City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:51 pm

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Back when Liverpool won their first European final, despite being an ardent Burnley fan I desperately wanted the English team to prevail and I actually took pride in the fact that that they did. Regarding tonight and City I started off feeling completely indifferent and ended up praying for an Inter equaliser. City have not only blatantly bought the cup, but they have quite obviously done it in contravention of UEFA's FFP rules. The only reason they've got away with this is clearly because they have way, way deeper pockets than even UEFA regarding lawyers and time in court etc, etc and they made that very, very that clear. So UEFA folded. Everything City ever win these days is a scam and I, as a Brit take no pride in it whatsoever. Joke!
Hilarious to claim City bought the cup, like every other team in the same competition hasn’t tried to do the same thing.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:01 pm

Delighted for City fans and Pep, a once in a blue moon coach, absolute genius and transformed English football forever. Sure they have spent money but god damn they have spent wisely and executed a plan perfectly. You only have to look at Peps disciples to see how genius he is.

They’re also competing with billionaire owner teams, you think Bayern winning 11 league titles in a row is just a fluke? PSG the same, Chelsea just spent 600£m in 12 months, Arsenal must be touching 400£m spent in the last two years, there’s a reason Real and Barca win La Liga every year.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:40 pm

Good to see the game is in such a healthy state.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:48 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:01 pm
Delighted for City fans and Pep, a once in a blue moon coach, absolute genius and transformed English football forever. Sure they have spent money but god damn they have spent wisely and executed a plan perfectly. You only have to look at Peps disciples to see how genius he is.

They’re also competing with billionaire owner teams, you think Bayern winning 11 league titles in a row is just a fluke? PSG the same, Chelsea just spent 600£m in 12 months, Arsenal must be touching 400£m spent in the last two years, there’s a reason Real and Barca win La Liga every year.
Barca/Real - TV deals skewed in their favour, similar to Celtic/Rangers and they've also been allowed to take the **** for years up until recently, however they're also huge global brands, bigger than the absolute majority of football clubs.

Bayern - German rules means no one can own more than 49% of a club I think, they don't have a billionaire owner, they're just better because of their brand built up over decades, power base, sponsorship deals etc.

Pep is a very good manager, the ultimate disciple himself of Johann Cruyff.
He's taken all the pre -existing ideas in football and honed them for the modern game.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:04 pm

Wasn't Cruyff a 'disciple' of Rinus Michels? These types of coaches have existed for many decades, even before Michels'. They come and they go; innovative ideas put them on a different pedestal in comparison to their contemporaries but Guardiola will be surpassed and consigned to history eventually.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:35 pm

You can have all the money in the world but you still have to put it all together - Man United are proof if your plan is flawed you won't buy success

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by equinox » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:12 pm

Out there in the big wide World there are 21 individuals that if put together as a squad could beat Man City, unfortunately there isn't anyone who knows how to do it apart from....Guardiola.

Shut up about the money, the guy is a footballing Einstein.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by timshorts » Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:23 pm

There seems to be an awful lot of crap written/typ

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:57 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:51 pm
Hilarious to claim City bought the cup, like every other team in the same competition hasn’t tried to do the same thing.
Point taken and accepted, but what I was trying to say was that City have been charged with FFP breaches (and I think the word breaches probably understates things considerably) which they took to court to defend and basically UEFA have backed off and aren't up for the scrap or (as reported) financially able to fight them. Yes, most clubs "buy" their success at whatever level, but who else in the current EPL or Champions League has been charged with breaching FFP aside from Everton who incidentally ultimately may well be the ones who get done simply because they're an easier target.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by daveisaclaret » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:27 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:57 am
who else in the current EPL or Champions League has been charged with breaching FFP
Inter and Milan (finalist and semi-finalist) were both fined by UEFA last year for breaking FFP along with PSG, Juventus and a few other teams.

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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:51 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:04 pm
Wasn't Cruyff a 'disciple' of Rinus Michels? These types of coaches have existed for many decades, even before Michels'. They come and they go; innovative ideas put them on a different pedestal in comparison to their contemporaries but Guardiola will be surpassed and consigned to history eventually.
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All the way back to Nelson born Jimmy Hogan each generation building on the last but ultimately based on his theory and practice
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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:58 am

Essentially as we all know Burnley is the birthplace of Total Football
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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:00 pm

Although it was whilst playing for Bolton on tour in The Netherlands that Jimmy Hogan decided to return to teach the Dutch how to play football and then the Austrians, Hungarians, Swiss and Germans...
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Re: City v Inter. The Purist Treble.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:08 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:51 am
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All the way back to Nelson born Jimmy Hogan each generation building on the last but ultimately based on his theory and practice
That's a very interesting list of names. And the one I was trying to recall from the 60's was Ernst Happel.

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