Sheffield Wednesday

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri May 12, 2023 9:59 pm

4-0 down after the first leg.. has a bigger club been this awful for this long?

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Fri May 12, 2023 10:17 pm

Not getting promoted

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri May 12, 2023 10:18 pm

Good question, with the fan base and stadium size, although somewhat dilapidated now they should be a lot higher, I cannot think of one in the lower reaches for as long, possibly Forest, maybe Derby now .

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri May 12, 2023 10:21 pm

NottsClaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 12, 2023 9:59 pm
4-0 down after the first leg.. has a bigger club been this awful for this long?

Are we a bigger club?
If so, then we must be a good shout between late 70s and mid 90s.

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri May 12, 2023 10:22 pm

NottsClaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 12, 2023 9:59 pm
4-0 down after the first leg.. has a bigger club been this awful for this long?

Burnley were in the lower leagues for quite a while

Edit: beat me to it, Nil.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Fri May 12, 2023 11:22 pm

Another vote for ourselves here.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri May 12, 2023 11:32 pm

We were down there for quite a while folks

Are you sure you were there when we were shite?

Its not the sort of thing you forget

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri May 12, 2023 11:41 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 12, 2023 11:32 pm
We were down there for quite a while folks

Are you sure you were there when we were shite?

Its not the sort of thing you forget

And we weren’t the ‘96 points in the third tier’ type of shite they seem to be being accused of this season.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri May 12, 2023 11:47 pm

The potential of SWFC is possibly greater than ours so that has to come into the equation, that said I actually didn't think about us.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri May 12, 2023 11:48 pm

To be fair, the only luck they had tonight was bad. It was almost written in the stars. It's hard to beat fate.

pompeyclaret · Post by **pompeyclaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 12:21 am

Didn't realise they had Norris in goal, another loan player doing well, even if no clarets future

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat May 13, 2023 12:42 am

Sheff Wed really should have got automatic promotion and not only were they odds on just 4 or 5 games away from the end of the season, but they looked likely to be champions. They ultimately blew it and ended up being miles the best team in the play offs judging by points gained, league position and form over the whole season and we all know how that usually works..... absolute kiss of death!!

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat May 13, 2023 1:07 am

Really amusing result.

Here's-Johnny · Post by **Here's-Johnny** » Sat May 13, 2023 1:21 am

Dark Days for Wednesday !! We've been there.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Sat May 13, 2023 1:29 am

We certainly have been there, worse as we all know.

No denying Wednesday are a club with massive potential. As always it’s the fans to feel sorry for.

Whether I would laugh at their plight, certainly not, it could be us and still could be of our stars don’t align.
As always with football we enjoy the highs and hope the lows aren’t too low.

UTC

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 6:16 am

Sheffield Wednesday went into the game having won 5 out of 6 matches recently. Hardly on a bad run of form.
They had a dip in form 2/3rds of the way through the season that cost them automatic promotion. Mind you Ipswich and Plymouth were exceptional.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sat May 13, 2023 6:25 am

The fact that people are doubting whether Wednesday is a bigger club shows their demise. A true city club, huge (now dilapidated) ground, huge following proud history. But the Premier League is redefining “big”. Are Brentford now a bigger club than Portsmouth? Historically not even close but One is growing rapidly and the other is shrinking. Closer to home we are slowly eclipsing the other Lancashire teams. And long may that continue.

IPAclaret · Post by **IPAclaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 6:33 am

A few seasons ago a large group of their 'fans' (knuckle dragging types) abused just about everyone in the Swan in Burnley town centre including an elderly chap who was having a quiet pint.

Now, I know you shouldn't generalise and all clubs have their fair share of whoppers but that incident sticks in my mind.

So on that basis, they can suffer for a few more years yet as far as I'm concerned. All the more painful for them what with United getting promoted.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sat May 13, 2023 8:12 am

NottsClaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 12, 2023 9:59 pm
4-0 down after the first leg.. has a bigger club been this awful for this long?

