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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Pickles » Tue May 02, 2023 1:11 pm

I'd like to think we've asked Maitland-Niles if he fancies it.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue May 02, 2023 2:00 pm

Onana is doing his best to relegate Everton
He has put in a string of half hearted performances and is a complete waste of space
Contrast with Dwight who has delivered some stellar performances.

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Post by Zom Zom » Tue May 02, 2023 2:03 pm

I read an article linking Eden Hazard too. May just be fantasy, and I can't recall where I found it, but it has indeed been suggested.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue May 02, 2023 2:04 pm

Hazard is a crock.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue May 02, 2023 2:22 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 12:58 pm
Vitinho has played both full back roles, both wings and even as part of a midfield 3 this season
To a very average performance level at a lower ability level than the PL.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue May 02, 2023 2:52 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 1:02 pm
(I just don't see the hype around Maatsen personally).
Add me to that thought.I’m still not a Muric fan also.

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Post by Walkerpool » Tue May 02, 2023 2:59 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:52 pm
Add me to that thought.I’m still not a Muric fan also.
I'm surprised we didn't get relegated with them 2 in the team.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 02, 2023 3:07 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:22 pm
To a very average performance level at a lower ability level than the PL.
Right and what’s your point, I was just stating how regardless of what league you are in, it’s always good have players capable of playing multiple positions, John O’Shea made a pretty good career at united being a utility player

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue May 02, 2023 3:20 pm

Walkerpool wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:59 pm
I'm surprised we didn't get relegated with them 2 in the team.
Maatsen has had some tremendous games but far too many poor games for me to think he can cut it in the PL.
Muric has made very few WOW saves and has been beaten too often without making an attempt. Either his positioning is poor or his reflexes.
Only opinions.

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Post by Pickles » Tue May 02, 2023 3:24 pm

Off on a tangent but it's mind boggling to me how anyone can have watched this season and not rated Muric. There's a strong argument to say no-one has been more pivotal in terms of the core principal of the way we play than he has - possibly Cullen too. But hey, it's a transfer and rumours thread.
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue May 02, 2023 3:32 pm

Pickles wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 3:24 pm
Off on a tangent but it's mind boggling to me how anyone can have watched this season and not rated Muric. There's a strong argument to say no-one has been more pivotal in terms of the core principal of the way we play than he has - possibly Cullen too. But hey, it's a transfer and rumours thread.
His ball playing has never been in doubt. Some of his "traditional" goalkeeping was questionable early in the season but I think there's been a very big improvement there.
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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue May 02, 2023 3:53 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 3:07 pm
Right and what’s your point, I was just stating how regardless of what league you are in, it’s always good have players capable of playing multiple positions, John O’Shea made a pretty good career at united being a utility player
I thought you were suggesting that there would be no need for likes of Milner because we already have someone (Vitinho) to fulfil the utility role. My mistake.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue May 02, 2023 4:01 pm

Think you're talking a different level of player comparing Vitinho with John O'Shea.

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Post by Pickles » Tue May 02, 2023 4:03 pm

Mentioned already Maitland-Niles would be a superb signing for that utility role. Deep midfield, a tad further forward, right midfield, right back. Strong lad, twenty-five, with Premier League experience. I'd love to think we've made some sort of approach.

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Post by Petersa » Tue May 02, 2023 4:21 pm

Pickles wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 4:03 pm
Mentioned already Maitland-Niles would be a superb signing for that utility role. Deep midfield, a tad further forward, right midfield, right back
If we did sign him I would prefer him left back in the dressing room on matchdays!

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 02, 2023 4:40 pm

Maitland-Niles makes a ton of sense but I’m gonna guess that his wages will be a big issue.

Plenty of good young European talent out there -trick is finding them.

Look at how many players come through Benfica/Red Bull system/Genk that are playing their trade at the top level now - them teams (excluding English clubs) literally supply half of Europe with players- especially Benfica & the RB system.

For an example:

We have more resource than Genk when in the PL, shows how imperative having a thorough scouting network & in-depth analytics department is and I’m very happy that the club is prioritising these avenues rather than signing obvious names
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue May 02, 2023 4:57 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 4:40 pm
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We have more resource than Genk when in the PL, shows how imperative having a thorough scouting network & in-depth analytics department is and I’m very happy that the club is prioritising these avenues rather than signing obvious names
I saw Genk at Cork City in the EL, 2016. Leon Bailey played and so did Leandro Trossard, Wilfred Ndidi and Neeskens Kebano. Fabulous side.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 02, 2023 5:01 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 4:01 pm
Think you're talking a different level of player comparing Vitinho with John O'Shea.
At no point was I comparing the 2 was just an example of a player making a very good career out of being a utility player

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Post by Intoclaret » Tue May 02, 2023 5:29 pm

Ryan Kent mentioned earlier, according to the word on the street in Glasgow is a done deal. Free transfer, OOC and will be on 40k a week.
Not sure how I feel about this, can be good on his day but is also inconsistent. Also feel that we are generally well stocked for wide positions but could be a good signing.

