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Classic Football Shirts

Post by Fretters » Tue May 16, 2023 8:40 pm

They've confirmed on social media that they won't be next season's shirt sponsor. Really hope we don't go down the usual bookies route, but needs must I suppose. Although, I wouldn't be surprised to see TikTok or someone like that (genuinely have no idea if they could compete with the bookies, but you'd imagine so).

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Aclaret » Tue May 16, 2023 8:50 pm

Shame....we were a winning Combination.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 16, 2023 8:51 pm

Get Endsleigh on the shirts

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 16, 2023 9:08 pm

Trouble is, until gambling firms are gone altogether they will always be the best payers.

Think we had the lowest revenue in the Prem
In our final season by some distance. If we want to compete we have to take the best deals available.

BK8 would t shock me.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by bobinho » Tue May 16, 2023 9:12 pm

Poco?
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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 16, 2023 9:18 pm

They were never going to be shirt sponsors next season

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Tue May 16, 2023 9:31 pm

Surprised they can't afford it considering how much they charge for some shirts.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue May 16, 2023 9:35 pm

That's a shame.
Best shirt, best sponsors ever..... well, apart from the seventies shirt with the BFC script and no sponsor.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by welsbyswife » Tue May 16, 2023 9:36 pm

Best shirt sponsor ever must have been Rochdale. All in One Garden Centre with a watering can on the front of the shirt. Brilliant :D

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by dandeclaret » Tue May 16, 2023 9:40 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:08 pm
Trouble is, until gambling firms are gone altogether they will always be the best payers.

Think we had the lowest revenue in the Prem
In our final season by some distance. If we want to compete we have to take the best deals available.

BK8 would t shock me.
Why would they be gone altogether? 33 million people enjoy having a bet every week in the UK…. It’s a legitimate, and legal, leisure activity.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Culmclaret » Tue May 16, 2023 9:42 pm

Initials for Potteries Motor Traction on Port Vale’s shirts in 83/84 were a tad unfortunate…..

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Post by DCWat » Tue May 16, 2023 9:43 pm

I’d have B&H on the front, Porn Hub on a sleeve and Ladbrokes on the back if it meant that we could help to fund the transfers that Kompany wants.

It’s a sorry state of affairs but until the blanket ban on bookies advertising on shirts comes in, it’s a bed that we have to lay in unless by some miracle Pace can find a better option.

Personally, I’d sooner see a ban on the TV, Radio and LED hoarding adverts for gambling companies, than I would on shirts.

Whoever we get, I just hope it’s not some sprawling, ugly logo that stands out like a sore thumb.
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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue May 16, 2023 9:48 pm

Classic Football Shirts have definitely had excellent value for money this season and must be extremely happy with the unbelievable exposure and the way the season went. It's a shame it's not continuing because it was brilliant to buck the gambling trend.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 16, 2023 9:58 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:40 pm
Why would they be gone altogether? 33 million people enjoy having a bet every week in the UK…. It’s a legitimate, and legal, leisure activity.
I meant gone from the Premier League, when they won’t be able to sponsor teams in 3 seasons time.

When that happens, all clubs will have to take lower sponsorship so relatively we wouldn’t be disadvantaged.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm

Maybe JJ Watt will be using his contacts/influence in the States to help bring in sponsors?
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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue May 16, 2023 10:55 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm
Maybe JJ Watt will be using his contacts/influence in the States to help bring in sponsors?
I suggested social media helping to improve the teams image would help to bring in different/international sponsors and that got mocked by some on here, they couldn't grasp the importance of social media and potential sponsors noticing what's going on.

JJ Watts' presence will also help in this aspect.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Cooclaret » Tue May 16, 2023 11:02 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:55 pm
I suggested social media helping to improve the teams image would help to bring in different/international sponsors and that got mocked by some on here, they couldn't grasp the importance of social media and potential sponsors noticing what's going on.

JJ Watts' presence will also help in this aspect.
Most of the old boys on here (majority of the board) would have a meltdown trying to understand social media like Tik Tok. They have a hard enough time getting to grips that Burnley had a successful ladies team.

Getting them to buy into the global BFC brand is a waste of time. It’s a local club for local people!

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by martin_p » Tue May 16, 2023 11:34 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:02 pm
Most of the old boys on here (majority of the board) would have a meltdown trying to understand social media like Tik Tok. They have a hard enough time getting to grips that Burnley had a successful ladies team.