Wolves were rubbish and in div 4 for a bit until bull and mutch got them out of it.

I might be recollecting this wrong, but is this their second long period of rubbishness? They were in the bottom tier with Sheffield United in the late 1980's, but think they've resurfaced in the Premier league for a bit before sinking again. The first slump must have been worse than this one, but it now seems to merge into one.

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 8:15 am

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Fri May 12, 2023 11:47 pm
...that said I actually didn't think about us.

A wise decision, that's not a period in our history that anyone would want to dwell upon

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat May 13, 2023 8:16 am

I think Norris will have a lot more to do in the replay. Wednesday at home will be an interesting game. What’s the odds of them overturning the first leg result?

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 8:22 am

timshorts wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 8:12 am
Wolves were rubbish and in div 4 for a bit until bull and mutch got them out of it.

Wolves are a good call, yeah they went even further down although they did have a fantastic time bouncing back again with Bull.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat May 13, 2023 8:22 am

Anyone remember the numpty running on the pitch at Wednesday after we scored a penalty and Stan ran on to deal with him? When was that 2000? Was it Cook with the pen?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 8:37 am

martin_p wrote: ↑
Fri May 12, 2023 11:41 pm
And we weren’t the ‘96 points in the third tier’ type of shite they seem to be being accused of this season.

Nor the 25,000 plus crowds

About 4,500 on the first attendance I can remember

Certainly a much bigger club than us back in the day, and almost certainly are now

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Sat May 13, 2023 8:48 am

19 points ahead of Peterborough, all thrown away in 90+ minutes. So glad it's not us. UTC!

thehistorylecturer60 · Post by **thehistorylecturer60** » Sat May 13, 2023 9:04 am

9 seasons in the Third Tier .. none in the Fourth

thehistorylecturer60 · Post by **thehistorylecturer60** » Sat May 13, 2023 9:09 am

Make that 10 on a recount going on 11 after last night ..

AmbleClaret · Post by **AmbleClaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 9:20 am

Beat us 7-2 at home on last day of season, 2003. They were already relegated. I'm sure Nik the Greek feigned injury to be subbed by Beresford to avoid further humiliation. Those were the days.

lakedistrictclaret · Post by **lakedistrictclaret** » Sat May 13, 2023 9:25 am

IPAclaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 6:33 am
A few seasons ago a large group of their 'fans' (knuckle dragging types) abused just about everyone in the Swan in Burnley town centre including an elderly chap who was having a quiet pint.

Now, I know you shouldn't generalise and all clubs have their fair share of whoppers but that incident sticks in my mind.

So on that basis, they can suffer for a few more years yet as far as I'm concerned. All the more painful for them what with United getting promoted.

I agree, IPA.

The only time I have ever had my scarf pinched was at Nottingham Forest, in November 1969, and I've never liked Forest, or their fans, since.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sat May 13, 2023 9:45 am

Fergie Jnr has done a cracking job since he went back in at Posh.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat May 13, 2023 9:53 am

Foulthrow wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 8:22 am
Anyone remember the numpty running on the pitch at Wednesday after we scored a penalty and Stan ran on to deal with him? When was that 2000? Was it Cook with the pen?

Got a feeling it was 2001. Think it was the ITV digital era so was a stupid Sunday evening kickoff time. Or maybe 2002.

Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Sat May 13, 2023 9:53 am

Fretters wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 9:45 am
Fergie Jnr has done a cracking job since he went back in at Posh.

Back, back back in at posh

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sat May 13, 2023 10:08 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 9:53 am
Got a feeling it was 2001. Think it was the ITV digital era so was a stupid Sunday evening kickoff time. Or maybe 2002.

Opening day of 2001/02 when we ended up top for a while. Think Cook missed the pen, but it was re-taken and he scored.

Coeus · Post by **Coeus** » Sat May 13, 2023 11:43 am

Watched it leat night and felt at halftime Peterborough would have more . Sheff Wed had to attack and if they didn’t get the next goal it was game over. However I don’t think the tie is over. Sheff Wed more than capable of winning each half 2 nil also. Will be a good game I think.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sun May 14, 2023 9:29 am

Sheff Wed early season ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/swfcsc/status/1657433213491347457

Dread to think how much they will go up to if you don't get one now.