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Post by Shaggy » Tue May 02, 2023 5:31 pm

Ryan Kent is pap.we have better already in the squad. He’s one of these players who tries to look all fancy then fluffs his lines at the last minute. There’s little end product with him.

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Post by Intoclaret » Tue May 02, 2023 5:37 pm

Don't disagree Shaggy but pretty sure that it's happening.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 02, 2023 5:38 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 9:38 pm
The Athletic has suggested we have approached Milner but Brighton are leading the chase.

It’s very wise in the PL to have some experience. Ashley Young has played quite a big role at Villa over the past 2 seasons despite being 37.
We’d just about completed the Young deal two years ago but then Villa came in. Some negativity on here towards it but I think he’d have been an excellent signing for us.

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Post by Intoclaret » Tue May 02, 2023 5:42 pm

Do you not think that Milner would have been a good Dyche signing as Young would have been?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 02, 2023 5:43 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 5:31 pm
Ryan Kent is pap.we have better already in the squad. He’s one of these players who tries to look all fancy then fluffs his lines at the last minute. There’s little end product with him.
English, 26 year old, European experience, big game experience, played well for rangers until recently and if a player isn’t signing a new deal fans usually turn on players. To me on a free transfer he’s a no brainer

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Post by Intoclaret » Tue May 02, 2023 5:52 pm

Dyche was also interviewed at Rangers but they could not afford the Burnley package that he was still being paid. Kent wanted £40k a week but Rangers couldn't afford it.
Who would have thought in the 80's this would have been the case?
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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue May 02, 2023 5:54 pm

Some of the press coverage up there of Kent isn't the most complimentary at the moment...😎

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 02, 2023 6:16 pm

Intoclaret wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 5:42 pm
Do you not think that Milner would have been a good Dyche signing as Young would have been?
Absolutely but wasn’t available when Dyche was here. I think he could be a good Kompany signing too.

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.We already have Obafemi that downed tools,and personally I don’t think he’s Premier League standard ,do we need another one whose done the same ,even though he may be a free transfer?
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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 02, 2023 6:21 pm

Intoclaret wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 5:29 pm
Ryan Kent mentioned earlier, according to the word on the street in Glasgow is a done deal. Free transfer, OOC and will be on 40k a week.
Not sure how I feel about this, can be good on his day but is also inconsistent. Also feel that we are generally well stocked for wide positions but could be a good signing.
you only have to look at how much Kompany has improved Ashley Barnes to know he will improve Kent

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Post by Carwin261 » Tue May 02, 2023 6:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:21 pm
you only have to look at how much Kompany has improved Ashley Barnes to know he will improve Kent
Yes ,but there’s never been any doubt about Ashes attitude.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 02, 2023 6:27 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:23 pm
Yes ,but there’s never been any doubt about Ashes attitude.
Joey Barton

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Post by Shaggy » Tue May 02, 2023 6:34 pm

The thing is with Kent we already have Zaroury, Benson, JBG, And Vitinho who are all better players than him.

Let’s be honest here Rangers in the modern football world are pretty small fry. If Kent was any good he’d have been picked up by now and playing in the EPL already.

Iv watched him play a lot and I’ll nail it down here right now he isn’t up to the championship level never mind premier league level. Just think Steve Jones and your close to what Kent is.

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Post by jedi_master » Tue May 02, 2023 6:41 pm

Ryan Kent tore Dortmund to bits last year. To compare him to Steve Jones is not fair to the lad at all. Intermittent end product perhaps, but we have a lack of wide options after Benny and Zaroury, as has been evidenced recently. We probably need two wingers with Churlinov leaving.

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Post by RVclaret » Tue May 02, 2023 6:48 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:34 pm
The thing is with Kent we already have Zaroury, Benson, JBG, And Vitinho who are all better players than him.

Let’s be honest here Rangers in the modern football world are pretty small fry. If Kent was any good he’d have been picked up by now and playing in the EPL already.

Iv watched him play a lot and I’ll nail it down here right now he isn’t up to the championship level never mind premier league level. Just think Steve Jones and your close to what Kent is.
Vitinho on the left wing isn’t even Championship standard let alone Prem. The others you mentioned don’t play left wing except Zaroury, it’s a position we’ve lacked back up with Churlinov not fancied.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue May 02, 2023 6:56 pm

If Kent signs, he'll be on a Free transfer and on reasonable wages ( by Premier League standards ). Given what VK has done so far, I'm happy to trust him on this one

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Post by Carwin261 » Tue May 02, 2023 7:12 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:27 pm
Joey Barton
Might have been a nutter ,but he’s never been accused of not trying unlike the comments about the players mention above.

