Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Jeffbfc » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:40 pm

Sky sports saying Maatsen deal done with a 31.5 mil buy clause

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:42 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:40 pm
Surely it’s only the obligation part Maatsen is bothered about, he will want to be able to have options open in the summer to go back to Chelsea or sign elsewhere if we don’t stay up, after the year Maatsen had with us and he now doesn’t want to sign we shouldn’t of waited till deadline day for him
Probably cause of how he’s been getting some minutes with them. Might have turned his head a bit and think he’s a bit above us now (kinda understandable)… but I hope not. He’s got a fan base here that back him and manager who showed how much he can develop him.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:43 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:42 pm
Probably cause of how he’s been getting some minutes with them. Might have turned his head a bit and think he’s a bit above us now (kinda understandable)… but I hope not. He’s got a fan base here that back him and manager who showed how much he can develop him.
You might well be right, would of thought his mindset of coming on for last 10min of games for Chelsea doesn’t really mean anything

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Post by burnley007 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:43 pm

I doubt VK won't have been speaking to Maatsen regularly over the summer.

I would imagine the question marks are from the start of the season, where he was saying the right things about trying to get into the Chelsea team.

It'll be all agreed, I have no doubt, just the fee that was the issue.

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Post by Steddyman » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:44 pm

Gone worryingly quiet on Trezor, given he was supposedly having a medical at 9am

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:44 pm

The expectation is Ian Maatsen will choose to stay at #Chelsea, despite the deal agreed with Burnley.

(@Matt_Law_DT)

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Post by CoolClaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:45 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:35 pm
On the other hand, you seem like the type who can't wait to say "I told you so".
The last thing I want to do is say ‘told you so’ if we end up like Pompey (or worse) mate.
Vegas Claret wrote:
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they are responsible to their investors though. They wont want to fail and I doubt VK would have extended his deal if he thought they were mucking about
They are. Plenty of firms that have been responsible to their investors have gone belly up as well.

Football is absolutely bonkers man.

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Post by Steddyman » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:46 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:44 pm
The expectation is Ian Maatsen will choose to stay at #Chelsea, despite the deal agreed with Burnley.

(@Matt_Law_DT)
Would have been nice of him to tell Vinny at the start of the transfer window.

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Post by Ziggy Stardust » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:46 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:07 pm
He WAS a left back at our level, but we got promoted from the Championship to the EPL... Perhaps you missed that?

Yes I must of! He's a modern attacking fullback who not the best defender. He's still young and can improve. If you want a full back that does both they cost a lot of money. He's going to be the best we get at our level, footballing and financially as well.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:46 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:44 pm
The expectation is Ian Maatsen will choose to stay at #Chelsea, despite the deal agreed with Burnley.

(@Matt_Law_DT)
Haha what an absolute disaster

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Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:46 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:44 pm
The expectation is Ian Maatsen will choose to stay at #Chelsea, despite the deal agreed with Burnley.

(@Matt_Law_DT)
That’s pretty disappointing from him it must be said… in the sense that he’s clearly given us false impressions.

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Post by Sleeping Cat » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:47 pm

Maatsen played pre-season & has been in the squad, getting a few mins from the bench in the first 3 games. You could understand him thinking he could stay and battle for a place in that Chelsea team.

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Post by Firthy » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:47 pm

We also agreed a deal for Lokonga and look how that turned out.

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Post by BigGaz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:47 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:34 pm
I liked him but there is surely better around for that sort of money.
I take your point and I’m with you on cost but I’m not actually sure that there is you know. Elite left backs, or those with elite potential, I can’t think of too many anymore.

It’s another massive gamble of course but if he continues his rate of progression then there is yet another one of our players that could easily go for 50m + in future.

(If he signs)

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:47 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:45 pm
Football is absolutely bonkers man.
ain't that the truth, very much in it's own worrying bubble

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:47 pm

Maatsen has 12 months left on his contract, if he joins us on loan for the season how can they sell him for any money let alone 31m surley he becomes a free

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:47 pm

If Maatsen and his agent have lead us on all summer then it’s one of them things but after orsic I didn’t expect us to hang around for anyone

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:35 pm
On the other hand, you seem like the type who can't wait to say "I told you so".
Literally my thoughts 😂
Mr negative on everything

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Post by BigGaz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:48 pm

The thought of going through a PL season with Al-Dakhil and Vitinho as our two main left backs, assuming CT is out of the picture, concerns me.

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Post by agreenwood » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:49 pm

Maatsen isn’t going to start many/any PL games for Chelsea this season.

If he’s happy with that, good luck to him.

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Post by buzzclarets79 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:49 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:40 pm
Surely it’s only the obligation part Maatsen is bothered about, he will want to be able to have options open in the summer to go back to Chelsea or sign elsewhere if we don’t stay up, after the year Maatsen had with us and he now doesn’t want to sign we shouldn’t of waited till deadline day for him
Yes we waited until the last possible moment before trying to sign him :roll:

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Post by Wembley09 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:49 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:46 pm
Would have been nice of him to tell Vinny at the start of the transfer window.
Things change quickly in football. Maybe recently he fancies his chances at Chelsea?
On twitter lots of Chelsea fans are calling for him to stay.
The Chelsea fans are slating Cucurella's performance midweek, and want Maatsen ahead of him.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:49 pm

Bournemouth have agreed a deal to sign Luis Sinisterra from Leeds.

