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Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Dressinggown » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:06 pm

Can't find another thread.

Start here.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:14 pm

Really exciting team. I think we win the ashes this year.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Bordeaux » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:15 pm

Lot of runs next 5 days...400 a day maybe, but who gets them...

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:21 pm

Very excited for the Ashes. Should be a fascinating series but I fear we may come unstuck. Despite all Jimmy and Broad's experience I think their attack as way ahead of ours. Which in turn makes our approach to batting far riskier.

I think if England it win it will be by the tightest of margins but I could see Australia will win comfortably.
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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by roperclaret » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:25 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:21 pm
Very excited for the Ashes. Should be a fascinating series but I fear we may come unstuck. Despite all Jimmy and Broad's experience I think their attack as way ahead of ours. Which in turn makes our approach to batting far riskier.

I think if England it win it will be by the tightest of margins but I could see Australia will win comfortably.
Cue Jimmy and Stu skittling them out for 120 tomorrow morning 😄

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:28 pm

roperclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:25 pm
Cue Jimmy and Stu skittling them out for 120 tomorrow morning 😄
I do hope so.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Jamesy » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:40 pm

I’m not worried about the batting as we are capable of piling runs on quickly as we all know. I’m worried about our bowling attack even on our pitches. The Aussies can bat a long way down the order and they have probably got 4 of the best bowlers in the world.
Really looking forward to it though and just had the email saying my Ashes replica shirt is being despatched.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:50 pm

https://youtu.be/rT1HEXNI9c4

Bring me my bow......

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:54 pm

Two very confident sides going head to head.

The first battle will be the toss and if Australia dare bat first if they win. It should be the obvious choice, but England have chased some big scores down recently, quite easily.
They won't want to set anything under 400 for us to chase.
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Post by jdrobbo » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:56 pm

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It needs two teams and we’ll miss this guy in the next month or so. What a player. I think it’ll be a drawn series, so Aussies to retain the ashes.

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Post by Jamesy » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:03 pm

I was at the MCG on Boxing Day, Australia v South Africa test where they made it the Shane Warne tribute day. Glad I was there even as an Englishman.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by timshorts » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:05 pm

As usual, only one Glamorgan player involved. Go marnus.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:06 pm

timshorts wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:05 pm
As usual, only one Glamorgan player involved. Go marnus.
He’s so so good!!

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:10 pm

Can’t call it yet, I’ll make my call after the first test. That Aussie bowling attack is scary!

If we take them on and are successful, it will completely change test cricket imo

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Jamesy » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:10 pm

Best South African since Kevin Pieterson.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Jamesy » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:12 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:10 pm
Can’t call it yet, I’ll make my call after the first test. That Aussie bowling attack is scary!

If we take them on and are successful, it will completely change test cricket imo
That’s what worries me, their bowling attack. I watched em dismantle a good South African batting line up with consummate ease a few months ago.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Dressinggown » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:13 pm

Overall, the Aussies seem to have the better of the bowling attack.

Our lack of a top class spinner could be an issue but Moeen offers much more with the bat than Leach.

There is the factor that the visitors might want to go toe to toe with our new brand of cricket which could play into our hands. Hopefully.

Should be good stuff.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:37 pm

I wouldn't call the Aussie bowling attack scary, but they are very accurate. They don't bowl many long hops or half volleys.
As shown last time they came.

Until you get after them. When Stokes unleashed they didn't know where to bowl.
If we get on top early and score like we have been. We could whitewash them.
Their egos won't be able to take it.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:38 pm

They’ve got Lyon with 487 test wickets, we’ve just dragged Moeen Ali out of retirement. I think this underlines the difference between the two protagonists.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:53 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:10 pm
Can’t call it yet, I’ll make my call after the first test. That Aussie bowling attack is scary!

If we take them on and are successful, it will completely change test cricket imo
Proper little Nostradamus waiting til after the first test.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:41 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:37 pm
I wouldn't call the Aussie bowling attack scary, but they are very accurate. They don't bowl many long hops or half volleys.
As shown last time they came.

Until you get after them. When Stokes unleashed they didn't know where to bowl.
If we get on top early and score like we have been. We could whitewash them.
Their egos won't be able to take it.
I like your optimism!.....fingers crossed.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by CleggHall » Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:24 am

Difficult to see England’s bowlers getting 20 wickets against a decent Aussie batting line-up but will be happy to be proved wrong.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Clive 1960 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:12 am

We need to get of to a good start as it will be tough to beat this Aussie team as i fear our bowling attack could be left with a lot to do if we go one down and the pitches will be key , but I'm looking forward to the Baz ball cricket.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:22 am

Not sure how it’ll go but it’s rare for the home side to lose a series now.
My worry is our bowling attack, I’ll be very surprised if Stokes is even 50% fit at the moment.
I think Robinson might be the main man with the ball overall, hopefully we can get Jimmy and Broad out there enough to do what they do because we know they’ll take wickets.

