Fleetwood Town Owner Guity of Fraud

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:10 pm

Andy Pilley Chairman of Fleetwood Town found guilty of fraud and will be sentenced 23rd May with the Judge indicating jail sentence.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving scumbag.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:14 pm

I read something a good while ago but thought it had blown over. Clearly not and now in custody awaiting sentence.

Fleetwood have confirmed it won’t affect the running of the club.

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:16 pm

I believe he also has a large stake in Waterford fc in Ireland.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:21 pm

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 20, 2023 9:16 pm
I believe he also has a large stake in Waterford fc in Ireland.

They own Waterford I think

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:28 pm

A few years ago a groundwork company I know had to threaten to rip out a load of work they had done for the club if they didn't get paid. What is it with the Fylde Coast clubs and dodgy owners ?

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:36 pm

Pilley is a throughly decent guy when you compare him with the guy at AFC Fylde!

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:50 pm

Sorry Marney, Pilley is a bully and a crook of the first order. Whilst DH is a hard headed businessman he is not in Pilleys class in terms of morality.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun May 21, 2023 12:21 pm

He has worked miracles for Fleetwood and has done much good for the town and Blackpool.

It also looks like he could be an uncompromising so and so, who sails close to and beyond the wind!

Jail beckons.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun May 21, 2023 1:29 pm

Ive been following this matter over the last 6-7 months. Ill stick my neck out and suggest he is looking at between 10-14 years in prison.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun May 21, 2023 1:32 pm

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 1:29 pm
Ive been following this matter over the last 6-7 months. Ill stick my neck out and suggest he is looking at between 10-14 years in prison.

Bloody hell. When I read he was told to expect a custodial sentence I wasn’t expecting anything like that.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun May 21, 2023 1:43 pm

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 1:29 pm
Ive been following this matter over the last 6-7 months. Ill stick my neck out and suggest he is looking at between 10-14 years in prison.

Seriously ?? Bloody hell , I know he’s got previous and this has been a very long trial but 10-14 yrs! I’d have imagined about 6 yrs tops due to the public impact aspect of mis-selling energy . Though my legal prowess involves being called to the bar for drinks only .

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Sun May 21, 2023 1:45 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 12:21 pm
He has worked miracles for Fleetwood and has done much good for the town and Blackpool.

In the same way that Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity.

Pilleys company are BES. Go on to Trustpilot and read the reviews, assuming they are genuine it looks like BES over charge their customers then prevent them from reclaiming their money ranging from hundreds to thousands and they appear to be small businesses without the legal capability of obtaining justice. Note also the positive reviews which follow a very similar pattern, they almost always name a Co-respondent.

Hopefully Pilley will be given a long stretch, and those defrauded of their money will be able to recoup some of their losses as BES should be wide open now.

There may be repercussions for Fleetwood as well depending on how closely they are entwined with BES.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun May 21, 2023 2:19 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 1:43 pm
Seriously ?? Bloody hell , I know he’s got previous and this has been a very long trial but 10-14 yrs! I’d have imagined about 6 yrs tops due to the public impact aspect of mis-selling energy . Though my legal prowess involves being called to the bar for drinks only .

He has been found guilty of multiple charges. He ran a trial so he will receive no credit when sentenced and it is right at the top end of the scale in the guidelines. Ill be amazed if he gets under 10 years.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun May 21, 2023 2:24 pm

Interesting one re Fleetwood because he will be disqualified as a director by the league.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun May 21, 2023 4:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 2:24 pm
Interesting one re Fleetwood because he will be disqualified as a director by the league.

He's probably less dodgy then some of the rogues they have let run clubs ie Bury.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun May 21, 2023 4:47 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 4:46 pm
He's probably less dodgy then some of the rogues they have let run clubs ie Bury.

But he’s now officially dodgy with a fraud conviction

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Sun May 21, 2023 5:08 pm

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 20, 2023 9:50 pm
Sorry Marney, Pilley is a bully and a crook of the first order. Whilst DH is a hard headed businessman he is not in Pilleys class in terms of morality.

We’ll agree to disagree here Volvo!

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun May 21, 2023 5:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat May 20, 2023 9:21 pm
They own Waterford I think

Yep sure do , now John Walters ( part of the board ) walked out last week which most of did think was strange now we know why he did . Saw in Terryland two weeks ago still looks like a very fit the player .

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun May 21, 2023 5:34 pm

Wasn't his stalking of someone or threatening behaviour tied in with this case or was that another case against him?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun May 21, 2023 5:36 pm

Tribesmen wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 5:31 pm
Yep sure do , now John Walters ( part of the board ) walked out last week which most of did think was strange now we know why he did . Saw in Terryland two weeks ago still looks like a very fit the player .

I wasn’t aware of that but he’s left his role with both clubs

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Tue May 23, 2023 4:41 pm

sentence now adjourned until July for the preparation of a PSR.

