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Supporter experience
Are there any other clubs where, as a supporter, you could have experienced the highs and lows that we have?
This is in your lifetime, whatever that may be.
This is in your lifetime, whatever that may be.
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Ive only ever supported burnley so not sure
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Wolves seem to have followed us through the divisions in a similar time frame.No Ney Never wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:14 pmAh yes.
Maybe a re-wording of the question.
What other clubs have experienced the Highs and lows that Burnley have in your lifetime?
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Havent Bournemouth and Brighton been pretty darned close to itClaret Till I Die wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:21 pmFrom memory Wolves have never been one loss away from going out of the league though
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Wolves, Sheffield Utd, Bolton all took the journey to division 4 and back.
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There is some merit in the view that you have to experience the lows to really appreciate the highs.
I wince with disapproval when I hear my rarely attending, Manchester United supporting friend bang on about how hard they’re having it.
We may never again achieve the highs of yesteryear, but we should be proud that we did (we all are, I’m sure) and absolutely ecstatic about what our ‘small club’ achieves against the odds. We don’t do it occasionally, we do it year on year whilst many bigger clubs look on enviously.
I love being ‘little Burnley’ and doing as well as we do. That sure as hell doesn’t mean that I’m not ambitious and want us to aim for the stars.
I wince with disapproval when I hear my rarely attending, Manchester United supporting friend bang on about how hard they’re having it.
We may never again achieve the highs of yesteryear, but we should be proud that we did (we all are, I’m sure) and absolutely ecstatic about what our ‘small club’ achieves against the odds. We don’t do it occasionally, we do it year on year whilst many bigger clubs look on enviously.
I love being ‘little Burnley’ and doing as well as we do. That sure as hell doesn’t mean that I’m not ambitious and want us to aim for the stars.
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Have followed Galway United for 26 years and in that time we have won the League Cup and that's about it really , ohh we lost our licence for 3 years and had nothing .
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If Luton get back in the PL they have gone from top division to non-league and back again in under 40 years and won the League Cup in the ‘80s.
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That’s a really good shout. Trumps us although they survived non league, would we have done had we gone down?Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 8:12 pmIf Luton get back in the PL they have gone from top division to non-league and back again in under 40 years and won the League Cup in the ‘80s.
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Leicester
Win the league. Does it get higher than that?
Portential relegation this year?
Quite a few years in the lower leagues
Win the league. Does it get higher than that?
Portential relegation this year?
Quite a few years in the lower leagues
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Blackpool have done all four divisions in recent times.
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Bradford have been up the divisions and back down again. Coventry have had a bumpy old ride since winning the FA cup and being top flight stalwarts.
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Oldham were in the PL when it first formed.
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Wolves' last few decades have been very similar to ours, although they bounced up more rapidly from the bottom tier.
These images from Richard Rundle are fascinating - and you can really plot somebody's experience of the Clarets based on the point at which they started watching us.
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These images from Richard Rundle are fascinating - and you can really plot somebody's experience of the Clarets based on the point at which they started watching us.
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Wow Leon C, that's some correlation!
As they say, a picture speaks a thousand words.
As they say, a picture speaks a thousand words.
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I’d say Brighton but you’d needed to have followed them through the bad times and the majority are plastics
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Another thread to that is, should Luton get promoted then Mpanzu will have played for them in all the divisions from Conference to Premier for the same teamTricky Trevor wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 8:12 pmIf Luton get back in the PL they have gone from top division to non-league and back again in under 40 years and won the League Cup in the ‘80s.
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Every club has pretty much the same experience.
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You'd have to be a very old Everton fan.
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I think both Northampton Town ( 1960's ) and Swansea ( late 1970's/80's ) both went from the 4th Tier to the top flight and back again within a decade ..
I think most people know that Burnley, Wolves, Portsmouth, Preston and Sheffield Utd are the 5 Clubs who have been Champions of all 4 Divisions ...
I think most people know that Burnley, Wolves, Portsmouth, Preston and Sheffield Utd are the 5 Clubs who have been Champions of all 4 Divisions ...
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The 2 that came to mind have been mentioned, in Luton and Oldham. Luton could well complete a remarkable circle from top flight to non league and back to the top flight if they prevail in the play offs.