Getting them to buy into the global BFC brand is a waste of time. It’s a local club for local people!
I’m not quite an old boy yet but getting there, however it’s a little patronising to say old boys don’t understand tik tok. We had clocks when I was a kid too!
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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by forzagranata » Tue May 16, 2023 11:38 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:55 pm
I suggested social media helping to improve the teams image would help to bring in different/international sponsors and that got mocked by some on here, they couldn't grasp the importance of social media and potential sponsors noticing what's going on.

JJ Watts' presence will also help in this aspect.
If we are looking for a top tier global brand (as we should be) then they will look at the overall reach and exposure they will get with their shirt sponsorship.

The global tv reach of the Premier League is the main attraction for those kind of brands. You get on Sky Sports, you get on USA and NBC, you get on popular sports television networks around the world.

Having a big social media reach can also help. But we don't have that so it will make very little impact on those kind of companies.

And while JJ Watt also adds to the positive vibe around the club and its brand - ultimately he isn't going to have a massive sway on those kind of companies.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue May 16, 2023 11:41 pm

I wish them all the best for next season. They'll do another northern team I suspect - (hopefully not Bastards)

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by aggi » Tue May 16, 2023 11:48 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:58 pm
I meant gone from the Premier League, when they won’t be able to sponsor teams in 3 seasons time.

When that happens, all clubs will have to take lower sponsorship so relatively we wouldn’t be disadvantaged.
It's generally only the lower level teams in the premier league that have gambling sponsors. The big teams are out of their budget.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 16, 2023 11:53 pm

aggi wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:48 pm
It's generally only the lower level teams in the premier league that have gambling sponsors. The big teams are out of their budget.
Yes, agree.

Big teams = big brands who want the global exposure.

Small teams (our direct competitors) = betting firms.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by RammyClaret61 » Wed May 17, 2023 7:18 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:53 pm
Yes, agree.

Big teams = big brands who want the global exposure.

Small teams (our direct competitors) = betting firms.
But surely there are more than half a dozen big brands out there?

Airlines.. BA, American Airlines, United Airlines, Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Qatar & Qantas. All fly into and out of the U.K.

There are big companies in lots of sectors. Or is it just to easy to click your fingers at the gambling industry, and another unheard of crawls out of the woodwork waving a cheque.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed May 17, 2023 7:22 am

As long as its not PMC Wagner then I'm relatively not fussed

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by williamjblazkowicz » Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am

I’m surprised nobody else has mentioned this but doesn’t Alan Pace dislike having a betting firm as our sponsor? I seem to remember him saying he’d review that when he first came to the club.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by steve1264b » Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am

Looking for a blue chip sponsor is difficult, football clubs can be divisive so they would want reach as well as reputational security.

I have been surprised our owners have not been able to bring in a sponsor from the USA, there are a number of internationally renowned companies who HQ in Salt Lake for example.

Unfortunately we have to follow the money so it will probably be a gambling firm.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by dougcollins » Wed May 17, 2023 7:45 am

steve1264b wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am

Unfortunately we have to follow the money so it will probably be a gambling firm.
I just can't see Pace going for that.

We'll find out soon enough.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 17, 2023 7:47 am

williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am
I’m surprised nobody else has mentioned this but doesn’t Alan Pace dislike having a betting firm as our sponsor? I seem to remember him saying he’d review that when he first came to the club.
Morals v money. Depends whether he places the personal or business rationale higher.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 17, 2023 8:15 am

If it is a betting firm that offers the best sponsorship deal hopefully the club takes it.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 17, 2023 12:17 pm

RammyClaret61 wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 7:18 am
But surely there are more than half a dozen big brands out there?

Airlines.. BA, American Airlines, United Airlines, Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Qatar & Qantas. All fly into and out of the U.K.

There are big companies in lots of sectors. Or is it just to easy to click your fingers at the gambling industry, and another unheard of crawls out of the woodwork waving a cheque.
Yes, it does surprise me really that with so much interest around the world in the PL that we can’t attract bigger sponsors/brands. Even if you assume that mass worldwide audiences only take an interest in the top 6, we play them 12 times so that’s great exposure to their brand for 90 minutes a go.

I’d love to see us partner with a big brand over a multi-year contract but only the really big boys seem to get those deals for whatever reason. I’m no expert but imagine it’s probably to do with companies reducing above the line marketing spend in favour of below the line.

If an airline sponsors us for £5m say (£2.5m less than LoveBet) there’s no guarantees they’ll sell £6m more tickets, or any at all in fact, so the benefit is immeasurable.

Different for a start-up betting brand where you have to build a brand presence.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Raconteur » Wed May 17, 2023 1:28 pm

Are these betting companies legit. From what I've seen, they don't seem right. You never seem to see them advertised on tv in the UK or have the capacity to use these companies in the UK.