Batting wise, Crawley is still the risk. I hope he turns it around but I’ll be surprised if they don’t exploit him outside off stump.
The rest should be exciting to watch but they’ll not back down, I’m expecting us to get ripped out for an extremely low score at least once in the series but we’ll have to accept that.

Let’s go 3-1

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:09 am

I’ve not watched cricket for about 5 years but I do enjoy a good competitive Ashes series. Are we any good? What is the likelyhood of us winning (or even just being competitive?)?

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:25 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:09 am
I’ve not watched cricket for about 5 years but I do enjoy a good competitive Ashes series. Are we any good? What is the likelyhood of us winning (or even just being competitive?)?
I’d say we are quite good at the moment yes. Very good to watch anyway.
This will be the toughest opponent since we’ve changed the way we play anyway so it’ll be good value.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:38 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:09 am
I’ve not watched cricket for about 5 years but I do enjoy a good competitive Ashes series. Are we any good? What is the likelyhood of us winning (or even just being competitive?)?
The Aussies haven't won a series over here for 20 years but are a good side and the bookies have them slight favourites.
But you have to be a very good side to win an away series in the ashes.
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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:39 am

Sadly, because of another commitment, I'll miss the first session but will be home by the time the afternoon session starts.

Proper cricket is this.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:17 am

Advantage of WFH and having desk set up downstairs is that I can have the tele on in the background whilst working 😁

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Post by nil_desperandum » Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:35 am

Although this is a home series the weather and pitch conditions are not typical of an English "summer" at present, and I suspect that the Aussie bowling attack will be far more effective than ours on the pitches that we are likely to have.
I've been thinking over recent months that England would win this series, but since we've had all this "Australian" weather and having watched the Aussies against India, I fear that they will come out on top in a competitive series.
Unless there is a lot of rain later then draws are unlikely, but as others have pointed out - how many times can we expect to take 20 wickets?
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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:07 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:39 am
Sadly, because of another commitment, I'll miss the first session but will be home by the time the afternoon session starts.

Proper cricket is this.
Ditto, will be on in the car on my way home from Pride Park though

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:31 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:17 am
Advantage of WFH and having desk set up downstairs is that I can have the tele on in the background whilst working 😁
Same! Is it a 11am start?

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:31 am

Batting first. Looks a nice batting wicket and day.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:31 am

First victory with the coin toss

We’re batting first

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:31 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:31 am
Same! Is it a 11am start?
Yep 🏏
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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:33 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:25 am
I’d say we are quite good at the moment yes. Very good to watch anyway.
This will be the toughest opponent since we’ve changed the way we play anyway so it’ll be good value.
Appreciate it! Who are our players to watch? I know those who played 5 years ago but genuinely haven’t a clue who the others are! :lol:

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:40 am

Brook looks exciting with the bat. I think he’ll be a good one.

But they’ll all have a go. They won’t hang around.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:42 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:35 am
Although this is a home series the weather and pitch conditions are not typical of an English "summer" at present, and I suspect that the Aussie bowling attack will be far more effective than ours on the pitches that we are likely to have.
I've been thinking over recent months that England would win this series, but since we've had all this "Australian" weather and having watched the Aussies against India, I fear that they will come out on top in a competitive series.
Unless there is a lot of rain later then draws are unlikely, but as others have pointed out - how many times can we expect to take 20 wickets?
Interesting that the Aussies are playing the two English type bowlers in Hazelwood and Boland instead of the quick Starc.
Despite it looking more suited to the quicks.
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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:08 am

Crawley seems to have got his eye in early ...

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:08 am

As in the majority of Ashes series the first session and the first day of the First Test is likely to be influential on the rest of the series.
Let's see where we are at tea-time.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:09 am

Crawley has hit both opening bowlers for 4 off their first ball. Setting the tone.

The Aussies have already gone on the defensive.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:13 am

Have England ever scored 500 in a day against the Aussies before?

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Post by ChrisG » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:16 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:13 am
Have England ever scored 500 in a day against the Aussies before?
If they have, then the series in 2010/11 in Australia is the most likely candidate

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Post by Bosscat » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:18 am

Duckett dinks one to the keeper

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:19 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:13 am
Have England ever scored 500 in a day against the Aussies before?
Before when?

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Post by Asbury Park » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:23 am

Got the cricket on the tv on mute at work, so listening to TMS on the bbc sounds app but it’s about 30 seconds behind. Does anyone know an app where it’s played live like the radio?

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Post by Bosscat » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:25 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:19 am
Before when?
Close of play on the opening day perhaps 🤔

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:27 am

England have won the early mind games.

Scoring easy singles with the Aussies protecting the boundaries.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:29 am

Asbury Park wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:23 am
Got the cricket on the tv on mute at work, so listening to TMS on the bbc sounds app but it’s about 30 seconds behind. Does anyone know an app where it’s played live like the radio?
If it was a virgin box you could pause the live TV for 30 seconds to sync up.

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Re: Ashes Thread 2023

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:37 am

Shirt front at Edgbaston..

No reason we can't fill our boots.

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