Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[ksrclaret]

More puzzling is all those who follow all of these social media accounts, looking to be the first to get a crumb of information.

I don't disagree there

[tally]

we will be all right....Saudi window doesn't close for another week

[123EasyasBFC]

Fair to say if we are to sign anybody else other than tresor today then they need to already be playing in England, we don’t have time for someone to fly over for a medical now

[Wembley09]

Anyone who turns down Milan for Bournemouth needs their head checking tbh

I think Milan backed out of the deal..

AC Milan have dropped their pursuit of Patson Daka due to their inability to get the deal done in time and are now closing in on another target, a report claims.

In the last hour we relayed a report from Sky claiming that Milan have reached an agreement with Leicester over the figures and formula of the operation with Daka over personal terms. Thus, a race against time to get the green light for a work permit began.

However, the latest twist from Sky is that the bureaucratic registration times will take too long to try and get Daka, so Milan have moved away from the Zambia international and on to another target.

The player in question is 26-year-old Sevilla striker Rafa Mir. The player has already given the green light to join the Rossoneri, now Milan will have to sort out the details with Sevilla and thus definitively close the operation.

[forzagranata]

What is now crystal clear is that VK wanted both Maatsen and Tella.

If we end up with neither it's not because VK didn't think they were good enough for the PL/'moved on' or whatever other theories we've seen.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Fair to say if we are to sign anybody else other than tresor today then they need to already be playing in England, we don’t have time for someone to fly over for a medical now

Medical doesn’t have to be done in England

[Vegas Claret]

there are deffo some people that would complain if we won the Premier League by 1 point that it wasn't 2

[Firthy]

Some of our fans should be certified.

Which is an improvement on some of the SD signings which should have been certified.

[Milltown1882]

I think Milan backed out of the deal..

AC Milan have dropped their pursuit of Patson Daka due to their inability to get the deal done in time and are now closing in on another target, a report claims.

In the last hour we relayed a report from Sky claiming that Milan have reached an agreement with Leicester over the figures and formula of the operation with Daka over personal terms. Thus, a race against time to get the green light for a work permit began.

However, the latest twist from Sky is that the bureaucratic registration times will take too long to try and get Daka, so Milan have moved away from the Zambia international and on to another target.

The player in question is 26-year-old Sevilla striker Rafa Mir. The player has already given the green light to join the Rossoneri, now Milan will have to sort out the details with Sevilla and thus definitively close the operation.

He's signing for Bournemouth.

[Newcastleclaret93]

So at the moment in this window we have recruited an overload of widemen of whom only so many can play at any one time, but still struggling to bring in a LB. We recruited a GK for £19m which wasn't a priority, still light on the CM that we needed and missed out on a number of players who it was claimed would be incoming or changed their mind at the last minute and of course didn't recruit our leading goalscorer Tella. Although we recruited Amdouni the strikers still look a bit on the light side. The Lokonga situation is also an insult, going to Luton. Given we spent so much money, much more than ever before I am not sure the recruitment has been as good as it should and could have been. Hopefully Tresor is finalised and Maatsen is convinced to come but all in all this last week has been a bit of a disappointment.

Some fair comments. Not sure you can class a window where we spent so much money as a disappointing one. However I do agree there are some pretty blinding gaps.

Genuinely quite concerning that we are one injury away from Al Dakhil and Delcroix being our starting full backs in the prem.

I’m sure if the players were available VK would have got them. Unfortunately they some times just don’t happen

[123EasyasBFC]

Medical doesn’t have to be done in England

You’d imagine the club would want the same person to do the medical who has done all the others at the club

[Commy]

Maatsen wouldn't sign a contract at Chelsea but he wants to stay to challenge for a place. It doesn't make sense. Probably more to do with money.

[Wembley09]

He's signing for Bournemouth.

