Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

kenyon6923 · Post by **kenyon6923** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 12:46 pm

What percentage of this thread was spent on Tella, THB and Maateson ?, lol

I go for 65%

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:21 am

Sorry I just miss this thread being near the top!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:58 am

I think the transfer window was the easy bit, blending all these signings into a happy cohesive squad and team will be a lot tougher.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:09 pm

Let's get this thread going again...

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:09 pm

Free agent left backs;

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/souleym ... ler/296356

He came through at PSG

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:10 pm

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yairo-m ... ler/331756

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:11 pm

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yanis-h ... ler/629567

Decent age.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:12 pm

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/reggie- ... ler/478940

This guy definitely seems like a decent signing for us now.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:13 pm

Oh my word, I just can’t stand it…

When Matt Williams said he was glad Tony could close this transfer thread

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:13 pm

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/phil-jo ... ler/117996

Adds a lot of experience, we certainly need it atm

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:14 pm

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/eden-ha ... eler/50202

Imagine...

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:18 pm

We 100% need a left back

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:23 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:18 pm
We 100% need a left back

Maybe you should tell VK that because I can't see anyone else coming in. Charlie might yet get a chance.

Carlos the Great · Post by **Carlos the Great** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:29 pm

Are there any decent wingers available ? ..

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:00 pm

Anwar el-ghazi

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:05 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:00 pm
Anwar el-ghazi

If we’ve spent £120 million, mostly on wingers, and still want that clown I’ll shoot myself…

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:06 pm

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:13 pm
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/phil-jo ... ler/117996

Adds a lot of experience, we certainly need it atm

Experience ?.must be 3 yrs since he had regular first team experience,we’d have been better off with Johnny Evans.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:23 pm

I said in another thread the 25 man squad lists are due for release anytime now and they are final till January unless you sign free agents, so if we have spaces in the squad then we may well be looking at a free agent

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:29 pm

When was the last time we signed a free agent after the transfer window closed out of interest? Doesn’t seem like an option we’ve utilised very often in the past.

matttheclaret · Post by **matttheclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:31 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:29 pm
When was the last time we signed a free agent after the transfer window closed out of interest? Doesn’t seem like an option we’ve utilised very often in the past.

Good question - can't have been many. When did Joey Barton sign? (the first time) He was definitely a free agent but can't remember if it was just before the window closed or just after

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:32 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:29 pm
When was the last time we signed a free agent after the transfer window closed out of interest? Doesn’t seem like an option we’ve utilised very often in the past.

Wasn't Ulvestad signed outside of a window?

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:48 pm

Looking at our 15 new signings, I've come up with the following team which should hold its own in the PL

Trafford
O Shea Beyer Delcroix
Odbert Redmond Berge Ramsey Koleosho
Tresor Amdouni

There can't be many other teams in any division that have signed a complete team !

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:50 pm

Nonayforever wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:48 pm
Looking at our 15 new signings, I've come up with the following team which should hold its own in the PL
Trafford
O Shea Beyer Delcroix
Odbert Redmond Berge Ramsey Koleosho
Tresor Amdouni

There can't be many other teams in any division that have signed a complete team !

Nice. But full backs would mean this team would lose most games.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:52 pm

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:50 pm
Nice. But full backs would mean this team would lose most games.

No full backs, fluid wing backs

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:10 pm

Looking at the above team it is stark and scary that we have signed (excluding Beyer) 1 goalkeeper, 2 defenders, 1 deep midfielder and 6 attack minded players. That is despite losing 2 loan defenders.

Using that logic it seems certain the defence is worse than it was last season, with O’Shea and Delcroix in for Maatsen and THB. The law of sod means injuries were inevitable to compound that problem.

I’ll revise my assessment of the window to being 9/10 in the forward positions and 1/10 in the defending positions.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:37 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:10 pm
Looking at the above team it is stark and scary that we have signed (excluding Beyer) 1 goalkeeper, 2 defenders, 1 deep midfielder and 6 attack minded players. That is despite losing 2 loan defenders.

Using that logic it seems certain the defence is worse than it was last season, with O’Shea and Delcroix in for Maatsen and THB. The law of sod means injuries were inevitable to compound that problem.

I’ll revise my assessment of the window to being 9/10 in the forward positions and 1/10 in the defending positions.

That has been rather the point (although I think O'Shea may be an upgrade on THB, and of course we purchased to centre backs in January as a down payment on our summer's business).

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:54 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:10 pm
Looking at the above team it is stark and scary that we have signed (excluding Beyer) 1 goalkeeper, 2 defenders, 1 deep midfielder and 6 attack minded players. That is despite losing 2 loan defenders.

Using that logic it seems certain the defence is worse than it was last season, with O’Shea and Delcroix in for Maatsen and THB. The law of sod means injuries were inevitable to compound that problem.

I’ll revise my assessment of the window to being 9/10 in the forward positions and 1/10 in the defending positions.

Not a massive shift in quality.
But I'm pretty sure Vinnie would have signed Maatsen if he could. Looks like he waited too long on that one.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:17 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:10 pm
Looking at the above team it is stark and scary that we have signed (excluding Beyer) 1 goalkeeper, 2 defenders, 1 deep midfielder and 6 attack minded players. That is despite losing 2 loan defenders.

Using that logic it seems certain the defence is worse than it was last season, with O’Shea and Delcroix in for Maatsen and THB. The law of sod means injuries were inevitable to compound that problem.

I’ll revise my assessment of the window to being 9/10 in the forward positions and 1/10 in the defending positions.

