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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by whiffa » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:04 pm

Fretters wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:01 pm
I've heard the Ramsey deal is taking so long because we're struggling to get the other Aaron Ramsey to agree to be in the announcement video with him :D
At this rate we'll just be getting a video of Gordon Ramsey saying F*** Off! :lol:
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Post by NewClaret » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:12 pm

If Everton & PSG are in for Bakayoko I don’t fancy our chances!

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Post by ClaretCliff » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:14 pm

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A vertical run is when you stay on your feet and upright. A horizontal run is when you fall over because you've been fouled by an imaginary player 🤔😅
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Post by Firthy » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:26 pm

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If Everton & PSG are in for Bakayoko I don’t fancy our chances!
He'd choose us over Everton. You only have to look at the managers 🤔😆

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Hipper » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:32 pm

I don't know how anyone can judge that Foster can replace Tella.

In The Championship, which is all we really know, Tella made 39 appearances (8 as sub) and scored 17 goals.

Foster made 11 appearances (7 as sub) and score one. As much as he has some qualities, goal scoring is not one of them from what we have seen so far. He didn't look likely to score in The Championship so it seems to me wishful, thinking to expect lots of goals in The Premier League.

That may be the case with Tella too of course.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:35 pm

Nathan Tella has 1 goal and 2 assists in 33 PL appearances.

Lyle Foster has no goals in 1 PL appearance.

Just throwing out more useless stats.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:35 pm

just listening to the Athletic podcast and they just said that not only did Brighton get 115 million for Caicedo they also got a huge sell on clause inserted into the deal, fair play to whoever has managed that :shock:

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:36 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:32 pm
I don't know how anyone can judge that Foster can replace Tella.

In The Championship, which is all we really know, Tella made 39 appearances (8 as sub) and scored 17 goals.

Foster made 11 appearances (7 as sub) and score one. As much as he has some qualities, goal scoring is not one of them from what we have seen so far. He didn't look likely to score in The Championship so it seems to me wishful, thinking to expect lots of goals in The Premier League.

That may be the case with Tella too of course.
Bit harsh on Foster using the stats like that, his total game time in all his league appearances amounted to 4 full games. Considering joining in Jan - no pre season and in a new country he is going to take time

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Post by Hipper » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:39 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:35 pm
Nathan Tella has 1 goal and 2 assists in 33 PL appearances.

Lyle Foster has no goals in 1 PL appearance.

Just throwing out more useless stats.
I used the stats to amplify my point, namely, what evidence is there that suggests that Foster can play the Tella role in The Premier League. Answer, very little. It just seems to be wishful thinking.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:40 pm

If Everton are in with a shout at bakayoko then surely we are to
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Post by claretandy » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:42 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:35 pm
just listening to the Athletic podcast and they just said that not only did Brighton get 115 million for Caicedo they also got a huge sell on clause inserted into the deal, fair play to whoever has managed that :shock:
I'd be surprised if someone pays more than 115m for him in the future.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:40 pm
If Everton are in with a shout at bakayoko then surely we are to
With wages we won't.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:50 pm

claretandy wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:42 pm
I'd be surprised if someone pays more than 115m for him in the future.
I wouldn't, look at the prices now, in 5 years it's going to be even worse

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Post by Holtyclaret » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:51 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:39 pm
I used the stats to amplify my point, namely, what evidence is there that suggests that Foster can play the Tella role in The Premier League. Answer, very little. It just seems to be wishful thinking.
I wouldn’t directly compare the two, different players with different footballing backgrounds. Nobody will score lots of goals this year but hopefully lots of players will score a few.

Largest indicator that Foster will do well for us this season (performance wise overall, not just goals) - because VK sees enough in him (and CB) to start him.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:59 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:43 pm
With wages we won't.
Aren’t Everton struggling with finances though

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Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:00 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:40 pm
If Everton are in with a shout at bakayoko then surely we are to
Are we even in for that player? Seems old for our profile

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:02 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:39 pm
I used the stats to amplify my point, namely, what evidence is there that suggests that Foster can play the Tella role in The Premier League. Answer, very little. It just seems to be wishful thinking.
Foster was bought for the PL, not the Championship. This has been outlined several times by both the board and the current manager.

