Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[warksclaret]

Apparently only 12 months left on his contract, but very much like the Tarky situation here a couple of years back, surely better for Sheffield to forego the £12? million now and hope he plays a significant part in keeping them in the PL and all the riches that entails. Then let him walk at the end of the season if that's his wish. Feels weird to me, unless they are unbelievably hard up.

Depends if he wants to stay and play. Tarks was honourable and still gave his all in that last season. Reading what the SU fans were saying earlier, Berge has not looked happy in their recent friendlies

[Andreshotboots]

Apparently only 12 months left on his contract, but very much like the Tarky situation here a couple of years back, surely better for Sheffield to forego the £12? million now and hope he plays a significant part in keeping them in the PL and all the riches that entails. Then let him walk at the end of the season if that's his wish. Feels weird to me, unless they are unbelievably hard up.

Maybe the player has intimated he's not prepared to risk a big, long term deal by playing for them for another year..

The more about I think of Tarky, the more I respect him. He gave every ounce to try and keep us up two two seasons ago knowing he was off to a lucrative deal..

[Rileybobs]

Seems like they are not prepared to allow players to run down their contracts - Heckingbottom said they accepted Marseille's offer for Ndiaye because he had less than 12 months left on on his contract and they didn't want him to walk away for nothing next summer

It does suggest a serious cash-flow problem

Can only assume we've structured the proposed deal in such a way that we're making a significant payment up-front

Perhaps it is linked to Vinicius Souza and United will land him this week

Which raises another question why they didn’t want to renew his contract - unless they did and he wanted to move on?

[Casper2]

Depends if he wants to stay and play. Tarks was honourable and still gave his all in that last season. Reading what the SU fans were saying earlier, Berge has not looked happy in their recent friendlies

Not looked happy , like Tella ?

[taio]

Which raises another question why they didn’t want to renew his contract - unless they did and he wanted to move on?

Yes he wants to move on

[Pearcey]

I’d be delighted with Berge but it’s hard to believe Sheff U are willing to sell. He was linked with the likes of Arsenal not long ago. Hope it happens.

[Rileybobs]

Yes he wants to move on

Fair enough, any idea why? I know he was linked with some big clubs over the past couple of seasons but this is very much a sideways (perhaps a slight upward incline) move for him, although maybe we’re prepared to pay him more.

[claretspice]

I think that if there's a question mark over Berge, it's not so much why are Sheff Utd selling, but more why is noone else in for him at £12-15m in a market when Scott McTominay is being touted for £40m. Sheff Utd want every penny for him and clearly they've failed to get an auction going even at a comparatively modest price. If Nixon is right the wages aren't that big a problem for most clubs these days either.

I assume the answer to that is he's had 3 pretty indifferent years at Sheff Utd either playing in the Championship or being relegated, quite possibly playing in a team that have not generally played to his strengths. But still it's a bit of a fall for a player who was being linked with top 6 clubs when he surprisingly landed at Bramall Lane and it does beg the question are we all missing something the professionals are not.

[Tricky Trevor]

Surely Sheff Utd would have offered him them sort of wages, more fool them.

Last year of contract and that is one club that can’t afford to let players walk for free.

[Tricky Trevor]

Can’t recall the price quoted but I’m sure Liverpool were sniffing around not too long ago.

At the end of his first PL season.

[CnBtruntru]

I think that if there's a question mark over Berge, it's not so much why are Sheff Utd selling, but more why is noone else in for him at £12-15m in a market when Scott McTominay is being touted for £40m. Sheff Utd want every penny for him and clearly they've failed to get an auction going even at a comparatively modest price. If Nixon is right the wages aren't that big a problem for most clubs these days either.

I assume the answer to that is he's had 3 pretty indifferent years at Sheff Utd either playing in the Championship or being relegated, quite possibly playing in a team that have not generally played to his strengths. But still it's a bit of a fall for a player who was being linked with top 6 clubs when he surprisingly landed at Bramall Lane and it does beg the question are we all missing something the professionals are not.

