Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[claretburns]

Daramy deal agreed loan with obligation to buy for €15m

Wow, when I first saw this link I thought paper talk, of all the signings so far this is the one I am most excited about.

[Goalposts]

Just a little Caution as personal terms are yet to be agreed,

[mdd2]

There is many a slip between cup and lip

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Next summer's cheddar though, more money to spend on a left back and striker this summer.

It’s quite a smart move, we then get to spread the transfer payments starting from next year

[RVclaret]

Greek journo reporting we’ve had a 17m euros offer rejected for Levi Garcia from AEK Athens

[ClaretAL]

Is this the same Daramy? Seems to play left wing?

https://youtu.be/Qh4a2mALn60

[claretandy]

Greek journo reporting we’ve had a 17m euros offer rejected for Levi Garcia from AEK Athens

He's just signed a new contract and they want 35m.

[Fretters]

Wow, when I first saw this link I thought paper talk, of all the signings so far this is the one I am most excited about.

Interesting you say that, I know nothing about him. Should we all be excited by this one?

[northeastclaret]

Greek journo reporting we’ve had a 17m euros offer rejected for Levi Garcia from AEK Athens

Might as well be Levi Stubbs for the amount of truth in the link

[jedi_master]

I can barely contain the excitement at all this - it’s nuts. Can’t wait to see all these players.

[IanMcL]

Surely we must be selling or paying pennies in wages?

[arise_sir_charge]

Might as well be Levi Stubbs for the amount of truth in the link

Northeast is proper struggling with our new approach

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Load up early. Stay up. Bit like Forest but more controlled / better prices in.

Spread payments but offload a sale or too Jan and end of season of the big successes (unfort).

If Benny smashes it that will be £30m plus as an example.

Can’t leave it too long. See Wolves. Will be hard for them this year.

Reckon that’s the strategy.

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[GodIsADeeJay81]

Load up early. Stay up. Bit like Forest but more controlled / better prices in.

Spread payments but offload a sale or too Jan and end of season of the big successes (unfort).

If Benny smashes it that will be £30m plus as an example.

Can’t leave it too long. See Wolves. Will be hard for them this year.

Reckon that’s the strategy.

UTC

Valuing our players highly isn’t the done thing on here
Some people are going to be in for a shock when we regularly start getting in fees of £20 million + for players

[whiffa]

Load up early. Stay up. Bit like Forest but more controlled / better prices in.

Spread payments but offload a sale or too Jan and end of season of the big successes (unfort).

If Benny smashes it that will be £30m plus as an example.

Can’t leave it too long. See Wolves. Will be hard for them this year.

Reckon that’s the strategy.

UTC

I think it's more likely that by January VK will know which players are less likely to feature or be in his plans and we sell those, rather than any "Golden Geese"

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Liquidity from debt brings both risk and reward. Like in many a business sector. So far the signs are good.

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[123EasyasBFC]

Daramy would have to be registered in the squad due to being a loan signing

[jedi_master]

Liquidity from debt brings both risk and reward. Like in many a business sector. So far the signs are good.

UTC

I am generally a very risk averse person but the security here is the age/profile of who we’re signing. If the worst was to occur we’d likely have a very valuable team based on potential alone. When you consider our last relegation we made around £70m from sales despite the comparative age of the squad, it feels a good strategy to me.

[Tricky Trevor]

Ramsey getting injured could have cost Boro the play-offs. He was playing excellent before then. Made his debut on Feb15th and in 11 games scored 5 + assists

[northeastclaret]

Northeast is proper struggling with our new approach

I would if there was anything in the majority of the links but it’s like fantasy football league. I must admit though most people do seem to enjoy the multiple fantasies, which they are obviously perfectly entitled to

[randomclaret2]

More on Daramy from Fabrizio Romano...

◉ Fee discussed verbally: €15.5m plus €2m add-ons plus 10% sell-on clause.

◉ Ajax & Burnley waiting for player’s decision and final steps, not done yet.

◉ It’s a permanent transfer — just with different structure due to Financial Fair Play.

[ClaretAL]

I am generally a very risk averse person but the security here is the age/profile of who we’re signing. If the worst was to occur we’d likely have a very valuable team based on potential alone. When you consider our last relegation we made around £70m from sales despite the comparative age of the squad, it feels a good strategy to me.

I agree with this. My only concern is due to the amount of players in the squad that could all be classed as starters, the you would presume rotation will mean less exposure, where as those we sold on relegation were playing pretty much every game as we had no depth in the squad, so maximum exposure.

[Firthy]

So we could be looking at Ramsey, Daramy, Lokonga, Hartman/Fernandez and another striker and CH. That's mad with the numbers we already have. Definitely going to be a few going out on loan or transferred.

No doubt someone on here will complain about a lack of signings but it's an interesting window, hardly a day goes by without something knew. Obviously down to our scattergun approach

[DCWat]

Ramsey getting injured could have cost Boro the play-offs. He was playing excellent before then. Made his debut on Feb15th and in 11 games scored 5 + assists

I read a couple of comments on the Villa forum suggesting that Aaron had more potential than Jacob.

That would be great if true as Jacob Ramsey looks a real talent.

[RicardoMontalban]

I would if there was anything in the majority of the links but it’s like fantasy football league. I must admit though most people do seem to enjoy the multiple fantasies, which they are obviously perfectly entitled to

How do you know there is nothing in the majority of links?

[123EasyasBFC]

So we could be looking at Ramsey, Daramy, Lokonga, Hartman/Fernandez and another striker and CH. That's mad with the numbers we already have. Definitely going to be a few going out on loan or transferred.

No doubt someone on here will complain about a lack of signings but it's an interesting window, hardly a day goes by without something knew. Obviously down to our scattergun approach

Add tella and Townsend to that to

[Firthy]

Add tella and Townsend to that to

Would love to agree with you but I think the boat has sailed on Tella.