I saw enough from Foster against the best team in the world on Friday to know his pace and strength will help him do well this season for us in the PL. There will be a lot of people eating humble pie when he comes good.
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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:03 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:00 pm
Are we even in for that player? Seems old for our profile
The 20 year old Johan Bakayoko?
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Post by Quicknick » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:03 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:00 pm
Are we even in for that player? Seems old for our profile
I made that mistake earlier. As pointed out to me, it's a younger one.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:04 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:00 pm
Are we even in for that player? Seems old for our profile
How does a 20 year old Belgium winger seem old for our profile?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:04 pm

Don’t know how hard it is for people to get the right bakayoko hahaha more than one in the world

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Post by Commy » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:05 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:00 pm
Are we even in for that player? Seems old for our profile
Johan Bakayoko, 20 year old.

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Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:07 pm

Ok enough of the sarcasm. Simple mistake :roll:

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:12 pm

claretandy wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:42 pm
I'd be surprised if someone pays more than 115m for him in the future.
Al-Alhil or something.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:53 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:00 pm
Are we even in for that player? Seems old for our profile
You say that but then we’re in for Ramsey and he’s 33 in December.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:59 pm

Very strange that Ramsey still hasn’t been announced when kompany was talking a week ago in his presser like it was done

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Post by Commy » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:03 pm

We will all be a year older by the time Ramsey signs.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:27 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:32 pm
I don't know how anyone can judge that Foster can replace Tella.

In The Championship, which is all we really know, Tella made 39 appearances (8 as sub) and scored 17 goals.

Foster made 11 appearances (7 as sub) and score one. As much as he has some qualities, goal scoring is not one of them from what we have seen so far. He didn't look likely to score in The Championship so it seems to me wishful, thinking to expect lots of goals in The Premier League.

That may be the case with Tella too of course.
Comes across as saying Foster isn't as good as Tella. might just be the way it's worded!

I agree he's not a replacement, different style of players, but many said last season that Foster would be better suited to the Prem, due to the higher line teams will take against us this season. I think so, with his speed he needs to play off the shoulder and get in behind.

The surprise, and biggest plus of Friday night, was how strong he was in the tackle, how strong he was at protecting the ball when he'd won it, even against City's experience, and what good use he made of the ball when he passed it. His link up play was excellent.

Very excited to see him and Amdouni develop a partnership, if they keep improving on Fridays performance they are going to be some force, even at this level.
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Post by BigChaCha » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:34 pm

Foster does have talents but he's never really scored many at any level or for the clubs he's played at... Saying that, Tella wasn't exactly prolific previously to playing for us either but at least he has speed, an amazing first touch and control, as well as superb composure...

The only issue I have with Foster is that we paid at least 6 million too much for him and that is probably why he is under constant scrutiny!

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:37 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:34 pm
Foster does have talents but he's never really scored many at any level or for the clubs he's played at... Saying that, Tella wasn't exactly prolific previously to playing for us either but at least he has speed, an amazing first touch and control, as well as superb composure...

The only issue I have with Foster is that we paid at least 6 million too much for him and that is probably why he is under constant scrutiny!
He’s 22.

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Post by bfcjg » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:39 pm

If VK sees something in Foster that will do for me.

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Post by dermotdermot » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:47 pm

Surely we have buy Nathan Tella now. Too many of these striking targets are just not happening. There must be some interest from the manager/chairman or we wouldn't have had all that Nelson Mandela stuff a few weeks ago. Just get him in (and a left back) and we will all be able to rest in our beds tonight.
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Post by Carwin261 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:56 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:02 pm
Foster was bought for the PL, not the Championship. This has been outlined several times by both the board and the current manager.

I saw enough from Foster against the best team in the world on Friday to know his pace and strength will help him do well this season for us in the PL. There will be a lot of people eating humble pie when he comes good.
Told my relatives he’d get a dozen goals this season they laughed at me ,still think I’ll be proved right.
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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:58 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:56 pm
Told my relatives he’d get a dozen goals this season they laughed at me ,still think I’ll be proved right.
VK believes in him and bought him to play PL football. That will do for me.

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Post by fatboy47 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:09 pm

It all feels a bit bizarre on here.

We've got a very fast powerful talented kid playing at centre forward, who's just totally p1ssed the mom in his first ever Prem game against the best club in the world...and we still have this motley collection of gloomy negative herberts with nothing better to do than carp about him.

Weird tbh.