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Post by buzzclarets79 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:50 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:48 pm
The thought of going through a PL season with Al-Dakhil and Vitinho as our two main left backs, assuming CT is out of the picture, concerns me.
Is Claret Tony a Left Back? :D
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Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:50 pm

Bournemouth signing Sinisterra from Leeds. Another good one from them.

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Post by BobSykes » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:50 pm

Series 2 of Mission to Burnley will be a corker won't it...

The Maatsen news over the past 20 minutes is like when VAR belatedly cancels your 90th minute winner! Poor on Maatsen's part if we've wasted the summer in a pointless pursuit of him!

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Post by ervi34 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:50 pm

I'm really surprised with the fact that he was pretty much our only LB target the whole summer and we found out on the last day that he is not interested in coming back. Hopefully there is an alternative.
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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:51 pm

Too much for Maatsen that, hope it doesn't go through

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:51 pm

Can’t see pep letting Gomez go at city, he can play on the wing to so city will probs use him at some point in the season

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Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm

Sounds like maatsen doesn't want the move but Chelsea have agreed fee. Would love it to happen but for right reasons

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Post by summitclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm

Sounds like his agent is playing hardball. Also, my guess is that the fee put about by Chelsea includes a 1 year loan fee.

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Post by forzagranata » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm

Maatsen isn't keen is the latest report

https://twitter.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/ ... 6140?s=20
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Post by LongsideClaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm

Nearly fell off my chair when I read we’d agreed £31.5m. Safe to say the guaranteed fee is considerably less. Regardless, I’ve been told it’s still looking more likely than not he remains at Chelsea.

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Post by Murger » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:53 pm

If he’s happy to be a bench warmer, then ******** to him.

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Post by Firthy » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:53 pm

My only disappointment this window will be if we pinned all our hopes on Maatsen and end up with just Taylor as a recognised LB

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Post by willsclarets » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:54 pm

come on Ian, if you set the prem alight you'll be back off to a massive club within a year or two!

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:54 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm
Nearly fell off my chair when I read we’d agreed £31.5m. Safe to say the guaranteed fee is considerably less. Regardless, I’ve been told it’s still looking more likely than not he remains at Chelsea.
Surely we have other left back targets we can quickly move on to?

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Post by willsclarets » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:54 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm
Nearly fell off my chair when I read we’d agreed £31.5m. Safe to say the guaranteed fee is considerably less. Regardless, I’ve been told it’s still looking more likely than not he remains at Chelsea.
gutted

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Post by Wembley09 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:55 pm

Says here he's reluctant to move https://twitter.com/JacobSteinberg/stat ... 6577102296

Can also see in the comments that alot of Chelsea fans want him to stay.

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Post by forzagranata » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:57 pm

I don't think he is reluctant to move. I think he wants to move.

It is more likely that personal terms have not yet been agreed between BFC and Maatsen. That can be sorted.

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Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:57 pm

Surely we must have spoken to both Maatsen AND his agent before entering negotiations with Chelsea and received favourable feedback regarding a permanent move.

Wonder why a change of mind so late in the day

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:58 pm

Is Wembley09 posting from Cape Verde, he seems to be an hour behind everyone else?
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Post by ArmchairDetective » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:58 pm

Reports that he is reluctant to come here may well be true. But it could also be his agent trying to get the best personal terms he can. Particularly if there is some truth in him being unsure.

Similar thing happened last night with Tresor.

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Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:58 pm

he's also cup tied - not sure I want him now as he wont be able to play against Salford in the cup
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Post by forzagranata » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:59 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:57 pm
Surely we must have spoken to both Maatsen AND his agent before entering negotiations with Chelsea and received favourable feedback regarding a permanent move.

Wonder why a change of mind so late in the day
There's a difference between sounding him out about interest in a move and finalising personal terms.

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Post by claretlegend » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:59 pm

We'll that was short-lived. Hopefully we have a plan B for left back.

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Post by Pearcey » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:59 pm

Does anyone know if Maatsen is reluctant to move? Can’t see it anywhere!

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Post by Wembley09 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:59 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:57 pm
I don't think he is reluctant to move. I think he wants to move.

It is more likely that personal terms have not yet been agreed between BFC and Maatsen. That can be sorted.
Yeah I'm hoping so, just a little worried as a few are going around saying he doesn't want to move.
Hope it's all just speculation, as like you said why would Chelsea publicly say they've agreed to let Maatsen leave (unless they are trying to force him to move)
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Post by summitclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:00 pm

Last minute try on by his agent? Hold your nerves guys.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:00 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm
Nearly fell off my chair when I read we’d agreed £31.5m. Safe to say the guaranteed fee is considerably less. Regardless, I’ve been told it’s still looking more likely than not he remains at Chelsea.
Any other options?

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