Coeus · Post by **Coeus** » Thu May 18, 2023 10:05 pm

Who would have thought!

JellyBaby · Post by **JellyBaby** » Thu May 18, 2023 10:21 pm

AmbleClaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 9:20 am
Beat us 7-2 at home on last day of season, 2003. They were already relegated. I'm sure Nik the Greek feigned injury to be subbed by Beresford to avoid further humiliation. Those were the days.

I was there on that day, think they hit the post a few times too. Should have genuinely been about 12 for them from memory. Was that the 6-5 , 7-4 etc season? It was unbelievable!

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:04 am

Well. Well , who’d have thought, not many on this thread…

Funny old game football….

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:08 am

Don't you just love the EFL and play-offs...

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:13 am

CnBtruntru wrote: ↑
Fri May 12, 2023 10:17 pm
Not getting promoted

Might even be true

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:22 am

Bloody hell lads, how long have some of you been watching football - always wait until the tie is finished.

Incredible effort by Wednesday.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:29 am

Fantastic effort that, really pleased for them. Hillsborough was back to its old self last night.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:34 am

Commy wrote: ↑
Sun May 14, 2023 9:29 am
Sheff Wed early season ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/swfcsc/status/1657433213491347457

Dread to think how much they will go up to if you don't get one now.

Some of the comments from right after the 4-0 loss to P'Boro are amusing

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:37 am

I hope they lose the final.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri May 19, 2023 9:02 am

Well played Wednesday and their fans

Tremendous bottle job by Peterborough though

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Fri May 19, 2023 9:05 am

I do hope that Peterboro prick Adrian Durham was working at Sheff Weds last night and had to witness his team be about as brave as him

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri May 19, 2023 10:01 am

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Fri May 19, 2023 8:37 am
I hope they lose the final.

Of the 3 teams left I think they are the most likely to finish above Rovers next season so I hope not.
I would have seen Peterborough as relegation fodder, and Bolton and Barnsley little better.
Hopefully an Owls promotion frees up one more relegation spot.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri May 19, 2023 10:23 am

AmbleClaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 13, 2023 9:20 am
Beat us 7-2 at home on last day of season, 2003. They were already relegated. I'm sure Nik the Greek feigned injury to be subbed by Beresford to avoid further humiliation. Those were the days.

Your memory is v good.
Just checked it to confirm.
Our cause wasn't helped by a stupid red card for Ian Moore early on and an own goal by Gnohere.
It's not mentioned in the report but i seem to recall that Beresford was as hapless as Michopoulos that day.
I also note that an Ashley Westwood scored for the Owls that day, but it couldn't have been "ours" as he would have only been 13.

AmbleClaret · Post by **AmbleClaret** » Fri May 19, 2023 10:41 am

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Fri May 19, 2023 10:23 am
Your memory is v good.
Just checked it to confirm.
Our cause wasn't helped by a stupid red card for Ian Moore early on and an own goal by Gnohere.
It's not mentioned in the report but i seem to recall that Beresford was as hapless as Michopoulos that day.
I also note that an Ashley Westwood scored for the Owls that day, but it couldn't have been "ours" as he would have only been 13.

I remember it particularly well as an elderly lady sat next to us was apoplectic with rage after the final whistle as some fans ran onto the pitch.
"You're ruining it for us" she was shouting. I'm still struggling to understand what exactly was being ruined after that ending to a rather turbulent season.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri May 19, 2023 10:47 am

AmbleClaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 19, 2023 10:41 am
I remember it particularly well as an elderly lady sat next to us was apoplectic with rage after the final whistle as some fans ran onto the pitch.
"You're ruining it for us" she was shouting. I'm still struggling to understand what exactly was being ruined after that ending to a rather turbulent season.

She wanted to pelt Nik The Greek with half-eaten Werther's Originals.