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Post by Eyesofblue2 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:13 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:03 am
I don't think we'll hang around if villa are messing about, not our style anymore
It's nearly two weeks since Vinni was suggesting this was done and dusted, so Villa are messing us about and we are still hanging around.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:18 am

Eyesofblue2 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:13 am
It's nearly two weeks since Vinni was suggesting this was done and dusted, so Villa are messing us about and we are still hanging around.

Both Kompany and Pace have a bit more about them than just sat there waiting for Villa to sort something. If we are just hanging around it will be because it is something that will be sorted, if it isn't they will have moved on.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:19 am

Eyesofblue2 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:13 am
It's nearly two weeks since Vinni was suggesting this was done and dusted, so Villa are messing us about and we are still hanging around.
Maybe it is done
Maybe Vinni is happy with the situation
Maybe they are not messing us about

The bottom line is none of know, but the way we've worked under this regime I think we'd have walked away before now if we felt we were being messed around......or maybe we have walked away?

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Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:28 am

Cap wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:57 pm
Everton linked with Balde
https://talksport.com/football/1539566/ ... -rejected/
Mama Balde not to come?
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Post by northeastclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:29 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:19 am
Maybe it is done
Maybe Vinni is happy with the situation
Maybe they are not messing us about

The bottom line is none of know, but the way we've worked under this regime I think we'd have walked away before now if we felt we were being messed around......or maybe we have walked away?
Because there are no comments either way and no rumours of alternatives for that position at the moment, I can only presume it’s because they don’t want him to play against them and therefore are delaying the completion of the transfer to Friday afternoon? We obviously want him a lot so are willing to accept the delay.

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:40 am

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:28 am
Mama Balde not to come?
Mama told me (Not to come)

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:41 am

:D Penny dropped
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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:12 am

Just seen that Troyes are part of the City football group…

Not sure about you guys but I don’t know how signing the Strikeforce of a team relegated from ligue 1 is meant to prime our team for survival.

Odobert an argument can be made about his age being only 18 - Balde? Stinks a bit tbh

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:14 am

After Sunday's game when there will be another 5 days to go.

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Post by SirBob » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:18 am

Seem to remember signing Pope and Heaton from relegated championship teams. Both went on to play in the best league in the world and represent England, don’t think playing for a relegated team is of real significance
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:21 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:12 am
Just seen that Troyes are part of the City football group…

Not sure about you guys but I don’t know how signing the Strikeforce of a team relegated from ligue 1 is meant to prime our team for survival.

Odobert an argument can be made about his age being only 18 - Balde? Stinks a bit tbh
You could argue that scoring 12 league goals for a team that got relegated is good return and maybe it was defensively that cost them?

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:25 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:21 am
You could argue that scoring 12 league goals for a team that got relegated is good return and maybe it was defensively that cost them?
You could.

You could also argue that the wrong end of the French league is really poor in quality and he’s had one season of scoring goals.

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Post by burnley007 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:26 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:21 am
You could argue that scoring 12 league goals for a team that got relegated is good return and maybe it was defensively that cost them?
exactly.

I just tend to sit back and trust the process now. Our recruitment is beyond my wildest expectations recently, so I'm just happy.

...after years of awful transfer windows, I can't imagine being anything other than delighted atm ;)
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:34 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:25 am
You could.

You could also argue that the wrong end of the French league is really poor in quality and he’s had one season of scoring goals.
What’s the wrong end of the French league got to do with him scoring 12 league goals? Whatever league you’re in, a team struggling managing to score 12 league goals is a good return.
One season of scoring goals is true but it’s the last season so should be full on confidence

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:36 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:41 am
:D Penny dropped
I didn't think he even got a game in the first place.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:44 am

SSN reporting this morning on Arsenal news saying there are currently no "active" talks between them and us on Lokonga

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:55 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:44 am
SSN reporting this morning on Arsenal news saying there are currently no "active" talks between them and us on Lokonga
He wants big wages.

