Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:16 pm

Update from Nixon re. Berge that basically the deal is on. He is suggesting it’s a £12m fee. Also sounds like the Blades will snap up Souza.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:24 pm

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:12 pm
Even with the sale of Ndiaye, they may need to sell Berge before replacing him, so not sure if that scenario fits.

They were in a mess last season and not sure promotion has done anything to relieve that.

Aren't the owners still trying to sell up. A bit like MG not wanting to spend when selling up.
The shyster from Africa who thought he owned an airline has screwed them over badly. They pinned all their hopes on that, and it was a crock of ****.
Still every cloud has a silver lining, only the silver lining is for us, not them.

davideyresleftear · Post by **davideyresleftear** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:27 pm

I was actually quite excited by Daramy, but now that it looks unlikely he’s rubbish and I hate him.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:29 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:16 pm
Update from Nixon re. Berge that basically the deal is on. He is suggesting it’s a £12m fee. Also sounds like the Blades will snap up Souza.

Why does it sound like they'll get Souza, have you heard something

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:29 pm

davideyresleftear wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:27 pm
I was actually quite excited by Daramy, but now that it looks unlikely he’s rubbish and I hate him.

File him under ‘clearly not good enough’ and ‘lucky escape’.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:30 pm

Firthy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:29 pm
Why does it sound like they'll get Souza, have you heard something

That was in the same article Nixon published.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:30 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:29 pm
File him under ‘clearly not good enough’ and ‘lucky escape’.

And “questionable first touch”… from what I’ve read!

davideyresleftear · Post by **davideyresleftear** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:42 pm

He’s a bad apple lacking Burnley fitness

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:42 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:47 pm
It’s on sky now so I have more faith.
IMG_3655.jpeg

They copied it from Nixon, he broke it.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:42 pm

davideyresleftear wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:27 pm
I was actually quite excited by Daramy, but now that it looks unlikely he’s rubbish and I hate him.

My thoughts exactly

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:45 pm

Daramy sounds a bit of a cowboy to me

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:46 pm

This Berge transfer has a Wood to Newcastle feel about it

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:50 pm

i'm happy about Berge, plenty of experience in the PL which is important given the rest of what will likely be the starting 11

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:58 pm

Guller Bull wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:01 pm
Sali Ucan - Besiktas link

https://turkish-football.com/watford-bu ... alih-ucan/

Brownhill replacement?.......this guy misses the goal too, but gets it closer.
I'd be surprised by this one.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:50 pm
i'm happy about Berge, plenty of experience in the PL which is important given the rest of what will likely be the starting 11

300 or so first team appearances, but only 29 of those in the Premier League

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:05 pm

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:03 pm
300 or so first team appearances, but only 29 of those in the Premier League

so 29 more than 90% of our squad then, pretty much represents a full season

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:13 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:05 pm
so 29 more than 90% of our squad then, pretty much represents a full season

We could go the other way and say that he has played 17 times in European competitions, 6 Champions League & 11 Europa League, and in most of them he played the full 90 minutes.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:17 pm

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:13 pm
We could go the other way and say that he has played 17 times in European competitions, 6 Champions League & 11 Europa League, and in most of them he played the full 90 minutes.

I didn't know he'd played in the CL tbh !

beeholeclaret · Post by **beeholeclaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:19 pm

BigChaCha wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:21 am
A blind man on a galloping horse can see that we have had a poor window so far overall and that VK and the recruitment team really have to pull something out of the bag in the remainder of the transfer window!...

We have one of the weakest set of strikers in the league (Can't see many of them getting more than 5 goals)...

We have one of, if not the weakest set of central midfielders in the league...

We still haven't signed a left-back...

We haven't replaced THB's leadership and organisational skills...

We have less pace and a proven goal threat than last season!

We will survive but it has been a wasted transfer window so far.

A certain "blind man on a galloping horse" obviously didnt see our transfer business in the summer of 2020

Ins & Outs at Burnley - summer 2020

Will Norris (undisclosed, Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Dale Stephens (£1m, Brighton & Hove Albion)
Anthony Gomez Mancini (loan, Angers)
Richard Nartey (free, unattached)

Out
Joe Hart (free, Tottenham Hotspur)
Jeff Hendrick (free, Newcastle United)
Adam Legzdins (released)
Aaron Lennon (released)
Ryan Cooney (loan, Morecambe)
Adam Phillips (loan, Morecambe)
Ben Gibson (loan, Norwich City)
Scott Wilson (free, Barrow)
Aiden O'Neill (free, Melbourne City)
Rhys Fenlon (free, Accrington Stanley)

Burnley total spent to date: £1m
Burnley total received to date: £0

Burnley net transfer balance: -£1m

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:42 pm

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Blades not happy

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:57 pm

They have some charming fans reading some of their comments

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:14 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:57 pm
They have some charming fans reading some of their comments

Can you blame them, it would be no different on here if we sold Benson and then Cullen to them without signing anyone. I have a bit of sympathy for them as fans just like us who both love our clubs.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:18 pm

Zom Zom wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:46 pm
This Berge transfer has a Wood to Newcastle feel about it

Nothing like wood. Berge is good.

sjb · Post by **sjb** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:20 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:18 pm
Nothing like wood. Berge is good.

Norwegian Wood?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:20 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:18 pm
Nothing like wood. Berge is good.

