Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[RVclaret]

By the way aren't we still short a good passing, defensive CM. and looking likely not to get one ?

We just signed Massengo

[ecc]

If this story about Maatsen is true ie he doesn't want to come and the fee would be £31m then he can do one and bugger off to West Ham.

[northeastclaret]

It has gone far too quiet on Tresor. Got an uneasy feeling about it

I would think no news is good news at this stage

[buzzclarets79]

SSN live at Turf Moor reports Tresor to be completed tonight.

[Rileybobs]

If the Maatsen deal is loan with a buy obligation then it could be a case of Maatsen not being keen on signing for god knows how much, knowing that in the event of relegation next summer, having just spent god knows how much on him in June we'd probably be unlikely to let him move to a prem club that same window. This was my theory with the Coulibaly deal. Player doesn't want to be tied to the potential of Championship football, something that is more likely if the fee is paid next summer. There's less flexibility, little room for manoeuvre for the player. I think it makes a difference if the fee is paid now, because after a (hopefully decent) season in the prem, if we're relegated we'd probably be more willing to sell than if we'd just paid whatever fee a few weeks prior to any potential sale.

Or perhaps considering the late hournwe could just loan him with no future purchase conditions? That may suit all parties, although probably Chelsea least of all.

[bfcjg]

the guy literally went around and fed 5 families in Burnley on Christmas day last year. The last thing he is is too big for his boots or arrogant. If he thinks he can make it at Chelsea he would be mental to join Burnley, can't fault or criticize the lad for backing himself. The only criticism here would be pointed at us if we don't have a plan B

If he thinks he is good enough for Chelsea fair enough which is why I stated personal reasons.

[Vegas Claret]

SSN live at Turf Moor reports Tresor to be completed tonight.

https://twitter.com/footballdaily/statu ... 66830?s=20

[eastcoastclaret]

Or perhaps considering the late hournwe could just loan him with no future purchase conditions? That may suit all parties, although probably Chelsea least of all.

I had wondered if this is where we will end up.

[Vegas Claret]

We just signed Massengo

enough with the facts bro

[Somethingfishy]

If the Maatsen deal is loan with a buy obligation then it could be a case of Maatsen not being keen on signing for god knows how much, knowing that in the event of relegation next summer, having just spent god knows how much on him in June we'd probably be unlikely to let him move to a prem club that same window. This was my theory with the Coulibaly deal. Player doesn't want to be tied to the potential of Championship football, something that is more likely if the fee is paid next summer. There's less flexibility, little room for manoeuvre for the player. I think it makes a difference if the fee is paid now, because after a (hopefully decent) season in the prem, if we're relegated we'd probably be more willing to sell than if we'd just paid whatever fee a few weeks prior to any potential sale.

Isn't it only an obligation if we stay up? I'd be stunned if we were having to pay such a large wedge out having been relegated. Can't see us arranging a deal like thar.

[forzagranata]

We just signed Massengo

VK said yesterday that we are looking at two kinds of signings. Those to make a first team impact straight away and those underneath that as part of the next generation. I'd suggest Massengo is in the latter category.

Sadly doesn't look like we were successful in the attempt to get Kalvin Phillips. He has turned down other opportunities too. A season on the bench for him awaits. What a waste.

[boatshed bill]

VK said yesterday that we are looking at two kinds of signings. Those to make a first team impact straight away and those underneath that as part of the next generation. I'd suggest Massengo is in the latter category.

Sadly doesn't look like we were successful in the attempt to get Kalvin Phillips. He has turned down other opportunities too. A season on the bench for him awaits. What a waste.

Is it a case of overpaid players not willing to take a cut?

[forzagranata]

Is it a case of overpaid players not willing to take a cut?

I don't know if its the money or just a reluctance to leave Man City and give up on the chance of playing for the best team in the world.

I'd imagine it would be structured so he'd still get his money so must be the latter.

[NewClaret]

Some of the posts on this thread tonight

[123EasyasBFC]

We must of had news they Beyer and Ekdal won’t be out to long because to try for dier and the lad from benfica on loan and then just stop

[Hedontplayforyou]

Egan-Riley on loan to PSV?

Thought he was injured for a while .

[Spiral]

Isn't it only an obligation if we stay up? I'd be stunned if we were having to pay such a large wedge out having been relegated. Can't see us arranging a deal like thar.