Is it a case of them sponsoring Premier league clubs purely for advertising for non UK customers?

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by JohnMcGreal » Wed May 17, 2023 1:37 pm

Word on the street is Bud Light will be next season's shirt sponsor.
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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Rowls » Wed May 17, 2023 2:18 pm

Shame because it was a great sponsor, as far as sponsors go.

My all-time favourite shirt is the 2000/01 shirt without a sponsor. If I'm ever a multi-millionaire i might well sponsor us to have nothing on our shirts for a year.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Rowls » Wed May 17, 2023 2:19 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 1:37 pm
Word on the street is Bud Light will be next season's shirt sponsor.
Naughty! :lol:

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Inchy » Wed May 17, 2023 3:13 pm

I suggested a while ago we would move back to a betting company when we go up. Some on here were very confident that Pace wouldnt allow that to happen, given his faiths objections to gambling.


I suppose the paid trip to Vegas probably put that to bed

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Post by Murger » Wed May 17, 2023 3:20 pm

They should take whoever offers the most cash. Whether that’s a betting company or Pornhub etc.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed May 17, 2023 3:31 pm

Re: the strip.
Anybody know when the Umbro contract ends?

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Post by andyh » Wed May 17, 2023 5:50 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 3:20 pm
They should take whoever offers the most cash. Whether that’s a betting company or Pornhub etc.
Surely OnlyFans :D

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Post by martin_p » Wed May 17, 2023 5:55 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 3:20 pm
They should take whoever offers the most cash. Whether that’s a betting company or Pornhub etc.
Pornhub? Who’d want that splashed across their chest?

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 17, 2023 6:26 pm

I was looking to buy one at half price! It seems the new owners upgrade of our exposure, has put an end to that. It will just form part of the shirt offering, at full price.

Well done them....but what about ne???1😪

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Fretters » Wed May 17, 2023 6:31 pm

Inchy wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 3:13 pm
I suggested a while ago we would move back to a betting company when we go up. Some on here were very confident that Pace wouldnt allow that to happen, given his faiths objections to gambling.


I suppose the paid trip to Vegas probably put that to bed
Hasn't Pace already committed to betting firm sponsorship since becoming chairman? I'm sure he has.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by wilks_bfc » Wed May 17, 2023 9:10 pm

Looks like CFS may have already moved on

They posted “From Burnley to……” with their logo in the green, white & red of the Italian flag

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 17, 2023 11:10 pm

Fretters wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 6:31 pm
Hasn't Pace already committed to betting firm sponsorship since becoming chairman? I'm sure he has.
he did - also said it the spread:EX deal was similar in value to the LoveBet £7.5m deal that collapsed during covid - though the sponsor stayed with us in a smaller deal in the Championship

The 2022 accounts suggest is wasn't unless all the deals incorporated a significant bonus for retaining Premier League status - I say this because we know that the adverts on all those LED screens were not given away for free - I cannot be the only one disappointed by the poor performance of the commercial income side in the last accounts - hopefully things will be much more positive on that front going forward

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by ClaretinJapan » Thu May 18, 2023 4:56 am

welsbyswife wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:36 pm
Best shirt sponsor ever must have been Rochdale. All in One Garden Centre with a watering can on the front of the shirt. Brilliant :D
I think Brighton were sponsored by SKINT - a record label, in 1999, when they were indeed skint.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Firthy » Thu May 18, 2023 8:34 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm
Maybe JJ Watt will be using his contacts/influence in the States to help bring in sponsors?
Would love a Nike Air football shirt with Jordan as the logo dunking a basket 😅

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 18, 2023 10:42 am

Firthy wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:34 am
Would love a Nike Air football shirt with Jordan as the logo dunking a basket 😅
How very PSG of you

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by burnmark » Thu May 18, 2023 5:11 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 9:10 pm
Looks like CFS may have already moved on

They posted “From Burnley to……” with their logo in the green, white & red of the Italian flag
Sponsoring Parma

https://twitter.com/parmacalcio_en/stat ... oXof3Y3G-Q
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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu May 18, 2023 5:17 pm

Classic Burnley shirt ?.......Has anyone mentioned the 1962 Wembley shirt ?......

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Pickles » Thu May 18, 2023 5:21 pm

burnmark wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 5:11 pm
Sponsoring Parma

https://twitter.com/parmacalcio_en/stat ... oXof3Y3G-Q
That's big for them and right on brand. Parma are definitely one of those iconic teams, lots for CFS to dig into.

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Re: Classic Football Shirts

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu May 18, 2023 5:26 pm

The 1913/14 Cup Final shirt has a very special look about it.......if anyone can post a link ?

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