Yep, he's a closet Burnley fan, it will all come out in the wash.

[Vegas Claret]

But still it's a bit of a fall for a player who was being linked with top 6 clubs when he surprisingly landed at Bramall Lane and it does beg the question are we all missing something the professionals are not.

maybe that's one of the things we are selling to him - come and play in a team that plays to your strength and if you do well we will sell you to a bigger club

[ksrclaret]

I think that if there's a question mark over Berge, it's not so much why are Sheff Utd selling, but more why is noone else in for him at £12-15m in a market when Scott McTominay is being touted for £40m. Sheff Utd want every penny for him and clearly they've failed to get an auction going even at a comparatively modest price. If Nixon is right the wages aren't that big a problem for most clubs these days either.

I assume the answer to that is he's had 3 pretty indifferent years at Sheff Utd either playing in the Championship or being relegated, quite possibly playing in a team that have not generally played to his strengths. But still it's a bit of a fall for a player who was being linked with top 6 clubs when he surprisingly landed at Bramall Lane and it does beg the question are we all missing something the professionals are not.

Don’t understand that last comment. Are we not a professional club?

[claretandy]

I’d be delighted with Berge but it’s hard to believe Sheff U are willing to sell. He was linked with the likes of Arsenal not long ago. Hope it happens.

Only a year left, 12m now or he walks for nothing next year.

[taio]

Fair enough, any idea why? I know he was linked with some big clubs over the past couple of seasons but this is very much a sideways (perhaps a slight upward incline) move for him, although maybe we’re prepared to pay him more.

Can't remember the detail but I've read several reports saying he's not interested in extending his contract with them.

[Spijed]

Only a year left, 12m now or he walks for nothing next year.

Daniel Levy seems willing to take that risk!

[Blyclaret]

Just looked up the usual compilation video of Berge. Firstly he huge. 6 5. Very strong on ball and tackle … scores goals as well and can head the ball. With that height can fill in as a centre half too I presume. Cost Sheffield 22m in 2020 …. Was linked with Liverpool too. So 12 m is not that big price for a player with premier experience.

[EarbyClaret]

The fact that the news only broke today indicates it is linked to Souza - with both clubs known to be interested - that's the only direct link I'm aware of

Would explain why Berge hasn't been touted more widely earlier in the window - attracting the interest of supposedly bigger clubs - and additionally why we seem very keen to get this wrapped up in the next 24 hours

Can't see that we're missing something that would be deterring other clubs - we've seen an opportunity and acted quickly - hopefully before the situation turns into a bidding war

[claretspice]

Don’t understand that last comment. Are we not a professional club?

By we, I meant supporters, as opposed to professional scouts and recruitment teams at Premier League clubs.

[Blyclaret]

He’s predominately right footed ….

[DCWat]

Berge of three years ago, I’d jump at.

Berge of the last season or two, remains to be seen. He certainly hasn’t pulled up any trees recently.

He’s still a very good age so there’s a good chance, in the right team and right system, he could prove to be a very good signing.

If he can recover his form, he could prove to be a bargain.

[ksrclaret]

By we, I meant supporters, as opposed to professional scouts and recruitment teams at Premier League clubs.

Yep. Just seemed an odd comment given our professionals are taking a different view to others club’s professionals in this case. They’re seeing what the supporters are as well you would presume.

[claretspice]

Yep. Just seemed an odd comment given our professionals are taking a different view to others club’s professionals in this case. They’re seeing what the supporters are as well you would presume.

Bur no other club is so given its received wisdom this is a good value deal, you have to wonder why noone else is jumping on it. We'll see

[boatshed bill]

I’d be so depressed if we chinned off our two best players (one of which to a relegation rival) 2 weeks before the season.

Which is the relegation rival of whom you speak?
I thought we were signing him

[Carport]

Just looked up the usual compilation video of Berge. Firstly he huge. 6 5. Very strong on ball and tackle … scores goals as well and can head the ball. With that height can fill in as a centre half too I presume. Cost Sheffield 22m in 2020 …. Was linked with Liverpool too. So 12 m is not that big price for a player with premier experience.

