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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Murger » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am

I don’t understand why we’ve bid for Summerville. This fascination with wingers is bizarre.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:22 am

Murger wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am
I don’t understand why we’ve bid for Summerville. This fascination with wingers is bizarre.
because Leeds are MASSIVE and we wanted to toy with them ;)

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:24 am

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am
Dont underestimate the Belgian link with Vinny. They will have played together for their country and presume be quite close as friends
Origi probs fancies his chances of being starting striker for us, was for forest awoniyi has started well so he’s very much first choice

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:28 am

Murger wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am
I don’t understand why we’ve bid for Summerville. This fascination with wingers is bizarre.
Leeds fans will be gutted if they lose Summerville. Their entire season will hinge on him, Gnonto and Sinisterra to provide support for Piroe.

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Post by Anthonini » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:32 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:08 am
As someone who has seen little of Origi over his whole career is he a lot better than his record suggests ?
In his debut for the national team, world cup in Brazil, he was 19 years old and people(not me) preferred him over Lukaku who was on fire at Everton back then. The coach started him the first games until big Rom made the statement against USA by getting the win.

He was always very technical very natural. Takes a ball with ease can dribble can score. His father Mike Origi was a good striker for Genk back in the 90's, early 2000. Son Divock therefore played at Genk youth after following Eden Hazard's footsteps going to Lille, also a club known to develop young players. He's been always a great talent. Can do anything on the ball.

At Liverpool, actually a too big step for him, he was trusted by Klopp as a lucky charm kind of striker, coming in from the bench and scoring the most important clutch goals.

This has done his career no good. He should have gone from Lille to a club where the team is built around him so he could develop as a player. What we're seeing now is a super talented player that never really ripened, never really played 40-50 games in a season, you can say wasted talent.

Raw talent that Kompany could mold. If he would play often he could find some stability, get more connections with his teammates, make the runs. Seems like a good move. He's played and excelled at the very highest level before. Still has his best years ahead of him. If the will is there to perform and improve...

Would definitely make us alot stronger. Another technically gifted player. Good headers too.
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Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:32 am

Summerville was likely one of the alternatives to Tresor.

I thought £20m was a more than fair offer for him.

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Post by burnley007 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:36 am

Cole Palmer signed for Chelsea for £42m.

Why has he made that move? Any ideas?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:36 am

Anthonini wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:32 am
In his debut for the national team, world cup in Brazil, he was 19 years old and people(not me) preferred him over Lukaku who was on fire at Everton back then. The coach started him the first games until big Rom made the statement against USA by getting the win.

He was always very technical very natural. Takes a ball with ease can dribble can score. His father Mike Origi was a good striker for Genk back in the 90's, early 2000. Son Divock therefore played at Genk youth after following Eden Hazard's footsteps going to Lille, also a club known to develop young players. He's been always a great talent. Can do anything on the ball.

At Liverpool, actually a too big step for him, he was trusted by Klopp as a lucky charm kind of striker, coming in from the bench and scoring the most important clutch goals.

This has done his career no good. He should have gone from Lille to a club where the team is built around him so he could develop as a player. What we're seeing now is a super talented player that never really ripened, never really played 40-50 games in a season, you can say wasted talent.

Raw talent that Kompany could mold. If he would play often he could find some stability, get more connections with his teammates, make the runs. Seems like a good move. He's played and excelled at the very highest level before. Still has his best years ahead of him. If the will is there to perform and improve...

Would definitely make us alot stronger. Another technically gifted player. Good headers too.
Cheers for that. I remember him coming off the bench at Liverpool (just as you say Klopp used him) and scoring a very late winner against Everton possibly in the cup but that maybe as far as my knowledge of him goes.

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Post by warksclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:37 am

Much prefer wingers to whingers

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:37 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:07 am
I think it's more likely Origi goes to Forest as they were in for him last season but didn't quite get the deal over the line
Especially if they sell Johnson, he's almost guaranteed a start.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:41 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:37 am
Especially if they sell Johnson, he's almost guaranteed a start.
Hudson-odoi is the Johnson replacement

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:42 am

Murger wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am
I don’t understand why we’ve bid for Summerville. This fascination with wingers is bizarre.
I presume this bid was lodged when Tresor got cold feet.