Yeah, I was responding to Ric who said he needs his head checking for turning down Milan for Bournemouth
I think Milan turned him down (that article I quoted was from 5 hours ago)

[willsclarets]

You’d imagine the club would want the same person to do the medical who has done all the others at the club

I'd imagine anyone who plays left back and has a pulse will be fine.

[LaLigaClaret]

I really do hope that you realise this makes you look like a right fanny eh?

What just because every word I wrote is true and cannot be disputed. I suspect you were looking in the mirror when you made your comment. Yet another knuckle scraping caveman beating his chest and grunting. Moron.

[warksclaret]

Just under 5 hours for Clive Holt to get that fax machine warmed up

[Gazclaret83]

I honestly think we're okay. Yeah a left back would have been good but kompany thinks different or it would have been soreted earlier. Just think we need to play 3 in the middle. A mid field of Cullen brownhill berge as a 3 sounds solid to me. Berge further forward

[ClaretAL]

I still think Taylor can do a job at LB. Some of our best games/results in the premier league came from the Taylor McNeil partnership and we have similar if not better left wingers.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Origi to Forest (loan deal )

I called that one earlier

Apparently he had a medical for Forest in Italy earlier in the day

[Wembley09]

there are deffo some people that would complain if we won the Premier League by 1 point that it wasn't 2

I always remember Stan Ternent bemoaning certain sections of Burnley fans, claiming even if they were top of the Premier League they'd be moaning.
This was after they were complaining and booing at some of his substitutions (in a game we ended up winning too) despite us at the time being clear at the top of the Championship (division 1 back then)

Something along the lines of Champagne tastes on beer money

[Pearcey]

Off out ont lash in Norwich now. Have a good in. 2 in, one being a left back is my prediction. UTC.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Joao Cancelo getting a game at moment ?

[Tricky Trevor]

No idea what you're on about but you're right.

His club colours are blue.

[iw1961]

So at the moment in this window we have recruited an overload of widemen of whom only so many can play at any one time, but still struggling to bring in a LB. We recruited a GK for £19m which wasn't a priority, still light on the CM that we needed and missed out on a number of players who it was claimed would be incoming or changed their mind at the last minute and of course didn't recruit our leading goalscorer Tella. Although we recruited Amdouni the strikers still look a bit on the light side. The Lokonga situation is also an insult, going to Luton. Given we spent so much money, much more than ever before I am not sure the recruitment has been as good as it should and could have been. Hopefully Tresor is finalised and Maatsen is convinced to come but all in all this last week has been a bit of a disappointment.

Not sure why people are critical of this. It's a fair summary. We have bought players with potential, we don't yet know how many of the new ones are premier league players, time will tell.
For my part the biggest concern is the lack of a captain. Cullen is not the man for the job. He lacks the organisational ability to react on the pitch. Good players don't necessarily make good captains.
I expect we will be under the cosh tomorrow, hopefully someone will step up.

[warksclaret]

I still think Taylor can do a job at LB. Some of our best games/results in the premier league came from the Taylor McNeil partnership and we have similar if not better left wingers.

Not sure if you went to Forest Wednesday, but I did and it was a sad reminder that Charlie, despite his loyalty to us , is just not in tune in what is required as a LB in this team.Very ponderous, lacking in ideas going forward, but must admit he can defend when we are under the cosh. If Maatsen does not join he may end up playing for us by elimination

[123EasyasBFC]

Not sure if you went to Forest Wednesday, but I did and it was a sad reminder that Charlie, despite his loyalty to us , is just not in tune in what is required as a LB in this team.Very ponderous, lacking in ideas going forward, but must admit he can defend when we are under the cosh. If Maatsen does not join he may end up playing for us by elimination

Which all might be true but whilst we have games against spurs, united, Newcastle and Chelsea surely having an actual left back who is a pretty good defender isn’t such a bad idea

[Spiral]

We've 'overloaded' on wide attackers probably because attacking players are the ones who tend to become most profitable. Don't think of all our dealings as only preparing us for the next 36 games, think of the abundance of attacking signings as multiple items being placed on a conveyor belt. We've not only got the first choice's (whoever emerges as that) replacement ready and integrated for when the first choice goes, but we've also got the replacement's replacement ready, too. In particular with regards to Odobert and Koleosho, I'm absolutely convinced they were brought in with an eye on them being the natural replacements once Zaroury and Benny go, and I think Koleosho has only started because of some other options being limited (Benny's injury stalling his pre-season, Zaroury's red) and him doing well in pre-season, but he's still raw and can develop more.