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What about Northampton?No Ney Never wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:10 pmAre there any other clubs where, as a supporter, you could have experienced the highs and lows that we have?
This is in your lifetime, whatever that may be.
1960/61 - promoted from fourth division
1962/63 - won third division
1964/65 - promoted from second division
1965/66 - relegated from first division
1966/67 - relegated from second division
1968/69 - relegated from third division
A few more - Luton from the Championship in 2006/07, all way down the National League and back up again.
Yeovil, up from National League to the Championship in 2013/14 and now heading to National League North.
EDIT: I should have read the entire thread before posting, seen that these have been mentioned.
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You can probably add Carlisle United to this list.Clarets4me wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:48 amI think both Northampton Town ( 1960's ) and Swansea ( late 1970's/80's ) both went from the 4th Tier to the top flight and back again within a decade ..
I think most people know that Burnley, Wolves, Portsmouth, Preston and Sheffield Utd are the 5 Clubs who have been Champions of all 4 Divisions ...
1st Division in 74/75 one Jimmy Glass goal from the Conference in '99.
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Wolves had a slide too
1982/83 - up from second division to first division
1983/84 - down from first to second
1984/85 - down from second to third
1985/86 - down from third to fourth
then
1987/88 - up from fourth to third
1988/89 - up from third to second
1982/83 - up from second division to first division
1983/84 - down from first to second
1984/85 - down from second to third
1985/86 - down from third to fourth
then
1987/88 - up from fourth to third
1988/89 - up from third to second
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Have Ipswich been in the Premier League since they were last relegated from it? They finished 5th under George Burley the season before, I think.
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My earliest memories of Burnley are of them being one of the greatest teams in the country whose only serious rivals were Spurs and Wolves. So I would say the only comparison to our roller coaster journey since the mid 1960s is that of Wolves, and maybe Portsmouth who were very successful in the 1950s. Although as Claret Till I Die pointed out Wolves were never close to relegation from the league. So I think we have plumbed more depths from the loftiest heights than anybody else.
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I don't recall a team who had won the first division title plus FA Cup etc being 90 minutes away from oblivion, that's what makes our experience unique IMHO.
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The club that I played rugby for as a youngster reached a point around 2008-2010 where they'd dropped out of the competitive league completely and were playing occasional matches in a 'social league', often managing to turn out no more than 12 or 13 kids, cripples and has-beens. Ten years on and they're divisional champions and playing in a cup final at Twickenham this coming Sunday; I think that counts as being on the upswing
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“On 28 August 1973, Leighton James strode off the pitch after Burnley had beaten Chelsea to find the Clarets joint-top of the First Division, with two wins out of two. On 9 May 1987, he jogged on to Turf Moor in the same colours, with Burnley 92nd in the Football League and about to face Orient in the last game of the season. Burnley won 2-1 and avoided the ignominy of being the first club to be automatically relegated from the Football League.”
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I doubt anybody else will go from top to bottom of the league in such a short space of time without receiving some kind of penalty.Clarets4me wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:53 pm“On 28 August 1973, Leighton James strode off the pitch after Burnley had beaten Chelsea to find the Clarets joint-top of the First Division, with two wins out of two. On 9 May 1987, he jogged on to Turf Moor in the same colours, with Burnley 92nd in the Football League and about to face Orient in the last game of the season. Burnley won 2-1 and avoided the ignominy of being the first club to be automatically relegated from the Football League.”
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Bolton of course did it ten years ahead of us
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Can I ask which Club ?AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:30 amThe club that I played rugby for as a youngster reached a point around 2008-2010 where they'd dropped out of the competitive league completely and were playing occasional matches in a 'social league', often managing to turn out no more than 12 or 13 kids, cripples and has-beens. Ten years on and they're divisional champions and playing in a cup final at Twickenham this coming Sunday; I think that counts as being on the upswing
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Both been mentioned but Id say the two clubs that rivalled us for the good times we had under Dyche were Bradford and Bournemouth. Bradford had the FA Cup run as well as a major final plus a promotion and a play off final loss to go up two divisions and under Howe over two periods Bournemouth went from 92nd to the Premier League and hung around there for a good few years.
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