Very harsh considering we achieved what was arguably the number one defensive objective of getting Beyer signed up permanently - often forgot about, but we got it done quickly and for pretty big money. O’Shea, jury still out, but it’s been a tough baptism of fire and he’s widely considered a solid enough pro. Harwood-Bellis had no PL offers and is back in Championship. Left back is the obvious issue but we obviously had Maatsen assurances which didn’t happen.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:51 pm

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:17 pm
Very harsh considering we achieved what was arguably the number one defensive objective of getting Beyer signed up permanently - often forgot about, but we got it done quickly and for pretty big money. O’Shea, jury still out, but it’s been a tough baptism of fire and he’s widely considered a solid enough pro. Harwood-Bellis had no PL offers and is back in Championship. Left back is the obvious issue but we obviously had Maatsen assurances which didn’t happen.

Agree, a bit harsh, and I note claretspice’s point about the work done in January. I also hope Massengo is the answer who wasn’t in the above “team”, not much money but is 22 and has hopefully matured enough to handle this level.

Left back is obviously the major problem and the real reason for my defensive pessimism. I don’t see any reason why we didn’t sign one before what Matt Williams was alluding to, Chelsea only having rung us up late on.

I sense though our biggest problem is tactical so hopefully this debate over personnel and the need for free agents is moot.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:13 am

claretspice wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:37 pm
That has been rather the point (although I think O'Shea may be an upgrade on THB, and of course we purchased to centre backs in January as a down payment on our summer's business).

O'Shea's positioning has been awful, and his distribution is light years from THB.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:57 am

With all the international call ups doesn't seem we'll have that long to iron out the defensive issues before the next match.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:26 am

I think the Matt Williams reference to looking at players who are unattached is just something to appease the worriers regarding a left back etc can’t see it materialising to much

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:29 am

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:17 pm
Very harsh considering we achieved what was arguably the number one defensive objective of getting Beyer signed up permanently - often forgot about, but we got it done quickly and for pretty big money. O’Shea, jury still out, but it’s been a tough baptism of fire and he’s widely considered a solid enough pro. Harwood-Bellis had no PL offers and is back in Championship. Left back is the obvious issue but we obviously had Maatsen assurances which didn’t happen.

The assurances were allegedly, nothing seems to really add up with that 1.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:38 am

Harwood Bellis definitely had PL interest bit City set a premium price tag.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:44 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:57 am
With all the international call ups doesn't seem we'll have that long to iron out the defensive issues before the next match.

2 weeks of Taylor being at the training ground, surely they can figure out he’s the best option at left back.
Taylor Beyer al-dakhil/O’Shea as a back 3 until Ekdal is fit and then have either roberts or Vitinho as your inverted full back next to Cullen. Brownhill and berge/Ramsey in front then front 3 of tresor foster and Amdouni

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:40 am

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:54 pm
Not a massive shift in quality.
But I'm pretty sure Vinnie would have signed Maatsen if he could. Looks like he waited too long on that one.

According to Matt Williams Chelsea only made him available on the last day of the window. Also mentions we went in for other LBs but couldn’t agree deals on them either.

Tough one to take but just appears to have been a problem position to recruit this window, not for want of trying. Probably not helped by a late change of heart from Vinny’s #1 target.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:15 am

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:09 pm
Free agent left backs;

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/souleym ... ler/296356

He came through at PSG

We were linked with Souleyman Doumbia last summer so you never know.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:18 am

Looks like Maatsen didn’t just crap on us.
From todays Times.

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Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:39 am

Chelsea will be gutted Maatsen didn't come to us as they'd have claimed max profit since he's a Cobham graduate. FFP encourages teams to sell home grown products which doesn't feel right. Chelsea have done it often. Man City with Palmer the other way too.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:47 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:10 pm
I’ll revise my assessment of the window to being 9/10 in the forward positions and 1/10 in the defending positions.

that adds up to 10/10 - so all good

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:11 am

Would of been interesting to see if West Ham came in for Maatsen at the same time as us if he still decided to stay at Chelsea

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:17 pm

I see Matt Lowton is a free agent still. I wonder if he could play at Left Back?

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:38 pm

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:17 pm
I see Matt Lowton is a free agent still. I wonder if he could play at Left Back?

Saw him at King's Cross on Sunday afternoon.

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:01 pm

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:17 pm
I see Matt Lowton is a free agent still. I wonder if he could play at Left Back?

Disappointed he hasn't manage to find a club. He was an amazing signing for us. The Huddersfield loan just didn't work out for him and put him in the shop window as I'm sure was his hope, and it's been downhill from there.

It's crazy how they played a career long RB at LB. Take note Vinny!

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:41 pm

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:01 pm
Disappointed he hasn't manage to find a club. He was an amazing signing for us. The Huddersfield loan just didn't work out for him and put him in the shop window as I'm sure was his hope, and it's been downhill from there.

It's crazy how they played a career long RB at LB. Take note Vinny!

I'm disappointed for him too, but you never know if his legs have "gone" or not. I remember watching Ward play for Stoke after he left us and couldn't quite believe he was the same player. I haven't really seen anything of Lowton since he's left us but seems strange that he hasn't found a club.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:12 pm

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:15 am
We were linked with Souleyman Doumbia last summer so you never know.

Just noticed this myself.

Interesting theory but sounds too easy

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:51 pm

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:15 am
We were linked with Souleyman Doumbia last summer so you never know.

A plane just landed at Barton Aerodrome from Paris

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:10 pm

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:15 am
We were linked with Souleyman Doumbia last summer so you never know.

unless he's asking for big wages, I can't see past this idea.

We NEED a decent left back for the season. It's pretty desperate.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:16 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:51 pm
A plane just landed at Barton Aerodrome from Paris

don’t know if this is a joke or not

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:24 pm

Dalbert looks a decent available freebie signing at left back. Ex Inter who paid big money for him. Had a serious knee injury a year or so ago so could be a risk.