Wood, one of only six players to get double figures in four consecutive seasons in the Prem

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:22 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:20 pm
Wood, one of only six players to get double figures in four consecutive seasons in the Prem

It seems the forest and Newcastle fans have seen the light.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:27 pm

Good goal scorer when on form, but an absolute rotten footballer.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:31 pm

Averaged 12 goals a season not too shabby

Gp8419 · Post by **Gp8419** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:34 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:22 pm
It seems the forest and Newcastle fans have seen the light.

I don’t give a crap what they say! Was bloody good for Burnley when we really needed him. He was a good premier league striker for 3 seasons are so no doubt about it.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:45 pm

The thing with Wood is he played in a team that was built around getting the most out of the strikers returns. Accomodating him in this style often stifled the rest of the team and when Wood wasn't scoring, it was difficult to see what he was offering.

We are much better balanced having goals come from all over the pitch. For once I am not concerned with one striker carrying us to safety with 10+ goals as they will come from all over the field.

In this respect I think we are playing 'moneyball' closer than people realise this season.
The numerous signings and links out wide, some at a young enough age that they don't have to be registered with the squad but can be used. Some of these players that in there careers have only played handfuls of games for there clubs but contributed goals and assists. There could be some moneyball logic in statistically them offering together over a full season the sort of returns that negate the need for a 10+ goal a season striker.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:47 pm

Conroy92 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:45 pm
The thing with Wood is he played in a team that was built around getting the most out of the strikers returns. Accomodating him in this style often stifled the rest of the team and when Wood wasn't scoring, it was difficult to see what he was offering.

We are much better balanced having goals come from all over the pitch. For once I am not concerned with one striker carrying us to safety with 10+ goals as they will come from all over the field.

In this respect I think we are playing 'moneyball' closer than people realise this season.
The numerous signings and links out wide, some at a young enough age that they don't have to be registered with the squad but can be used. Some of these players that in there careers have only played handfuls of games for there clubs but contributed goals and assists. There could be some moneyball logic in statistically them offering together over a full season the sort of returns that negate the need for a 10+ goal a season striker.

Spot on

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:55 pm

Berge deal almost done for 12 million according to Nixon. £40k per week contract.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:55 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:55 pm
Berge deal almost done for 12 million according to Nixon. £40k per week contract.

Wow!

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:01 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:55 pm
Berge deal almost done for 12 million according to Nixon. £40k per week contract.

Surely Sheff Utd would have offered him them sort of wages, more fool them.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:02 pm

CnBtruntru wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:01 pm
Surely Sheff Utd would have offered him them sort of wages, more fool them.

Certainly less than our top earners were on even 2 or 3 seasons ago

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:02 pm

Didn't they want about £25M for him 12 months ago

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:03 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:55 pm
Berge deal almost done for 12 million according to Nixon. £40k per week contract.

I’ll believe it when I see it, what with all the so-called in the knows claiming numerous other ‘imminent’ signings only to find their suggestions were built on a house of cards so to speak.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm

Guller Bull wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:01 pm
Sali Ucan - Besiktas link

https://turkish-football.com/watford-bu ... alih-ucan/

Swap with Weghorst

Flying Without Ings · Post by **Flying Without Ings** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:06 pm

mkmel wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:02 pm
Didn't they want about £25M for him 12 months ago

Can’t recall the price quoted but I’m sure Liverpool were sniffing around not too long ago.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:08 pm

What’s happened to the Ramsey deal?

dcunningham27 · Post by **dcunningham27** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:09 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:08 pm
What’s happened to the Ramsey deal?

Last we heard player had to agree personal terms for the buy back deal which seemed strange not heard anything since then

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:11 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:55 pm
Berge deal almost done for 12 million according to Nixon. £40k per week contract.

Well I did not expect this when I woke up this morning!

bpgburn · Post by **bpgburn** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:12 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:11 pm
Well I did not expect this when I woke up this morning!

Nowts happened yet...

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:13 pm

Southampton turned down a third bid from Liverpool of £46m for Lavia so any thoughts of getting Tella for less than £20m have gone.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:25 pm

Seem to recall there was significant interest in Berge when United got relegated - their financial position then was probably better than it is now

Once this story broke looks like we felt the need to act quickly - according to Blades fans - who weren't expecting the sale - they assumed once it became known he was available for £12M other clubs - like West Ham for example - would be in for him

Excellent work by the club if they can get this one over the line

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm

Seems like a great signing on the face of it, and straight out of left field. It does make me wonder what Sheff Utd’s motive for selling is though, particularly to a rival who you would assume can afford to pay their players similarly to ours.

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:37 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:08 pm
What’s happened to the Ramsey deal?

Advanced talkes according to the latest BBC article.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:37 pm

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:37 pm
Advanced talkes according to the latest BBC article.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66431509

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:43 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm
Seems like a great signing on the face of it, and straight out of left field. It does make me wonder what Sheff Utd’s motive for selling is though, particularly to a rival who you would assume can afford to pay their players similarly to ours.

Apparently only 12 months left on his contract, but very much like the Tarky situation here a couple of years back, surely better for Sheffield to forego the £12? million now and hope he plays a significant part in keeping them in the PL and all the riches that entails. Then let him walk at the end of the season if that's his wish. Feels weird to me, unless they are unbelievably hard up.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:54 pm

Seems like they are not prepared to allow players to run down their contracts - Heckingbottom said they accepted Marseille's offer for Ndiaye because he had less than 12 months left on on his contract and they didn't want him to walk away for nothing next summer

It does suggest a serious cash-flow problem

Can only assume we've structured the proposed deal in such a way that we're making a significant payment up-front

Perhaps it is linked to Vinicius Souza and United will land him this week