclaret]

So once more criticism of our previous regime is censored ?

[Big Vinny K]

We made a profit from sales last year buying bargains and selling Nick.Dwight.Cornet also we got place money for finishing top.We we always being televised and got a serious wedge for actually going up .

The way we dealt with the funds from players sales is a lot more complicated than what you are suggesting. It’s well reported we took advances on these via factoring facilities etc.

In terms of television appearances and prize money earned last year for winning the league its very little. A fraction of what you get in Premier League.

Of course our money goes up significantly in the Premier League but so do our costs (mainly wages).

I would be interested in how we are funding this amount of spend in the transfer market and the kind of fees being talked about. It’s exciting to see as the types of players we are buying look like those with potential to increase their value in the future if we develop them like we did with a lot of the team last year. It’s a very different model than spending £20m money on a 28 or 29 year old player on a 4 year contract when we may be buying him at the peak of his value.

So the interesting part will be how we fund this strategy in the short term (next couple of years) and effectively before we start to sell and make profit on some of the players we have brought in under VK.

[Murger]

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So who are we after? Is it Aaron or Jacob Ramsey?

[Pearcey]

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So who are we after? Is it Aaron or Jacob Ramsey?

Aaron

[123EasyasBFC]

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So who are we after? Is it Aaron or Jacob Ramsey?

As the report says Aaron Ramsey I would assume we are after Aaron Ramsey

[Murger]

As the report says Aaron Ramsey I would assume we are after Aaron Ramsey

Well the screenshot says Jacob.

[123EasyasBFC]

Well the screenshot says Jacob.

Every single report from last night mentioned on here and all over social media said Aaron

[jedi_master]

I’ll be well happy if we get Boey.

[Murger]

Every single report from last night mentioned on here and all over social media said Aaron

Yeah, it looks like a spelling mistake.