Same folk were probably lapping it up when our masterplan was lumping endlessly to Wood and Barnes.
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Post by boyyanno » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:16 pm

I think Foster showed enough against Man City to suggest he's going to be fine at this level. Wether he gets 10 goals plus or whatever is a bit irrelevant to be honest. If his performances are good then that's fine for me. I'm happy to share the goals out across the team.

I'd also add that the Foster we saw in pre-season and then against Man City looks light years away from the player we initially signed. He looks a lot fitter for a start but also generally looks like he's more on the same wave length as everyone else. Most posters said he needed time but some just wanted and still want to write him off. Hope he makes them eat humble pie and the early signs look good.
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Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:16 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:09 pm
It all feels a bit bizarre on here.

We've got a very fast powerful talented kid playing at centre forward, who's just totally p1ssed the mom in his first ever Prem game against the best club in the world...and we still have this motley collection of gloomy negative herberts with nothing better to do than carp about him.

Weird tbh.

Same folk were probably lapping it up when our masterplan was lumping endlessly to Wood and Barnes.
Based on the City game I'd say we had much bigger worries than Foster's ability.

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Post by whiffa » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:20 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:16 pm
Based on the City game I'd say we had much bigger worries than Foster's ability.
The pies and the queues? :lol:

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:30 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:16 pm
Based on the City game I'd say we had much bigger worries than Foster's ability.
The people serving who mixed a pint of san Miguel and carling, treason!!

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Post by fatboy47 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:35 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:16 pm
Most posters said he needed time but some just wanted and still want to write him off. Hope he makes them eat humble pie and the early signs look good.
What's pretty obvious is that the numpties are trying to write him off because he wasn't effective against Champ teams seige defending with 11 men in the box.. whereas the lad was clearly bought with counter-attacking in the Prem in mind. Something to which he'll take like a duck to water.
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Post by whiffa » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:22 pm

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Post by redwasp » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:25 pm

The Daily Express says Bayer Leverkusen are willing to pay £17million for Nathan Tella.!!

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:54 pm

It's a shame but our hesitation may cost ius
Nathan Tella should have been our priority signing
Chasing players who want time to think about signing for the most exciting team to grace the Premier league in years is futile.

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Post by Anthonini » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:00 pm

Trésor is also still available. Made a transfer request last week and he would also prefer to come to Burnley.

The best scenario would be Tresor and Bakayoko on the left and right hand side. But I doubt we have 40-50 mil in the bank. Though they would be wise investments. Especially Bakayoko has a very high resell value, and he's ready to make an impact on the highest level. Tresor had amazing statistics last season, if he can pull it off in the premier league he will become a valued player as well. Technically he'd fit in perfectly and he could add alot of creativity with his precise passing and good crosses.
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Post by Anthonini » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:04 pm

Genk is also getting nervous as they would prefer to seal the deal and get a replacement settled in. Having a key player that isn't 100% there in his mind isn't an ideal situation. Their results have been disappointing getting defeated by Servette in the Champions League qualification round. An offer less than 20 million would do.

As for Lukebakio the only reason I can see why he hasn't signed already is because they have a better option for his position, maybe Bakayoko? Otherwise I don't see why Burnley wouldn't be able to find an agreement. I don't think his wage demands would be that exuberant.
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Post by Goody1975 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:09 pm

Anthonini, I'm sure you have already been asked and answered this but are you a permanent resident of Belgium and therefore have an inside view of Belgium football?

I enjoy your informative posts. 👍
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:15 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:04 pm
Genk is also getting nervous as they would prefer to seal the deal and get a replacement settled in. Having a key player that isn't 100% there in his mind isn't an ideal situation. Their results have been disappointing getting defeated by Servette in the Champions League qualification round. An offer less than 20 million would do.

As for Lukebakio the only reason I can see why he hasn't signed already is because they have a better option for his position, maybe Bakayoko? Otherwise I don't see why Burnley wouldn't be able to find an agreement. I don't think his wage demands would be that exuberant.
Lukebakio is signing for Sevilla

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Post by agreenwood » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:24 pm

We won’t be getting Cole Palmer either 🤣

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Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:50 pm
I wouldn't, look at the prices now, in 5 years it's going to be even worse
It won’t carry on in the prem as it’s suicide for all but a couple, the Saudi money machine will buy football & host the World Cup & be the foundation of a super league, F1, Golf, horse racing & head removal are all in its pocket.
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