6’4” I think. Still tall though!

[Spijed]

The fact that the news only broke today indicates it is linked to Souza - with both clubs known to be interested - that's the only direct link I'm aware of

Would explain why Berge hasn't been touted more widely earlier in the window - attracting the interest of supposedly bigger clubs - and additionally why we seem very keen to get this wrapped up in the next 24 hours

Can't see that we're missing something that would be deterring other clubs - we've seen an opportunity and acted quickly - hopefully before the situation turns into a bidding war

You'd have thought his agent would have made his availability known to every club, regardless of how quiet we try to keep the deal.

[Jakubs Tash]

Just looked up the usual compilation video of Berge. Firstly he huge. 6 5. Very strong on ball and tackle … scores goals as well and can head the ball. With that height can fill in as a centre half too I presume. Cost Sheffield 22m in 2020 …. Was linked with Liverpool too. So 12 m is not that big price for a player with premier experience.

Yes, he’s tall (not convinced he’s 6ft 5”) but I certainly wouldn’t be presuming he “can fill in as centre half”. That’s a strange presumption….

He’s an excellent footballer. One of his key attributes I remember from his play is the underlapping runs he makes to get to the by-line and put a ball across from that inside right channel. He could be our KDB, if you like (obviously only relatively speaking).

Fingers crossed we can get this one done soon.

[Jakubs Tash]

You’ve got to think that Sheff Utd are trying to sell the club to new owners. In doing so, they may need to ‘fatten’ the coffers a bit to make it more attractive to any potential buyer. A bit like Garlick did with us. So they have to sell a couple of decent ones to sign four or five and leave the rest of the promotion/sky money alone.

[Blyclaret]

1.95…. Think that 6 5

[Blyclaret]

As our present midfield is small going by what we will face …. A bit height will help

[Jakubclaret]

You'd have thought his agent would have made his availability known to every club, regardless of how quiet we try to keep the deal.

In the world of football every man & his dog will know by now & that includes west ham.

[It Is What It Is]

My mate, a season ticket holder at Sheff Utd for 40 years, says Berge was great when he first came to them.
Got into a comfort zone, hit and miss performances of late and quite injury prone..to the point of skiving ....only saying.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Yes please regarding Berge.

Are we any wiser regarding Weghorst?

[CnBtruntru]

The fact that the news only broke today indicates it is linked to Souza - with both clubs known to be interested - that's the only direct link I'm aware of

Would explain why Berge hasn't been touted more widely earlier in the window - attracting the interest of supposedly bigger clubs - and additionally why we seem very keen to get this wrapped up in the next 24 hours

Can't see that we're missing something that would be deterring other clubs - we've seen an opportunity and acted quickly - hopefully before the situation turns into a bidding war

If a bidding war starts and somebody else comes in with more than us, we could go back in for Souza and totally balls up there transfers, they would still need to find a midfielder.

[Casper2]

My mate, a season ticket holder at Sheff Utd for 40 years, says Berge was great when he first came to them.
Got into a comfort zone, hit and miss performances of late and quite injury prone..to the point of skiving ....only saying.

A season ticket holder at Sheff U for 40 years has got to dull the senses

[Tricky Trevor]

1.95…. Think that 6 5

6’6” even but if the 1.95 is off wiki I wouldn’t trust it.
2m is 80” -5cm=2”=78”

[EarbyClaret]

You'd have thought his agent would have made his availability known to every club, regardless of how quiet we try to keep the deal.

I haven't seen the story but apparently it's known that he doesn't want to sign a new deal

His links with elite clubs date back 2/3 years - it appears he wants to stay in England/the PL. He has just spent two seasons in the Championship

Realistically there are probably only 5/6 clubs who might be interested - assuming they need someone in his position and they are looking to spend around £12M - which probably rules out say Everton and Wolves right now

West Ham maybe - but announcing him as the Declan Rice replacement might not go down so well

There's obviously concern that someone else might show some interest but you'd assume - based on what has been reported - we are in pole position as things stand

[maidenover]

File him under ‘clearly not good enough’ and ‘lucky escape’.