[claretblue]

Burnley reach agreement with Ajax for left winger Mohamed Daramy. Proposed deal a loan + obligation worth ~€15m + bonuses + sell-on. [David Ornstein]

[Goalposts]

Wout weighorst on loan to Roma , will be confirmed next 24hrs

[123EasyasBFC]

Wout weighorst on loan to Roma , will be confirmed next 24hrs

From an account with no substance

[willsclarets]

I'm so confused about the number of wingers we're signing!

[Rileybobs]

I'm so confused about the number of wingers we're signing!

We’re playing on an octagonal shaped pitch this season.

[Steddyman]

I'm so confused about the number of wingers we're signing!

We are going to ask the Premier League to make all matches 2 x 60 mins, and play a different 11 each half.

[123EasyasBFC]

Don’t understand when people say ‘why are spending 15m on Daramy when we could just get tella’ it’s clear that kompany and the club think Daramy has more sell on value being 21 than tella does being 24

[Burnley1989]

Or they just think he’s a better player? I’m sure that’s priority over what we can sell him at

[Rileybobs]

Or they just think he’s a better player? I’m sure that’s priority over what we can sell him at

Exactly. The club will know that for the mooted £20m we can sign a better player than Tella. I get that he had a good season with us and he seems like a great lad but the obsession with him is a bit OTT.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Southampton are obviously in a good financial position so they're not budging on prices for their top players.

Makes sense to get the young players in quickly so they can gel. Pay for them over 3/4 years while getting some income from the odd sale. FFP is a game and we are playing it for the first time.

[Rileybobs]

Southampton are obviously in a good financial position so they're not budging on prices for their top players.

Makes sense to get the young players in quickly so they can gel. Pay for them over 3/4 years while getting some income from the odd sale. FFP is a game and we are playing it for the first time.

The difference of course is that we are having to significantly strengthen this summer due to the significant weakening we went through last summer. But I agree with your point about splitting the transfer cost over the next few seasons as if things go to plan then we won’t need to improve the squad to anything like this degree over the next few summers - so the spending now is essentially for the next few seasons, not just this one.

[Spiral]

I know that LW/RW doesn't matter too much when you're thinking about how to deploy a winger because you can have them swapped around doing things, but strictly speaking, even though he's a right footer, Daramy has played left wing, not right, like where Tella plays, so maybe Daramy is competition for Zaroury? Odobert (if he's considered to be near the first team) plays RW mainly, so maybe he's the one to replace Tella when Benny isn't playing?

[Mattster]

Don’t understand when people say ‘why are spending 15m on Daramy when we could just get tella’ it’s clear that kompany and the club think Daramy has more sell on value being 21 than tella does being 24

Think it’s more a case of we can defer paying for Daramy to next summer by making it a loan with an obligation unlike Tella.

[123EasyasBFC]

Wout weighorst on loan to Roma , will be confirmed next 24hrs

Weghorst not in squad today so you could be right

[warksclaret]

Southampton will be under huge pressure to go up. Know they won last night but theres 6 or 7 very good teams in the PL, and they wont be as dominant as we were. There will be times when their manager Matin comes under pressure-until now he has always been a mid table manager in the Championship despite his footballing style. That wont be enough for the new owners. Be interesting to see who goes this window-suspect 4 or 5 of their better players will leave

[willsclarets]

Weghorst not in squad today so you could be right

Slightly gutted about this. He has qualities we don't have much of otherwise. Was really hoping he'd stay.

[arise_sir_charge]

All those who keep going on about wingers.

We’ve a 12 man bench with one natural winger in it today. Only Benson who would play there missing. That’s why we are still after more.

[RVclaret]

All those who keep going on about wingers.

We’ve a 12 man bench with one natural winger in it today. Only Benson who would play there missing. That’s why we are still after more.

The assumption was we’d be signing Townsend but he’s an obvious omission today.

[123EasyasBFC]

No Townsend in the squad is strange unless he’s decided he has a better offer elsewhere

[Conroysleftfoot]

Think it’s more a case of we can defer paying for Daramy to next summer by making it a loan with an obligation unlike Tella.

That's a good point.

[dermotdermot]

Slightly gutted about this. He has qualities we don't have much of otherwise. Was really hoping he'd stay.

This news has made my day.

[spt_claret]

Slightly gutted about this. He has qualities we don't have much of otherwise. Was really hoping he'd stay.

Fully agree. I think we have a gap in the striker role currently:
Foster could well come good and I'm backing him to improve, his recent public comments about his mental health suggest to me he's in a better place now so hopefully steps up. But he is still very much an unknown quantity, especially at PL level, and while it is 100% understandable in hindsight, he struggled last season a tier lower. I'm backing him but we need an alternative.

Jay is past it for the Prem, no amount of Claret tinted specs can disguise that.
Obafemi is out for a long time and also not really a centre forward/number 9/false 9.
Amdouni seems more of a deep forward/atatcking mid/'number 10'.
I know Weghorst is persona non grata with a lot of fans and his goal record in the PL hasn't been great, but his career prior to that has excellent pedigree and his playstyle and attributes suggest to me he could do everything Barnes did for us last season, but better- he IS a better player than Barnes no matter the difference in their contributions to Burnley's success.
Be a shame to see him go. But looks certain.

[Pickles]

All those who keep going on about wingers.

We’ve a 12 man bench with one natural winger in it today. Only Benson who would play there missing. That’s why we are still after more.

I've written a few times on here in the last week or so how bemusing I find the fuss people are making about the amount of wingers we've been linked to. We absolutely need more depth in those positions. Not surprised whatsoever we seem very keen to bring in more options.