Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Goody1975]

Defensive Midfielder

[claretonthecoast1882]

Alot of Hull fans on twitter are comparing Twine with Billy Whitehurst, very similar.

be about the only time Twine will be compared to one of the hardest men ever in football

[randomclaret2]

Alot of Hull fans on twitter are comparing Twine with Billy Whitehurst, very similar.

Two peas in a pod

[randomclaret2]

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Was due to stay on loan at Augsburg, where he has been on loan since January , till 31st Dec, but loan was terminated earlier this week and he returned to Sporting Lisbon

[burnley007]

Renato Palma Veiga is a Portuguese football player who plays as a midfielder for Bundesliga club FC Augsburg, on loan from Primeira Liga club Sporting CP, and captains the Portugal national under-20 football team.

Captain of the U20's is a good sign. Definitely a promising signing, no idea how likely this is.

[burnley007]

Was due to stay on loan at Augsburg, where he has been on loan since January , till 31st Dec, but loan was terminated earlier this week and he returned to Sporting Lisbon

terminated by whom? Augsberg?

Is this so that SL can sell him?

[randomclaret2]

" FC Augsburg have decided to terminate Renato Veiga’s loan at the club prior to the end of his contract, which was due to run until 31st December 2023...."

[123EasyasBFC]

His guy probably being looked at instead of lokonga

[burnley007]

Commits fouls often!!

[Colburn_Claret]

A Hull supporting colleague seems to think it's a loan with an option to buy. Personally, I think that might just be wishful thinking on his part.

He also says they are in for Andros Townsend.

I think he's one for the future, and VK just wants him to play regular.
I doubt we'd sell, and if we did Hull couldn't afford him.

[123EasyasBFC]

I think he's one for the future, and VK just wants him to play regular.
I doubt we'd sell, and if we did Hull couldn't afford him.

At 24 year old this season is a crucial season for him

[Vegas Claret]

Olise deal to Chelsea fallen through and he's signing a new deal at Palace instead

[burnley007]

Olise deal to Chelsea fallen through and he's signing a new deal at Palace instead

I wonder how much Palace's threat of legal action affected that one?

[Jakubs Tash]

His guy probably being looked at instead of lokonga

I wouldn’t have thought so. Two very different profiles. Lokonga would be a marquee signing and go straight into the first XI. I’m not sure this lad would.

[Goody1975]

Renato Palma Veiga is a Portuguese football player who plays as a midfielder for Bundesliga club FC Augsburg, on loan from Primeira Liga club Sporting CP, and captains the Portugal national under-20 football team.

Captain of the U20's is a good sign. Definitely a promising signing, no idea how likely this is.

Looks tall (around 6ft 2) and athletic, all left foot but has technical ability. The you tube highlights are mainly from a level well below where we are but he could be someone who at 20 years old that could steadily improve and become a decent player for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SUNMUP ... Succession

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Looks tall (around 6ft 2) and athletic, all left foot but has technical ability. The you tube highlights are mainly from a level well below where we are but he could be someone who at 20 years old that could steadily improve and become a decent player for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SUNMUP ... Succession

All left foot?
That’s no good, we don’t like players here who’re predominantly one footed

See McNeil and David Jones as examples

[BobSykes]

Roll on 1st September and i can be freed from my repeated refreshing of this thread for 4 months....

[Goody1975]

Interesting take from the Augsburg supporters.

https://www.transfermarkt.ch/renato-vei ... d_id/14113

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But according to BILD information, the planned demolition of the loan also has another reason!

Augsburg's number 8 is said to have repeatedly attracted negative attention with unpunctuality and a conversation with the coach did not bring any improvement. For Maassen, who attaches great importance to discipline and mutual respect within his team, this misconduct is another reason to no longer plan with Veiga.

[Firthy]

Seems like most of our deals are very slow or fallen through. Only thing I'm getting at the moment is that W Ham, Everton and Wolves want Brownhill. I think we'd be crazy to let him leave with our current midfield and Twine having been loaned out. Hopefully somethings are happening in the shadows. LB, midfield and striker still needed.

[Elizabeth]

Alot of Hull fans on twitter are comparing Twine with Billy Whitehurst, very similar.

Not sure how many saw Whitehurst play but for those who don’t know the name he was the complete opposite of Twine

[northeastclaret]

Seems like most of our deals are very slow or fallen through. Only thing I'm getting at the moment is that W Ham, Everton and Wolves want Brownhill. I think we'd be crazy to let him leave with our current midfield and Twine having been loaned out. Hopefully somethings are happening in the shadows. LB, midfield and striker still needed.

Yes frustrating , particularly with not even any more rumours on the delay regarding Ramsey.

But I assume we would not have allowed Twine to go on loan if the club weren’t confident of bringing someone better in.

[Elizabeth]

Not sure how many saw Whitehurst play but for those who don’t know the name he was the complete opposite of Twine

Forget that, already commented on

[Tricky Trevor]

Letting Brownhill go with no replacement through the door would be PL suicide.

[jojomk1]

Seems like most of our deals are very slow or fallen through. Only thing I'm getting at the moment is that W Ham, Everton and Wolves want Brownhill. I think we'd be crazy to let him leave with our current midfield and Twine having been loaned out. Hopefully somethings are happening in the shadows. LB, midfield and striker still needed.

Where are these links to Brownhill ?