Add “Dodged a Bullet” to those oft used phrases on here..

[EarbyClaret]

Are we any wiser regarding Weghorst?

Mourinho seems to be at odds with the owners at Roma over their failure to replace Abraham who got an ACL injury in June

They have missed out on his preferred targets Morata and Scamacca so assume they are still in the market for a striker - not sure if there was any substance to the reported links with Weghorst last week

[CohibaClaret]

Berge was a mismatch for Sheffield. He likes to play the ball on the deck, fast movement passing style. His neck was hurting watching balls flying over at Bramall lane. He was never really happy there, signed when they were mid table PL team and things soon went sour after he signed. I think he will flourish under Kompany, playing proper footy.

[JimmyRobbo]

Haven't many of you watched him play?

He was one of the key players when SU were "running away with the league". He is a quality player. I am very happy with this deal, if we get him. He reminds me a little of Cork but with more goals in him. He's not really a defender, as such. but can put his foot in in the middle of the park.

This would be an excellent signing for us. I am full steam ahead on it and, even though he is a different sort of player, I'm more excited about Berge than I am about Ramsay.

Usual disclaimers, etc.

[Nori1958]

The fact that the news only broke today indicates it is linked to Souza - with both clubs known to be interested - that's the only direct link I'm aware of

Would explain why Berge hasn't been touted more widely earlier in the window - attracting the interest of supposedly bigger clubs - and additionally why we seem very keen to get this wrapped up in the next 24 hours

Can't see that we're missing something that would be deterring other clubs - we've seen an opportunity and acted quickly - hopefully before the situation turns into a bidding war

As said previously.....we bid earlier in the summer but it was rejected, guess we just kept trying, quietly.

[distortiondave]

A good season for Berge in a ball playing but weaker team (us) will increase his chances of a £20-30m move before he is 27 to a more elite club.
And if that doesn't work out then the deal sees him with a nice £10,000,000 contract and still only be 30 if he sees it through.
One way or another, he is more likely to spend longer in the Premier League with us than Sheffield United at the moment.

[NewClaret]

Haven't many of you watched him play?

He was one of the key players when SU were "running away with the league". He is a quality player. I am very happy with this deal, if we get him. He reminds me a little of Cork but with more goals in him. He's not really a defender, as such. but can put his foot in in the middle of the park.

This would be an excellent signing for us. I am full steam ahead on it and, even though he is a different sort of player, I'm more excited about Berge than I am about Ramsay.

Usual disclaimers, etc.

Agree with all.

Is Ramsey any good. I know Jacob is but I don’t recall Aaron pulling up any trees at Boro? Would be more excited by Hamer.

[Goalposts]

Sheff utd expected to announce Vinicius Souza signing on weds

[Spiral]

Do Berg and Lokonga at Arsenal not both play the same position? Apologies if already discussed, but would the Berg deal happening mean we've moved on from Lokonga?

[RVclaret]

Agree with all.

Is Ramsey any good. I know Jacob is but I don’t recall Aaron pulling up any trees at Boro? Would be more excited by Hamer.

He was excellent at Boro and his injury coincided with their form dropping off massively near the end of the season.

[colne-claret]

Agree with all.

Is Ramsey any good. I know Jacob is but I don’t recall Aaron pulling up any trees at Boro? Would be more excited by Hamer.

5 goals in 11 league games for a midfielder is pretty good going. Think they were very impressed by him.

[NewClaret]

5 goals in 11 league games for a midfielder is pretty good going. Think they were very impressed by him.

Just looked at that and he actually got 8 goals & 4 assists last season, which isn’t bad at all. I don’t remember it - I thought he’d been pretty quiet.

Only 20 too, which is younger than I expected. Sounds a bit more promising than I thought.

[NewClaret]

He was excellent at Boro and his injury coincided with their form dropping off massively near the end of the season.

Just looked at his stats and they are better than I thought.

Hamer or Ramsey if you could only pick one?