But IF we are after another winger then I wouldn't be surprised to see Clarke from Sunderland now that he has let it be known he is unhappy with them.

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Post by summitclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:44 am

Surely we don't need another winger if we get Tresor. Or is Benny off?

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:44 am

Didn't Origi come off the bench in the game against Liverpool at Anfield which we won and was clean through and hit the bar with a golden chance to give them the lead ?

I'm not having a pop at all btw just trying to remember

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Post by Tall Paul » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:49 am

He's probably best known for the two goals against Barcelona to win the CL semi final after they were 3-0 down from the first leg.

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Post by Grimsdale » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:50 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:44 am
Didn't Origi come off the bench in the game against Liverpool at Anfield which we won and was clean through and hit the bar with a golden chance to give them the lead ?

I'm not having a pop at all btw just trying to remember
He started that game, got subbed off for Salah just before the hour mark.

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Post by Steddyman » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:53 am

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:36 am
Cole Palmer signed for Chelsea for £42m.

Why has he made that move? Any ideas?

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If it was any other club bidding for him, you can bet £20m was enough.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:53 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:37 am
Especially if they sell Johnson, he's almost guaranteed a start.
My thought also. Different style to Johnson but they could easily change to 4-4-2 and that is a dangerous front 2.
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Post by It Is What It Is » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:54 am

Big respect and credit to Alan Pace and the Board.
They have completely turned the club around with the very clever appointment of VK and their total unwavering backing of him.
We are negotiating and signing high quality players. Tresor and Origi etc..Spending £100 million already this window showing a massive sign of intent, something completely alien to my 62 years as a Claret.
AP & VK...the perfect combination.
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Post by gtclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:54 am

I don't know if this has been posted, Cole Palmer (who I fancied on loan at the beginning of the window)has been sold to Chelsea for £40m

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Post by SalouClaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am

summitclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:44 am
Surely we don't need another winger if we get Tresor. Or is Benny off?
Tresor won't be playing on the wing, and Benson has signed a new contract.
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Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:00 am

SalouClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am
Tresor won't be playing on the wing, and Benson has signed a new contract.
I’d imagine Tresor will play all across the front. Wing and central.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:01 am

SalouClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am
Tresor won't be playing on the wing, and Benson has signed a new contract.
Really?

I think it’s almost a certain that he will play on the left wing

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Post by Foshiznik » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:02 am

May have already been mentioned but THB has gone to Southampton on loan this morning unfortunately

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Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:04 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:02 am
May have already been mentioned but THB has gone to Southampton on loan this morning unfortunately
If both Ekdal & Bayer are back sooner than originally anticipated we wouldn't be able to accommodate him anyway.

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Post by Selby Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:04 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:02 am
May have already been mentioned but THB has gone to Southampton on loan this morning unfortunately
I genuinely believe that VK saw something in THB that stopped him bringing him back - decided he wasn't good enough

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Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:05 am

Luton trying to get Lokonga on loan, up to the player now.

We must have been the ones to pull out of that one.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:05 am

Spijed wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:04 am
If both Ekdal & Bayer are back sooner than originally anticipated we wouldn't be able to accommodate him anyway.
Plus Charlie who can slot in there if required, if he's still here if course..

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Post by ClaretAL » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:06 am

Tressor seemed to play as number 10 against us in the friendly but that is all I have seen of him

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Post by Foshiznik » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:06 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:05 am
Plus Charlie who can slot in there if required, if he's still here if course..
And we sign a left back

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Post by sjb » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:06 am

Some joker has altered Tresor's Wiki page to show his current club as Accrington Stanley.

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Post by claretlegend » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:07 am

Did Tresor play centrally or wide for Genk last year, does anyone know?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:07 am

Selby Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:04 am
I genuinely believe that VK saw something in THB that stopped him bringing him back - decided he wasn't good enough
That or the cost in fees and wages

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Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:07 am

Selby Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:04 am
I genuinely believe that VK saw something in THB that stopped him bringing him back - decided he wasn't good enough
I suspect already peaked would be a valid reason. We dont want to buy already peaked players at already peaked prices where no profit is to be made.