I don't think there's any way Chelsea would agree to a deal where we are only obliged to pay on the condition of survival, because Maatsen is out of contract next season so they'd only get tribunal compensation (which is miniscule compared to a transfer fee) if we get relegated and he moves away next summer.

[Selby Claret]

Does the loan window shut tonight as well?

Sorry if this has been asked previously

[Tricky Trevor]

I like KP but he’s behind Rice for England and Rodri for City. He needs to get his head in gear and start playing football.
Unless he’s happy taking the wedge at City and picking up gongs for sitting on the bench and a Summer at the WC/EC every2 years.

[Spiral]

Does the loan window shut tonight as well?

Sorry if this has been asked previously

99.9% sure it is for PL clubs. EFL clubs can loan for a while longer, but not PL. I think the logic is that the EFL get the players the PL clubs can't fit in their named squad lists when the dust has all settles on the transfer window proper.

[BobSykes]

Well today hasn't really gone to plan has it.

Hoped for 4 , currently stands at zilch. Has Tresor left on a jet plane or still haggling with us down to the wire? At 3 hours to go you'd have to doubt us getting it over the line.

Really don't know what to make of this bigger than envisaged summer rebuild whatever transpires by 11pm. It worked marvellously last season, but serious questions about what the plan is here. Exciting for sure but worrying given the early results and fixture list!

[kentonclaret]

Some of the posts on this thread tonight

Anticipation leads to Frustration leads to Desperation and lastly Resignation.

[LaLigaClaret]

We just signed Massengo

Now give your head a wobble. Really ? Seriously ? He is not what we need as an upgrade on Cork or Brownhill to partner Cullen or Berge. He has possible development potential at the moment you numpty.

[wilks_bfc]

https://twitter.com/footballdaily/statu ... 66830?s=20

I’ve a feeling you may be closer to Turf Moor than he is

[arise_sir_charge]

VK said yesterday that we are looking at two kinds of signings. Those to make a first team impact straight away and those underneath that as part of the next generation. I'd suggest Massengo is in the latter category.

Sadly doesn't look like we were successful in the attempt to get Kalvin Phillips. He has turned down other opportunities too. A season on the bench for him awaits. What a waste.

I think Massengo could be a regular feature in the short to medium term. He’s very highly rated and by all accounts was outstanding for Auxerre.

[TheFamilyCat]

I like KP but he’s behind Rice for England and Rodri for City. He needs to get his head in gear and start playing football.
Unless he’s happy taking the wedge at City and picking up gongs for sitting on the bench and a Summer at the WC/EC every2 years.

Shame that Southgate didn't leave him out of the England squad citing that he needs to be playing regularly to be picked. Although if that had been the case, I'm sure bigger fish than us would have tempted him.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Now give your head a wobble. Really ? Seriously ? He is not what we need as an upgrade on Cork or Brownhill to partner Cullen or Berge. He has possible development potential at the moment you numpty.

Steady on…

[Cleveleys_claret]

Maatsen to Southampton to join THB on loan when he doesnt make the Chelsea squad

[Spiral]

Now give your head a wobble. Really ? Seriously ? He is not what we need as an upgrade on Cork or Brownhill to partner Cullen or Berge. He has possible development potential at the moment you numpty.

Nice of you to write Massengo off before most of us have even had the chance to remembered his name

[Vegas Claret]

Now give your head a wobble. Really ? Seriously ? He is not what we need as an upgrade on Cork or Brownhill to partner Cullen or Berge. He has possible development potential at the moment you numpty.

[arise_sir_charge]

Does the loan window shut tonight as well?

Sorry if this has been asked previously

Excellent, no transfer deadline day is complete without the annual “loan window” question.

I can now rest easy.

[LaLigaClaret]

As a PL team we can't even complete a loan deal for players based in our leagues when we need some positions to be strengthened. Pathetic really.

[Swizzlestick]

BobSykes! There’s a blast from the past. The original and best - he walked so LaLigaClaret could run.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I think that’s the bingo card filled now

[Ampth7]

VK said yesterday that we are looking at two kinds of signings. Those to make a first team impact straight away and those underneath that as part of the next generation. I'd suggest Massengo is in the latter category.

Sadly doesn't look like we were successful in the attempt to get Kalvin Phillips. He has turned down other opportunities too. A season on the bench for him awaits. What a waste.

I’m going to go out on a limb here by suggesting that Massengo will quickly become a terrific signing for us. My reason for this is because a close friend of mine is a Bristol City season ticket holder who reckons this lad is class and was gutted to see him leave. I wouldn’t normally take these opinions too seriously, but he knows his stuff, attends every game, and he was very quick to identify Alex Scott as a serious talent a few years ago way before anyone else!

