Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:26 pm

Cole Palmer, Man City to Chelsea for 40 million + 5 in add ons sounds done, hopefully means they need to sell someone

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Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:27 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:24 pm
Sacha Tavolieri on twitter now confirming the above news RE Daka from yesterday.
Re: Maatsen - are there any other irons in the fire assuming that one doesn't get over the line?

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Post by forzagranata » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:29 pm

Daka a much better option for CF than Origi. Good news.

Cornet an alternative to Maatsen in his original left-wing back role?

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Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:33 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:29 pm
Daka a much better option for CF than Origi. Good news.

Cornet an alternative to Maatsen in his original left-wing back role?
Think Cornet will sit tight on his £80,000 a week contract.

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:37 pm

Cornet - Love the guy but a huge no from me.

Agree Daka is a better option than Origi.

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Post by LongsideClaret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:38 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:27 pm
Re: Maatsen - are there any other irons in the fire assuming that one doesn't get over the line?
Every time I ask about us getting a left back I am told “unlikely” or “probably not”. Personally think that’s mad but that’s the info I’ve been given.

We’ve tried v hard for Maatsen so I don’t see why we don’t seem to have an alternative there.

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Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:38 pm

Sacha says VK did not talk to Origi, despite the rumours he did.

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Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:39 pm

Cornet a no from me sick note sadly, loved him when he was here though.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:43 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:38 pm
Every time I ask about us getting a left back I am told “unlikely” or “probably not”. Personally think that’s mad but that’s the info I’ve been given.

We’ve tried v hard for Maatsen so I don’t see why we don’t seem to have an alternative there.
Taylor has to been given game time then and coached into the role, we can’t play a season with a makeshift left back

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:44 pm

And all the talk was we had multiple offers players for every position but left back we only had Maatsen, seems very strange

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Post by ClaretAL » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:47 pm

I don’t know much about Daka so did the obligatory YouTube and I’m not seeing why he looks a good fit for us. That said I’m sure officianados on here know him inside out will provide stats showing why.

https://youtu.be/ye-cSyffUeM?feature=shared

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Post by equinox » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:51 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:29 pm

Cornet an alternative to Maatsen in his original left-wing back role?
Cornet at left back now? Jesus fncking Christ almighty, the son of Joseph and the nephew of John the Baptist.

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Post by Ziggy Stardust » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:54 pm

equinox wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:51 pm
Cornet at left back now? Jesus fncking Christ almighty, the son of Joseph and the nephew of John the Baptist.
He played there for Lyon in the champions league.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:55 pm

Maatsen starts for Chelsea, I just don't see any way we get him

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Post by Firthy » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:56 pm

equinox wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:51 pm
Cornet at left back now? Jesus fncking Christ almighty, the son of Joseph and the nephew of John the Baptist.
Cornet was a LB before he came to us so don't sound so surprised.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:55 pm
Maatsen starts for Chelsea, I just don't see any way we get him
We surely must have had some encouragement from Chelsea otherwise we wouldn't be putting this much effort in trying to sign him.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:05 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:55 pm
Maatsen starts for Chelsea, I just don't see any way we get him
Cucurella starts to
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Post by equinox » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:05 pm

Firthy wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:56 pm
Cornet was a LB before he came to us so don't sound so surprised.
Gareth Bale played left back at Southampton, Gareth Southgate plays Trippier at left back, Vincent Kompany plays Vitinho at left back...file with this lot.

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Post by colne-claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:06 pm

Firthy wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:56 pm
Cornet was a LB before he came to us so don't sound so surprised.
Did you see Cornet play at Burnley? Surely if so, that tells you that he is no left back.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:08 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:05 pm
Cucurella starts to
Pochetino has played Maatsen way further forward in all the games. I just don't see it, Spijed may have a point about us not blindly pursuing him though.

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Post by equinox » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:11 pm

Remember when Dyche continued to play Mee at left back when we had Ward waiting in the wings? This is the same, give Taylor the shirt ffs.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:12 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:06 pm
Did you see Cornet play at Burnley? Surely if so, that tells you that he is no left back.
And yet he played games at left back for Lyon, a team in the champions league. Football eh?

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Post by equinox » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:13 pm

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:12 pm
And yet he played games at left back for Lyon, a team in the champions league. Football eh?
Fnck Lyon

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:31 pm

equinox wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:13 pm
Fnck Lyon
what happened to your prediction about us smashing Villa ? :lol:

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Post by Selby Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:03 pm

Bakayoko starts for PSV

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Post by equinox » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:31 pm
what happened to your prediction about us smashing Villa ? :lol:
Aye, Heart over head, I've changed now 😎

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Post by northernpowerhouse » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:05 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:55 pm
Maatsen starts for Chelsea, I just don't see any way we get him
Alongside Lesley Ugochukwu, Mason Burstow, Diego Moreira and Bashir Humphreys, whoever they are. If anything it makes me more confident of signing Maatsen.

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Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:12 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:46 pm
Some fans genuinely believed that we were gonna finish 10th or above mate and just football teams off the park.

If only.
Why do you care what other fans think it is just an opinion right or wrong we all have 1 and we are all entitled to have 1.