Lip · Post by **Lip** » Tue May 23, 2023 5:10 pm

What to expect at a PSR interview?
What is needed for a pre-sentence report?
A pre-sentence report is intended to give the sentencing court some understanding as to why you committed the offence, how you feel about it now, and what your background, family and work circumstances are. Using this information, the court will decide the most appropriate sentence to give you.

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Tue May 23, 2023 5:12 pm

It also assesses the risk to the public and the likelihood of further offending

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sun May 21, 2023 12:21 pm
He has worked miracles for Fleetwood and has done much good for the town and Blackpool.

It also looks like he could be an uncompromising so and so, who sails close to and beyond the wind!

Jail beckons.

Has he? The club have done well, but I can't say he has done anything of note for the town (as a Fleetwood resident).
The Fleetwood FC set-up is very very good for the size of town and club, though I only know of Pilley himself by his reputation (as mentioned).

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Wed May 24, 2023 2:01 pm

JTClaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 pm
Has he? The club have done well, but I can't say he has done anything of note for the town (as a Fleetwood resident).
The Fleetwood FC set-up is very very good for the size of town and club, though I only know of Pilley himself by his reputation (as mentioned).

Sure the owner ofThe Corner Chippy would disagree ha ha

He has invested a lot but more in Burn Naze with Pool Foot, always surprised me he didn't build it in Fleetwood itself, I know its only a mile or two away.

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Wed May 24, 2023 2:55 pm

one of the best academies around for their level

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed May 24, 2023 11:40 pm

His Wikipedia page lists lots, under 'Philanthropy'

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Pilley

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Thu May 25, 2023 6:33 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Wed May 24, 2023 11:40 pm
His Wikipedia page lists lots, under 'Philanthropy'

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Pilley

Not sure what relevance that has to him being a convicted fraudster or maybe I’m missing something?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu May 25, 2023 6:39 pm

Foshiznik wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 6:33 pm
Not sure what relevance that has to him being a convicted fraudster or maybe I’m missing something?

Yes

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Fri May 26, 2023 12:10 pm

Care to elaborate?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri May 26, 2023 12:15 pm

Two people with the same surname have been added to their board, while the owner has some time at His Majesty's pleasure.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri May 26, 2023 6:13 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 12:15 pm
Two people with the same surname have been added to their board, while the owner has some time at His Majesty's pleasure.

According to Fleetwood:

“Steve Curwood, who has been the Club’s CEO for 15 years, will be appointed Interim Chairman with current Vice Chairman Phil Brown to join the board as a Director.”

They have said there will be no further changes to the board until the completion of the change of ownership.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri May 26, 2023 7:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 6:13 pm
According to Fleetwood:

“Steve Curwood, who has been the Club’s CEO for 15 years, will be appointed Interim Chairman with current Vice Chairman Phil Brown to join the board as a Director.”

They have said there will be no further changes to the board until the completion of the change of ownership.

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... lR-Iw&s=19 this is where I read it.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri May 26, 2023 9:41 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 7:25 pm
https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... lR-Iw&s=19 this is where I read it.

Strange - I read the info on the Fleetwood official site

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:20 pm

13 years

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:20 pm

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:20 pm
13 years

I think I’ll double check that.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:24 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:20 pm
I think I’ll double check that.

ppp might talk total bollo's a lot of the time but I think he is right on this one

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news ... ud-4207250

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:15 pm

Jailed for 13 years - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-66099646

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:44 pm

One or two posters above suggesting he wasn't such a bad chap, but basically him and his crew ( 3 other BES employees got jail terms) were pirates plundering small businesses. They should have made him walk the plank but now the taxpayer will have to feed and shelter him for circa 13 years.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 6:12 am

PPP was not wrong when he said Pilley was looking at a long sentence!

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:04 am

Boy they don't mess about in the UK , if he was on trail here in Ireland he would have got a €20 fine .

Lip · Post by **Lip** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:28 am

Gaoled?????

ClaretCliff · Post by **ClaretCliff** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:34 am

Lip wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:28 am
Gaoled?????

Yes, gaoled. It’s a valid alternative word for jailed.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am

He should have hitched a ride on the Covid gravy train.....

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:56 am

Lip wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:28 am
Gaoled?????

Newspapers love to use it.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:10 am

Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:56 am
Newspapers love to use it.

Maybe around 1760 to 1830 but not now

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:12 am

It amazes me that you can get a longer sentence for fraud than for taking a life.

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:15 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:10 am
Maybe around 1760 to 1830 but not now

I see it quite often. It's mainly used by snobby broadsheet journalists.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:22 am

Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:15 am
I see it quite often. It's mainly used by snobby broadsheet journalists.

I was going to say I've never seen it in the daily sport

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:24 am

Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:15 am
I see it quite often. It's mainly used by snobby broadsheet journalists.

when?