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:02 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:34 am
What’s the wrong end of the French league got to do with him scoring 12 league goals? Whatever league you’re in, a team struggling managing to score 12 league goals is a good return.
One season of scoring goals is true but it’s the last season so should be full on confidence
I don’t particularly think it’s a strong or impressive league - and it’s the first time he broke double digits - I’m aware that he has played fullback and wing also.

If he was a regular double digit goal scorer i’d be a bit more
optimistic.. Rouwen Hennings bagged 15 in the Bundesliga one season 🤷‍♂️

Could be a useful cog in the system but I don’t think he’d be prolific

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Post by Selby Claret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:06 pm

SirBob wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:18 am
Seem to remember signing Pope and Heaton from relegated championship teams. Both went on to play in the best league in the world and represent England, don’t think playing for a relegated team is of real significance
And JBG

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:55 am
He wants big wages.
He’s done nothing to earn them so can do one, if that’s the issue.

I want Lokonga aswell, think VK could get the best out of him, but let’s be honest he’s flopped at Arsenal and Palace so a big risk for us. Hope we’re looking elsewhere.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:11 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:55 am
He wants big wages.
And this is the crazy world of the Premier League - even before Saudi
In 2021 Arsenal sign him for approx £17m and no doubt good wages will have been part of that deal
That season he makes 19 league apps for them (not all starting) and scores 0 goals
2022 he makes 6 league apps for them and 9 for Palace and scores 0 goals
Does he now want a rise in wages ?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:11 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:02 pm
I don’t particularly think it’s a strong or impressive league - and it’s the first time he broke double digits - I’m aware that he has played fullback and wing also.

If he was a regular double digit goal scorer i’d be a bit more
optimistic.. Rouwen Hennings bagged 15 in the Bundesliga one season 🤷‍♂️

Could be a useful cog in the system but I don’t think he’d be prolific
Cornet came from the same league with a lesser goal reckon and hit the ground running

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:17 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:11 pm
Cornet came from the same league with a lesser goal reckon and hit the ground running
Aye - they had him playing left back / left wing back a hell of a lot though, is also a year younger than Balde and was playing for Lyon age sort of 18-23/24 ish

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:21 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:11 pm
And this is the crazy world of the Premier League - even before Saudi
In 2021 Arsenal sign him for approx £17m and no doubt good wages will have been part of that deal
That season he makes 19 league apps for them (not all starting) and scores 0 goals
2022 he makes 6 league apps for them and 9 for Palace and scores 0 goals
Does he now want a rise in wages ?
Cost of living crisis

There wages are rising with inflation ;)

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Post by Rumbletonk » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:34 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:12 am
Just seen that Troyes are part of the City football group…

Not sure about you guys but I don’t know how signing the Strikeforce of a team relegated from ligue 1 is meant to prime our team for survival.

Odobert an argument can be made about his age being only 18 - Balde? Stinks a bit tbh
Yes our manager is in cahoots with the city owners so they can flog crap players to us. What on Earth are you on about?

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Post by Goody1975 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:37 pm

Balde has played in lots of position through his career but mainly as a winger, last season he played as a central forward, which may be why his goal tally was higher than previous seasons.

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:38 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:34 pm
Yes our manager is in cahoots with the city owners so they can flog crap players to us. What on Earth are you on about?
Did I once say that? Meant more that it’s a bit lazy.

Our club isn’t infallible you know

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Post by Spijed » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:46 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:34 pm
Yes our manager is in cahoots with the city owners so they can flog crap players to us. What on Earth are you on about?
Certainly happened to us in the past with the dross that Fergie passed onto us. :)
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Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:51 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:38 pm
Did I once say that? Meant more that it’s a bit lazy.

Our club isn’t infallible you know
In that case perhaps you ought to choose your words a little more carefully in future.

“It stinks” implies something dodgy is going on, not just that you don’t particularly like the idea of signing the player.