So we've got Larsen and Redmond as reliable 'now signings' in the even of Zaroury and Benny not being available, but we can bed-in Koleosho and Odobert while we're at it. I think the so-called relative dearth of activity in other areas of the pitch such as fullback, CDM and the No9 position is only seen that way because activity has been so high in wide attacking areas of the pitch, but we've actually brought numbers in at CDM, CB, GK and up front, with a LB still to come in and another 'now' attacker in Tresor coming in. Some of the fees are insane by our standards, and I hope it all works out because we're in serious trouble if it doesn't, but insofar as squad composition is concerned if we get Maatsen and Tresor through the door I honestly think this has been an incredible window for us, probably our best ever, where we have at once been able to drastically improve the squad depth, notably improve the starting XI, and also put future players on the conveyor belt. Three-pronged transfer activity: XI, squad, and future, all improved, all in one window.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Which all might be true but whilst we have games against spurs, united, Newcastle and Chelsea surely having an actual left back who is a pretty good defender isn’t such a bad idea

From a tactical point of few it completely changes the whole set up of the team though.

Because he is pretty poor at distributing the ball and can’t use his right foot it means we have change personal to accommodate him.

I suspect if Taylor is starting games it will be as the third CB. Which will result in someone like JBG or Larsen having to play as a wing back

[Cooclaret]

We’re not done yet.

[123EasyasBFC]

From a tactical point of few it completely changes the whole set up of the team though.

Because he is pretty poor at distributing the ball and can’t use his right foot it means we have change personal to accommodate him.

I suspect if Taylor is starting games it will be as the third CB. Which will result in someone like JBG or Larsen having to play as a wing back

The first half against Villa, delcroix wasn’t playing as an inverted full back he was playing as a traditional left back and played simple passes to koleosho and Cullen but was caught out positioning, Taylor could of easily played that first half role

[Gazclaret83]

Tresor hopefully

[Spiral]

Genuinely quite concerning that we are one injury away from Al Dakhil and Delcroix being our starting full backs in the prem.

If Beyer, Ekdal and O'Shea were all injured at the same time, that's three first choice CBs all out, and I don't necessarily think that's an indictment of our transfer activity, because you look at any club in the world, take out three of their best central defenders, they also start to look like they've got a crisis too, in spite of otherwise perfect transfer activity. You could apply the same logic to the GK position. If both get injured at the same time, it doesn't mean we've under-invested in the position.

[Vegas Claret]

We’re not done yet.

hey now come on, we don't like logic on this thread

[SalisburyClaret]

I know we need a left back but offering £34m for Maatsen was insane.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If Beyer, Ekdal and O'Shea were all injured at the same time, that's three first choice CBs all out, and I don't necessarily think that's an indictment of our transfer activity, because you look at any club in the world, take out three of their best central defenders, they also start to look like they've got a crisis too, in spite of otherwise perfect transfer activity. You could apply the same logic to the GK position. If both get injured at the same time, it doesn't mean we've under-invested in the position.

I’m talking about left back and Roght back.

If Roberts gets injured them two will start in them positions

[Newcastleclaret93]

The first half against Villa, delcroix wasn’t playing as an inverted full back he was playing as a traditional left back and played simple passes to koleosho and Cullen but was caught out positioning, Taylor could of easily played that first half role

I appreciate that but I also think that highlights the problem.