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Post by andyh » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:08 am

Tresor and Origi are great if they happen but irrelevant compared to more pressing problem. I’m still petrified we will go through the season without a left back. Please sign one.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:09 am

claretlegend wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:07 am
Did Tresor play centrally or wide for Genk last year, does anyone know?
90% from the wide left.

His most successful period of his career has been from the left wing.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:09 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:01 am
Really?

I think it’s almost a certain that he will play on the left wing
He predominantly plays on the left, you’re probably right about where he will mainly play here
Although he can get play in a few positions across the front

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Post by burnley007 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:09 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:05 am
Luton trying to get Lokonga on loan, up to the player now.

We must have been the ones to pull out of that one.
Nooooooooo!!!!

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Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:10 am

Athletic report on Cole Palmer to Chelsea suggesting he was ready to join us on a season long loan last month, deal was all set up but they’d just sold Mahrez so they were holding on.

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Post by ab1882 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:11 am

SalouClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am
Tresor won't be playing on the wing, and Benson has signed a new contract.
Interesting article on the Athletic about Tresor yesterday, “I have always been a No 10 by nature,” Tresor told Transfermarkt in March. “I have always had this altruistic nature, this vision of the game, to serve my team-mates.”. Tresor sees himself as a No 10, but that didn’t stop him from racking up the goals and assists from the left wing last season. “Playing as a left-winger but still having this freedom to come inside and ask for the ball, that’s where I can bring the most to the team,” he told Eleven Sports. Starting on the left, Tresor often roamed inside when the ball was on the other side of the pitch, looking to overload the central areas and offer himself as a passing option.

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Post by Grimsdale » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:11 am

Mike McGrath at the Telegraph reporting that we've have had a loan plus obligation bid rejected by Sunderland for Dan Neil and are weighing up another offer

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:11 am

Cody Drameh who was on the wish list of some has gone to Birmingham on loan

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:12 am

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:36 am
Cole Palmer signed for Chelsea for £42m.

Why has he made that move? Any ideas?

£££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
Pep basically said recently that they won’t loan Palmer out, it’s either a sale or he stays but there was no guarantee he would be regularly playing/first choice

Plus selling him is good for City in regards to FFP

In all fairness to Poch, he will probably give Palmer more of a chance

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Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:12 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:07 am
I suspect already peaked would be a valid reason. We dont want to buy already peaked players at already peaked prices where no profit is to be made.
But, and a big but, we still have to acquire players that will not just make a profit, but will help us stay in the Premier league. That minor detail seems to have got lost a bit.

Pointless just buying players to sell on at a profit if we get relegated this season.
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Post by Steddyman » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:12 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:02 am
May have already been mentioned but THB has gone to Southampton on loan this morning unfortunately
May have already been mentioned, but Declan Rice has gone to Arsenal on a permanent

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:13 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:11 am
Mike McGrath at the Telegraph reporting that we've have had a loan plus obligation bid rejected by Sunderland for Dan Neil and are weighing up another offer
Wasn’t he linked with us at the beginning of the year?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:13 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:09 am
He predominantly plays on the left, you’re probably right about where he will mainly play here
Although he can get play in a few positions across the front
No doubt, I suspect his base position will be left wing but he will float across the midfield

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:14 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:11 am
Mike McGrath at the Telegraph reporting that we've have had a loan plus obligation bid rejected by Sunderland for Dan Neil and are weighing up another offer
I’ve watched him play a few times, he’s a really good player (but raw though). A few of my mates think he’s going to be a top player

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:16 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:13 am
No doubt, I suspect his base position will be left wing but he will float across the midfield
Correct, that's what the article says, which is a direct contradiction of what you just said. :?
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Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:16 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:11 am
Mike McGrath at the Telegraph reporting that we've have had a loan plus obligation bid rejected by Sunderland for Dan Neil and are weighing up another offer
Quite like Neil. Interesting move.

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