Transfer budget

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by Clarets86 » Sat May 20, 2023 9:39 pm

4midable wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 1:24 pm
100mil
That’s numberwang!

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by roperclaret » Sat May 20, 2023 9:43 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 9:32 pm
The amortisation of them is - the cash payment can be anything from all upfront to the more usual, paid in full by 50% - 80% of the initial contract term. Never heard of a single transfer fee that is paid across a full initial multi-year contract term, so that the final instalment is paid as the players initial contract with the club expires

As always, I am happy to receive evidence to the contrary
Agreed, but on some cases you not pay the full amount (eg Ben Gibson). And if everyone paid up front there would be no reason to use Macquarie (eg Chris Wood)

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat May 20, 2023 9:52 pm

Far more pounds than a window of just Dale Stephens anyway.

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat May 20, 2023 11:18 pm

Surely It'll be 'Undislosed'? But as everyone we buy and indeed sell are for undisclosed fees, we wouldn't know if we'd over or under spent on whatever that undisclosed budget is anyway

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by Spiral » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:03 pm

BUMP

Interesting to read this thread again now we're deep into the window. Based on the highest reported figures including add-ons transfermarkt.co.uk has us down at spending €65.7m, or £56.6m, and we're still likely to spend another chunk more by the looks of things.

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:39 pm

Spiral wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:03 pm
BUMP

Interesting to read this thread again now we're deep into the window. Based on the highest reported figures including add-ons transfermarkt.co.uk has us down at spending €65.7m, or £56.6m, and we're still likely to spend another chunk more by the looks of things.
Reckon told spends before sales could be 90-100m basically spending all our tv money

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:04 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:39 pm
Reckon told spends before sales could be 90-100m basically spending all our tv money
Not sure that’s accurate.

Posted this on the other thread:

Well so far we’ve spent around £47m. Wage bill for this season should be in the region of £60-70m. Commercial revenue is suggested to be higher than ever before at £14/15m. Operating costs were around £19m in the PL last time. Doing some back of fag packet maths that leaves around £50-60m from the £135-145m expected total revenues this season. So purely from a future income / expenditure perspective it works out (for now).

Then you consider of that £50m (let’s round up cause of agent fees) spend so far, only around a quarter of that is upfront, so in cash flow around £12.5m goes out. We’ve received a fee for Bobby Thomas and might yet sell another player here or there. Perhaps there was even some cash left over from last season, or perhaps there’s been some extra investment into the ALK investment vehicles, but of course those two points are speculative.

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:06 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:04 pm
Not sure that’s accurate.

Posted this on the other thread:

Well so far we’ve spent around £47m. Wage bill for this season should be in the region of £60-70m. Commercial revenue is suggested to be higher than ever before at £14/15m. Operating costs were around £19m in the PL last time. Doing some back of fag packet maths that leaves around £50-60m from the £135-145m expected total revenues this season. So purely from a future income / expenditure perspective it works out (for now).

Then you consider of that £50m (let’s round up cause of agent fees) spend so far, only around a quarter of that is upfront, so in cash flow around £12.5m goes out. We’ve received a fee for Bobby Thomas and might yet sell another player here or there. Perhaps there was even some cash left over from last season, or perhaps there’s been some extra investment into the ALK investment vehicles, but of course those two points are speculative.
I just mean our tv money will be around 105m so we could be banking on spending it all and staying up

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:08 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:06 pm
I just mean our tv money will be around 105m so we could be banking on spending it all and staying up
Well no, still incorrect. There is a wage bill of ~70m and operating expenses of ~20m that need paying… from the tv money.

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:10 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:08 pm
Well no, still incorrect. There is a wage bill of ~70m and operating expenses of ~20m that need paying… from the tv money.
Right that’s fine your correct, it really didn’t need to be that big of a deal, in theory though we could still be sending what would equate to our tv money

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Re: Transfer budget

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:35 am

Be interesting to see what our transfer budget is and how its funded

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