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Post by jackmiggins » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:53 pm

Quite laughable that so many haven’t cottoned on to the fact that BFC never divulge transfer info until it’s completed!!!
The rumours are agent initiated and can be completely ignored. The worst of it is, that this thread is predominantly made up of our experts discussing DROSS🤬

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:55 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:51 pm
In that case perhaps you ought to choose your words a little more carefully in future.

“It stinks” implies something dodgy is going on, not just that you don’t particularly like the idea of signing the player.
Fair point.

I don’t think anyone is infallible mind and can be influenced with familiarity.

I think some of our business this window has been good but still very skeptical about some of it.

Still trying to keep an open mind and I suppose we will see where we’re at a few weeks/games after the window shuts

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Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:58 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:55 pm
Fair point.

I don’t think anyone is infallible mind and can be influenced with familiarity.

I think some of our business this window has been good but still very skeptical about some of it.

Still trying to keep an open mind and I suppose we will see where we’re at a few weeks/games after the window shuts
I agree, the team at the moment has more than a few questions marks, and I think if the window closed today we’d not be in a great position. The good news is though we don’t need much, a LB and midfielder, and possibly another forward. If we sort that with some quality we’re absolutely fine. I expect a flurry in the last few days now.

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Post by nyclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:59 pm

Wolves linked with a move for Brownhill

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Post by jackmiggins » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:04 pm

BS

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Post by FeedTheArf » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:07 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:59 pm
Wolves linked with a move for Brownhill
Still have every faith he'll sign a new contract with us. It'll be the agent hawking his name around to drum up interest and strengthen his negotiating hand.

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Post by winsomeyen » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:09 pm

Which hand is his negotiating hand. ???

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:22 pm

claretandy wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:19 pm
Delcroix done...

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... tGAmg&s=19
Southampton turn down 15m from German side for Tella

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Post by jackmiggins » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:24 pm

Again………BS

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:25 pm

It’s certainly not BS that brownhill is stalling on a new contract

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Post by Commy » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:27 pm

Everyone reporting that teams can sign Brownhill on the cheap as he only has a year left. Haven't we got the option of another year?

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:27 pm

jackmiggins wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:24 pm
Again………BS
Another helpful insightful reply

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:34 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:27 pm
Everyone reporting that teams can sign Brownhill on the cheap as he only has a year left. Haven't we got the option of another year?
It does say on CT's player list 2024+ which is I think an option of another year by the Club-so potentially until end of 2024- 2025 season

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Post by It Is What It Is » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:34 pm

I think this thread should be suspended until transfer deadline day on 1st September.
That's the only date we will all know what is what.
Rumours and guesswork followed by anticipations and disappointments is not good for anyone!

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:37 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:34 pm
I think this thread should be suspended until transfer deadline day on 1st September.
That's the only date we will all know what is what.
Rumours and guesswork followed by anticipations and disappointments is not good for anyone!
It's OK for me thankyou.....its all the other crap being discussed on a transfer thread that grinds
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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:37 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:34 pm
I think this thread should be suspended until transfer deadline day on 1st September.
That's the only date we will all know what is what.
Rumours and guesswork followed by anticipations and disappointments is not good for anyone!
I think if you don't like it keep your opinions to yourself. The title of the post states 'rumours, discussions'. What do you not understand about that?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:39 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:34 pm
I think this thread should be suspended until transfer deadline day on 1st September.
That's the only date we will all know what is what.
Rumours and guesswork followed by anticipations and disappointments is not good for anyone!
Or suspend yourself from reading the transfers thread, nobody is forcing you to log in and read it

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:42 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:34 pm
It does say on CT's player list 2024+ which is I think an option of another year by the Club-so potentially until end of 2024- 2025 season
Am I right in thinking the player has to agree to that?

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Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:44 pm

I think posters who don’t like this thread should do us all a favour and stop reading it. Sad berks.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:46 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:42 pm
Am I right in thinking the player has to agree to that?
Probably depends on the terms set out
I’m vaguely sure that a player has activated it themselves once in the PL despite the club not really wanting them and also the club doing the same to ensure they got a fee

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