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Post by Carwin261 » Tue May 02, 2023 7:15 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:41 pm
Ryan Kent tore Dortmund to bits last year. To compare him to Steve Jones is not fair to the lad at all. Intermittent end product perhaps, but we have a lack of wide options after Benny and Zaroury, as has been evidenced recently. We probably need two wingers with Churlinov leaving.
We’ve always got Johann as a good back up,can’t remember the match,but quite early on in the season,and we weren’t winning,and VK took Benny off ,and brought him on ,and his crosses won us the match .

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 02, 2023 7:42 pm

L Equipe saying we are interested in Diallo at Strasbourg

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Post by mkmel » Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 am

Wasn't he at Fulham about 3 years ago?

Or am I getting him mixed up with somebody else?

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed May 03, 2023 2:54 am

He's two footed.......it's a start.

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Post by Shaggy » Wed May 03, 2023 6:06 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:48 pm
Vitinho on the left wing isn’t even Championship standard let alone Prem. The others you mentioned don’t play left wing except Zaroury, it’s a position we’ve lacked back up with Churlinov not fancied.
You think Kent is just a left winger? He’s been played across the 3 advanced midfielder positions, Left, Right and Centre.

Vitinho is better than Kent no question about it, as are our other players. He has very little end product and that’s playing in a poor league where the majority of the sides have League 1 standard players.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed May 03, 2023 6:43 am

Shaggy wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 6:06 am
You think Kent is just a left winger? He’s been played across the 3 advanced midfielder positions, Left, Right and Centre.

Vitinho is better than Kent no question about it, as are our other players. He has very little end product and that’s playing in a poor league where the majority of the sides have League 1 standard players.
Out of 88 appearances in all comps in the past two seasons he’s played on the left wing in 83 of them. I think it’s safe to call him a left winger.

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Post by Quicknick » Wed May 03, 2023 6:47 am

Shaggy: ''Vitinho is better than Kent''.
How do you know?

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed May 03, 2023 7:29 am

DM, for what it’s worth, saying we will be in for James McAtee.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed May 03, 2023 7:30 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 7:29 am
DM, for what it’s worth, saying we will be in for James McAtee.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... uture.html

Had a good season at Sheff Utd.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed May 03, 2023 7:35 am

It appears that despite all the evidence that the manager and his wider recruitment team have a real eye for a player, we are questioning their first target of the summer.

It’s going to be a long few months.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed May 03, 2023 7:46 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 7:30 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... uture.html

Had a good season at Sheff Utd.
You have got to imagine that means Twine is going out on loan.

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Post by Spike » Wed May 03, 2023 8:01 am

Carwin261 wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 10:40 pm
If we’re going to get giddy over bringing in an old get from Merseyside ,watching McNeil play tonight ,let’s get him back in if Everton go down,I remember us having Tommy Cassidy in the 70’s ,and he was great ,but we also had a certain Trevor Stephen in midfield as well who could run all day,Who would we play in midfield with Milner,Cullens very fit,but not fast ,neither is Brownhill,also it doesn’t fit the new BFC brand in developing young talent,Hazard would be an even better choice.
Cassidy played for us in the 80s .
His legs had completely gone but Wharton ,Young etc did all the running

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed May 03, 2023 9:02 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:48 pm
Vitinho on the left wing isn’t even Championship standard let alone Prem. The others you mentioned don’t play left wing except Zaroury, it’s a position we’ve lacked back up with Churlinov not fancied.
Agree with all these points.

When Zaroury has been going through a poor run of form he has had to play through it instead of having the luxury of being rested like other players. Hopefully we are looking to bring in at least two new wingers this summer.

Vitinho on either side of midfield/attack isn'd Champ standard. He's cover full back at best and that's it.

Of course some players have come down from the SPL and ben excellent in the EPL. Who knows if Kent can make the grade or not? However, after watching the usual YouTube clips of Kent, what struck me the most was how two-footed he was - he could strike the ball comfortably with either foot. He made it look natural and easy for him to do so which a lot of professional footballers struggle with. As others have said, if he's good enough for the manager then that's good enough for me. A no brainer at 26 years old and on a free.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed May 03, 2023 9:04 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 7:29 am
DM, for what it’s worth, saying we will be in for James McAtee.
I like this lad a lot. Looks a really good player to me and a type that we currently don't have in our squad. I mentioned him last summer and hoped we could bring him in on loan - I remember being disappointed when he joined Sheff Utd.

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