We couldn’t play the system we wanted because we haven’t got a ball playing LB. Which lead to our shape being all over the place.

I think a LB is absolutely critical to our league finish this season

[AfloatinClaret]

I find myself more curious about outgoings then incomings.

I think the Championship/D1 window's open for another week, so no news is good news with regard to my particular fears (Benson/Cullen/Muric) as those, along with Charlie Taylor and Josh Brownhill are all that are likely to attract EPL attention; the rest we'll hear about next week, with the departures being in part dependent on who finally arrives.

[forzagranata]

We are right on the line at the moment between 'great window' and 'failed window' - no LB, no CM and no CF, no Maatsen, no THB and no Tella - with money unnecessarily thrown elsewhere.

But get Maatsen, Kalvin Phillips and a good centre-forward through the door in the next few hours and we will have had a cracking window.

[agreenwood]

Enough of the analysis until 11pm.

Some folk are willing every deal to fall through so they can have a good moan. I don’t need to name them. It’s all over this thread.

[123EasyasBFC]

I appreciate that but I also think that highlights the problem.

We couldn’t play the system we wanted because we haven’t got a ball playing LB. Which lead to our shape being all over the place.

I think a LB is absolutely critical to our league finish this season

It does highlight the problem but kompany obviously instructed delcroix to play as a more traditional full back and surely Taylor is a better option there.

Completely agree we need a new LB to play the system.

We might even need to now sign that American Cannon purely for squad depth in them areas

[Spiral]

I’m talking about left back and Roght back.

If Roberts gets injured them two will start in them positions

O'Shea can play RB. Probably not an inverted fullback, but he can play RB. O'Shea, Ameen, Delcroix, Taylor. I mean, it's not exactly as progressive as a team with Beyer and Roberts in it, but it's not exactly a disaster of a line-up either.

[123EasyasBFC]

We are right on the line at the moment between 'great window' and 'failed window' - no LB, no CM and no CF, no Maatsen, no THB and no Tella - with money unnecessarily thrown elsewhere.

But get Maatsen, Kalvin Phillips and a good centre-forward through the door in the next few hours and we will have had a cracking window.

Massango signing seems to put to bed any CM links

[AfloatinClaret]

...I think a (ball-playing) LB is absolutely critical to our league finish this season

Which in our current system I'll concede is not Charlie Taylor's strong suit. Coversely, i think there will be as many, perhaps more matches where what we really need is a left back who can actually 'defend' and for me CT is streets ahead of Maatsen in that department

[warksclaret]

Be interesting to see where Lakongo ends up .This has been a crazy window

[jojomk1]

I still think Taylor can do a job at LB. Some of our best games/results in the premier league came from the Taylor McNeil partnership and we have similar if not better left wingers.

But apparently VK doesn't

Plus McNeil now plays for Everton

[Goody1975]

We are right on the line at the moment between 'great window' and 'failed window' - no LB, no CM and no CF, no Maatsen, no THB and no Tella - with money unnecessarily thrown elsewhere.

But get Maatsen, Kalvin Phillips and a good centre-forward through the door in the next few hours and we will have had a cracking window.

We signed a CM last night.

Whether or not you rate him is a different matter.

[Spiral]

Again, we can hypothesise about three first choice defenders all being injured at once, but bar Man City alone probably, even if you look at a team like Chelsea or Liverpool or Barcelona, take three first team defenders out of the picture and their system is gonna be affected too. You can't adequately prepare for that, you can only manage it when it happens, regardless of who you are. Every club would love three players in every position, but you can only name 25, plus some young players on top if it.

[Boxy]

Be interesting to see where Lakongo ends up .This has been a crazy window

He's going luton on loan

[claretdj]

Be interesting to see where Lakongo ends up .This has been a crazy window

He signing for Luton.

[Casper2]

I know we need a left back but offering £34m for Maatsen was insane.

We haven’t offered £34m