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Post by CoolClaret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:17 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:12 pm
Why do you care what other fans think it is just an opinion right or wrong we all have 1 and we are all entitled to have 1.
I don’t particularly - just think some are getting ahead of themselves after a brilliant campaign last year… don’t want them to be left disappointed !

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Post by BigGaz » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:21 pm

Could do with Maatsen having a stinker for the ages here

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Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:21 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:17 pm
I don’t particularly - just think some are getting ahead of themselves after a brilliant campaign last year… don’t want them to be left disappointed !
You never know they might not be left disappointed 😉

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Post by agreenwood » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:36 pm

If Maatsen isn’t seen as a full back at Chelsea, he’s got a hell of a job on starting for Chelsea beyond the Carabao Cup.

Their wide/attacking midfield options at the end of this window appear to be:

Sterling
Chukwuemeka
Mudryk
Madueke
Nkunku
Moreira
Palmer

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:52 pm

equinox wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:03 pm
Aye, Heart over head, I've changed now 😎
:D

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:55 pm

how on earth are they pulling this one off ?
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Post by Ampth7 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:57 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:55 pm
how on earth are they pulling this one off ?
You do have to admire what Brighton have achieved in the last 10 years. The blueprint to follow it would seem.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:58 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:57 pm
You do have to admire what Brighton have achieved in the last 10 years. The blueprint to follow it would seem.
If we follow their blueprint where are we going to get half a billion quid from?
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Post by Ampth7 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:06 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:58 pm
If we follow their blueprint where are we going to get half a billion quid from?
I was meaning in terms of the way they have bought and then sold players for huge profits along with the way they play. Their recruitment of managers and their scouting system also appear to be excellent.

I’m not privy to their accounts, but from afar it seems to me that they get a lot of things right when other clubs, some of whom have spent much more, seemingly don’t.

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Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:55 pm
how on earth are they pulling this one off ?
Because he's not been very good after a long term injury a couple of years ago.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:21 pm

if Ekdal is a long term injury surely we go get THB on loan, he's available and knows the system inside out
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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:22 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:58 pm
If we follow their blueprint where are we going to get half a billion quid from?
We’re already a third of the way there since Kompany started.

Anyway, Brighton have never had a window like ours. Their record is a net £80m or so, they invested a lot initially in the PL, but not to the extent we just have, and on young players, which matches our model, but overall looking at their purchases and sales they have been in profit for several years with net spending for the few years before that but not to the extent we just have.

We clearly aspire to their model of selling at big profits every year, but I don’t see anything unreachable in how they have done it vs us.

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Post by Claretnick » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:33 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:21 pm
if Ekdal is a long term injury surely we go get THB on loan, he's available and knows the system inside out
He should also have a good understanding with Trafford, in light of their England U21 playing time together..
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Post by Gazclaret83 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:47 pm

Charlie Taylor Burnley left back.

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Post by claretlegend » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:53 pm

I echo what was posted earlier. If Ekdal is injured long term, surely it makes sense for all parties for THB to return.

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Post by GetIntoEm » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:06 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:06 pm
I was meaning in terms of the way they have bought and then sold players for huge profits along with the way they play. Their recruitment of managers and their scouting system also appear to be excellent.

I’m not privy to their accounts, but from afar it seems to me that they get a lot of things right when other clubs, some of whom have spent much more, seemingly don’t.
Strange how theyve got a load of debt tho. Press seem to ignore that bit

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:06 pm

Think we will definitely aim for a CB loan now. THB seems an obvious choice but seems to be a few in the queue for him.

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Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:08 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:22 pm
We’re already a third of the way there since Kompany started.

Anyway, Brighton have never had a window like ours. Their record is a net £80m or so, they invested a lot initially in the PL, but not to the extent we just have, and on young players, which matches our model, but overall looking at their purchases and sales they have been in profit for several years with net spending for the few years before that but not to the extent we just have.

We clearly aspire to their model of selling at big profits every year, but I don’t see anything unreachable in how they have done it vs us.
I think he was referring to the half a billion of subsidised losses which Brighton have had.

At the moment based on our published accounts we are roughly half a billion pounds away from the Brighton model given we have not posted any losses !

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Post by TsarBomba » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:19 pm

Tresor deal off, apparently.

Player hesitant.

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Post by agreenwood » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:19 pm

Tresor off..
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Post by claretlegend » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:22 pm

Bugger! How has he left it so late to change his bloody mind?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:23 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:06 pm
I was meaning in terms of the way they have bought and then sold players for huge profits along with the way they play. Their recruitment of managers and their scouting system also appear to be excellent.

I’m not privy to their accounts, but from afar it seems to me that they get a lot of things right when other clubs, some of whom have spent much more, seemingly don’t.
Their accounts are freely available from companies house, they’ve been examined and explained by Kieron Maguire on twitter and Swiss ramble

Brighton absolutely haemorrhage money, have done for years
£500 million of debt, mainly to Bloom
The club doesn’t own the ground or training facilities and pay rent on them both but all 3 are owned by a parent company

Bloom has a very good network of people who find players for Brighton but he has put big money into that network that isn’t billed to the club

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