It goes without saying that there are no guarantees, but I would rather take his opinion over some journalist who watched him on YouTube.

[LaLigaClaret]

Nice of you to write Massengo off before most of us have even had the chance to remembered his name

Haven't written him off but not having expectations he will be the player we turn to keeping us in the PL. I repeat he has development potential for the future but not as a first team choice in the PL this season.

[Spiral]

Maatsen to Southampton to join THB on loan when he doesnt make the Chelsea squad

There's no way Chelsea do a season long loan without him signing a contract. It's possible he misses a move this window and goes somewhere in the January window on a permanent, but either way Chelsea will be desperate to get some money for him if he decides against signing a new contract. If we don't get him he'll be on the fringes of the Chelsea squad for a few months then everything will be reassessed. This suits Maatsen personally to a degree, because he might break into the squad between now and then, and the worst case scenario is by January he's in the same situation as he is now.

[buzzclarets79]

Now give your head a wobble. Really ? Seriously ? He is not what we need as an upgrade on Cork or Brownhill to partner Cullen or Berge. He has possible development potential at the moment you numpty.

Massengo has played at international level for France at U17, U18, U19, U20 & U21 and has over 100 senior appearances, 100 for Bristol City.
I’d say he’s ready for first team.

[Blyclaret]

Did nobody from Burnley ask Maatsen. Do you want to sign for Burnley. Jesus would have saved a lot time … then we could have moved on to a new target.

[arise_sir_charge]

Does anyone live close to LaLigaClaret?

Maybe they could check on his welfare and remove any belts; shoe laces or sharp implements from his vicinity.

[ksrclaret]

Did nobody from Burnley ask Maatsen. Do you want to sign for Burnley. Jesus would have saved a lot time … then we could have moved on to a new target.

Quite incredible isn’t it on deadline day.

I had to check earlier that Mike Garlick wasn’t back running the show.

[Spiral]

Haven't written him off but not having expectations he will be the player we turn to keeping us in the PL. I repeat he has development potential for the future but not as a first team choice in the PL this season.

There's not one single player in our squad I can think of where you'd say we 'turn to him' to keep us up. Our most talented player, Benny, had an absolute stinker against Villa, and a player some had written off, Foster, has been easily our best player at these early stages of the season.

[RVclaret]

Said it for me

[CrosspoolClarets]

I don't think there's any way Chelsea would agree to a deal where we are only obliged to pay on the condition of survival, because Maatsen is out of contract next season so they'd only get tribunal compensation (which is miniscule compared to a transfer fee) if we get relegated and he moves away next summer.

Surely this is Maatsen’s concern?

The solution has to be a release clause in the event of relegation that covers our costs but we don’t lose money, or a Weghorst-style loan arrangement. That could be the best compromise for all parties but at present it is all bluff and double bluff.

[Carwin261]

As a PL team we can't even complete a loan deal for players based in our leagues when we need some positions to be strengthened. Pathetic really.

A lot of quotes are pathetic on this board ,how can anyone be disappointed at the quality of players we’ve picked up since VK arrived.

[Gazclaret83]

As a PL team we can't even complete a loan deal for players based in our leagues when we need some positions to be strengthened. Pathetic really.

Do you support Blackburn or Leeds by any chance?

[gawthorpe_view]

Sky reporting Maatsen deal agreed.
Loan with obligation to buy.

[Spiral]

Did nobody from Burnley ask Maatsen. Do you want to sign for Burnley. Jesus would have saved a lot time … then we could have moved on to a new target.

I don't think it's as simple as that. If it's a loan with a buy obligation as reported then this has the potential to really bind Maatsen to Championship football if it all goes wrong. If the deal between the clubs was arranged differently, this might've affected Maatsen's decision. So I highly doubt it's a case of him simply not wanting to come to us. It's more complicated than that.

[123EasyasBFC]

It’s also alright saying fair play to Maatsen got thinking he can break into the Chelsea team and fight for his place but he literally isn’t going to play, soon as window closes he will be lucky to make the match day squads. As much as cucurella hasn’t been good for Chelsea he will be in match day squads over maatsen

[ksrclaret]

Sky reporting Maatsen deal agreed.
Loan with obligation to buy.

That was reported earlier this afternoon

It was then reported Maatsen doesn’t want to join, which is the crucial bit