[123EasyasBFC]

For all we know brownhill could be the one stalling on a new contract and his agent could be putting his name out there

[mybloodisclaret]

Where are these links to Brownhill ?

Newsnow.co.uk/burnley

[Burnley1989]

Letting Brownhill go with no replacement through the door would be PL suicide.

I suspect we’d only sell him if he’d indicated he wasn’t signing and his agent has told him he can double his wage

[Venkys4eva]

Be gutted if brownhill left, however VK knows more than me. I would love to see Tella return though..

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Brownhill going? Nonsense!

[EarbyClaret]

Alot of Hull fans on twitter are comparing Twine with Billy Whitehurst, very similar.

Was he the big unit who was playing up front for Doncaster when we won 4-1 there at the start of the 91/92 Championship season - got a red card if I remember correctly

[Nori1958]

Brownhill going? Nonsense!

Up to the manager

[Andingle]

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[Mixedkompany]

The rumours around Brownhill leaving seem to stem from him not being willing to sign a new deal. The timing of this seems consistent with us tying down others like Cullen and Benson. By selling now we could extract a decent fee. He has one year left on his contract with an option for another year. Hopefully, the option is in the clubs favour. If the rumour is true there may be substance in him leaving.

[warksclaret]

I think we have been passive in handling contract discussions with our better players over the last 3-4 years and it has cost us. Examples are Tarks, Mee, Hendrick recently and several more.At the same time we have found it easier to extend contracts of those who are in their twilight years ie Jay, Cork, JBG, Bardsley,Lennon Long and many more.

With our new business model ,gaining a return from players refusing to enter and conclude contract extensions is vital for the club to succeed as a business. I would love Josh to sign a new deal as he can still make a major contribution, but if he is playing "hard-ball" then lets move him on and reinvest the money

[Robbie_painter]

Somebody posted this last week but are we in danger of losing identity and ending up with a squad of individuals with no real leaders or characters?

[boatshed bill]

Somebody posted this last week but are we in danger of losing identity and ending up with a squad of individuals with no real leaders or characters?

And possibly becoming more of a shop than a football club.

[Father Jack]

Is that how Brighton or Brentford feel?
We’re Burnley more of a shop than a football club in the 60’s and 70’s when we always had to sell and had to fight to maintain a place at the top table?

[123EasyasBFC]

Genk knocked out of Europa league qualification tonight, further knock on affect for tresor

[123EasyasBFC]

Tresor wasn’t in the squad either

[boatshed bill]

Is that how Brighton or Brentford feel?
We’re Burnley more of a shop than a football club in the 60’s and 70’s when we always had to sell and had to fight to maintain a place at the top table?

And eventually failed (rather spectacularly).

[DCWat]

Somebody posted this last week but are we in danger of losing identity and ending up with a squad of individuals with no real leaders or characters?

There could be a risk of that - what we don’t know of course is how long all of the new additions will stay for. It’s possible that one or two could be with us for many years and they themselves become the latest club stalwarts.

I don’t think this sort of thinking would be lost on Kompany. You only need to hear some of his comments on Barnes etc. to see that he appreciates, and understands, the need for older heads who understand the club, and in turn, pass that experience on.

[Darnhill Claret]

Josh Cullen strikes me as our new 'experienced head'.

[CoolClaret]

Somebody posted this last week but are we in danger of losing identity and ending up with a squad of individuals with no real leaders or characters?

Aye twas me and I got a bit piled on for it.

Going a bit Watford I feel, still believe we’re over thinking things massively.

I get the plan to buy low and sell high but there’s a balance to be had for sure.

Lots of stuff to admired that the club is doing at the moment but there’s a little bit creeping in that I’m not so sure about.

[arise_sir_charge]

I don’t expect a character like VK to have a team with a lack of character.

We might like Josh Brownhill because he looks a good lad, VK might think he’s limited and and there is a 20 year old Andorran who could do the same.

I’m going to trust VK over boatshedbill.

[123EasyasBFC]

Aye twas me and I got a bit piled on for it.

Going a bit Watford I feel, still believe we’re over thinking things massively.

I get the plan to buy low and sell high but there’s a balance to be had for sure.

Lots of stuff to admired that the club is doing at the moment but there’s a little bit creeping in that I’m not so sure about.

Other thank koleosho, who have we bought low to sell high? We have spent 60m

[COBBLE]

And possibly becoming more of a shop than a football club.

I'm not sure how many players have stayed with BFC for reasons other than financial. We are just managing the situation more effectively.

[Father Jack]

Other thank koleosho, who have we bought low to sell high? We have spent 60m

Everyone has been bought low by the standards of the league we are hoping to compete in.
It’s high based on our previous experience and model.
But definitely low relative to the league and what one big sale could bring in

[CoolClaret]

Other thank koleosho, who have we bought low to sell high? We have spent 60m

I think all have been purchased with a view to sell for a markup bar Berge & O’Shea - might make our money back on those two or a slight profit depending. Got a feeling Dara could be here for a while though, which would be grand.

[123EasyasBFC]

Everyone has been bought low by the standards of the league we are hoping to compete in.
It’s high based on our previous experience and model.
But definitely low relative to the league and what one big sale could bring in

But for Burnley’s standards and finances we aren’t buying low. Can’t say spending 9m on a 18 year old winger from France is buying low.

[boatshed bill]

I'm not sure how many players have stayed with BFC for reasons other than financial. We are just managing the situation more effectively.

Well that actually remains to be proven, doesn't it?