Ashes Thread 2023

[Jamesy]

Can’t imagine a top class keeper wouldn’t have taken that to be fair. If he’s good enough to play as a batsman then play him but he’s not a test wicket keeper.

He is a top batsman in my opinion and should be in the side for that alone. As for keeping wicket, he isn’t England’s best wicket keeper by a long chalk and ultimately this could have a huge bearing on whether or not we win this series. Against this top batting line up it is essential to take the catches.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Bairstow is an interesting one. Where do you play him if your not playing him as a keeper

[CoolClaret]

Bairstow is an interesting one. Where do you play him if your not playing him as a keeper

It’s tough

Root has to play four, can’t push him up the order

So it’s which two would you prefer out of - Pope, Brook & Bairstow

[Newcastleclaret93]

It’s tough

Root has to play four, can’t push him up the order

So it’s which two would you prefer out of - Pope, Brook & Bairstow

My biggest issue with dropping pope is I am just not sure Bairstow is good enough for a 3.

In the ashes I tend to think Bairstow has to start as the keeper just to give us an extra batter.

[CoolClaret]

My biggest issue with dropping pope is I am just not sure Bairstow is good enough for a 3.

In the ashes I tend to think Bairstow has to start as the keeper just to give us an extra batter.

It just takes a different temperament batting at 3 - you’re basically an opener

He could bat 5 no problem to get after the bowlers when the ball is older and the bowlers have toiled a bit…

Thing is - quite rightly as well, what he contributes with the bat you more than lose with the difference in keeping wicket.

We have enough data on this - we could have had the Aussies potentially skittled by now if he’d have taken that stumping before Head got going.

Also historically he averages only 5 more than Foakes with the bat…

[jrgbfc]

Bairstow is an interesting one. Where do you play him if your not playing him as a keeper

Just don't pick him.

[RVclaret]

Another drop by Bairstow.

[Gunfury]

I’m pretty sure Foakes would have taken all them….can’t miss chances at this level against this lot

[fatboy47]

I think the point being overlooked is that having that secondary role as a keeper can actually remove pressure that's on him as a batsman..and obviously vice versa.

To be walking out as purely a 3 or a 5 in an ashes series, without that safety net could be too big an ask for him (or you could argue that it's exactly what's needed)

[claretburns]

Stokes drops a catch, albeit he did very well to get near it and stop it going through the field for 4.

[CoolClaret]

We’d have had them skittled by now

I don’t think we can afford to do this - you can’t give the Aussies a sniff

[Gunfury]

I think the point being overlooked is that having that secondary role as a keeper can actually remove pressure that's on him as a batsman..and obviously vice versa.

To be walking out as purely a 3 or a 5 in an ashes series, without that safety net could be too big an ask for him (or you could argue that it's exactly what's needed)

And when he’s making mistakes as a wicket keeper the pressure will be on him to contribute with the bat….it’s like an all rounder if you’re not taking wickets you’ve got to score runs and vice versa

[CoolClaret]

There’s pressure on no matter what your role is, in an Ashes series

Poor argument tbh

[Spijed]

Who ever contemplated that Bairstow would be good enough to keep wicket in an Ashes series in the first place?

[ClaretTony]

Another drop by Bairstow.

I’ve missed the first couple of overs this morning. Has he dropped another chance?

[Gunfury]

I’ve missed the first couple of overs this morning. Has he dropped another chance?

Yep,inside edge off Jimmy,hit his glove and onto the floor

[Spijed]

And Moeen Ali has just been charged by ICC

[taio]

I’ve missed the first couple of overs this morning. Has he dropped another chance?

Yes inside edge bowled by Anderson

[CoolClaret]

I’ve missed the first couple of overs this morning. Has he dropped another chance?

https://tinyurl.com/BairstowDropAgain

[ClaretTony]

Jimmy gets Carey - his 1,100th first class wicket

[RVclaret]

Needed that. Jimmy deserves that.

[claretburns]

Carey bowled for 66 on his 99th ball by Jimmy!

[TheFamilyCat]

Bairstow is an interesting one. Where do you play him if your not playing him as a keeper

Where he played last summer and showed his best ever form. Not sure why anyone is trying to overcomplicate this.

[Gunfury]

Right let’s get rid of the tail and have some kind of lead

[RVclaret]

Where he played last summer and showed his best ever form. Not sure why anyone is trying to overcomplicate this.

Harry Brook been in outstanding form in the past year though.

[ClaretTony]

https://tinyurl.com/BairstowDropAgain

You have to take those at this level

[DAVETHEVICAR]

Luckily this drop chance wasn’t too costly but it could have been

[CoolClaret]

Sadly, I think we’ve really played into the Aussies hands here.

Ball was doing nothing yesterday and we didn’t have a true quick to cause problems when it was dead - ended up flogging Moeen and now he’s nackered…. The extra chances that we did have, have been lost because we have a sub par keeper, keeping wicket

[Silkyskills1]

Totally agree with the post above regarding a below par wicket keeper. Two straight forward chances in the afternoon missed. Can't afford that against the best in the world.
Unaware that he missed another one this morning. Oops!

[fatboy47]

There’s pressure on no matter what your role is, in an Ashes series

Poor argument tbh

I don't think anyone's arguing CC. There's no need.

[CoolClaret]

I don't think anyone's arguing CC. There's no need.

I think you’re misconstruing what I meant-

A point raised is an ‘argument’

Not that people are ‘arguing’

[Clive 1960]

People need to get of Johnny's back wicketkeeper do drop chances from time to time but before is injury he was playing best cricket of his life and yes Foakes will feel unlucky to be left out .

[ClaretTony]

At last we’ve got Khawaja

[wilks_bfc]

Finally Khawaja is got at

[ClaretTony]

And now Lyons

[wilks_bfc]

Lyons gone for 1 off Robinson caught Duckett

We may yet go into 2nd innings ahead

[ClaretTony]

What do we think of Pietersen on commentary?

[RVclaret]

What do we think of Pietersen on commentary?

I like his crucial, vital, absolutely superbly brilliant commentary

[Longsidelenny1882]

Please tell me how you get foakes and bairstow in the same test team upthecolne

[ClaretTony]

Boland gone - nine down

[wilks_bfc]

Pope with the easiest catch he’ll ever have to make

[Inchy]

Thought it was heading for a draw before the Khawaja wicket. Firmly in the driving seat now

[ClaretTony]

Thought it was heading for a draw before the Khawaja wicket. Firmly in the driving seat now

Very unlikely to be a draw if there are no hold ups for weather

[ClaretTony]

Pope with the easiest catch he’ll ever have to make

You don’t often pick up a dolly there

[ClaretTony]

First innings lead

[wilks_bfc]

Cummings is now goings

Said we’d go into 2nd in lead

[claretburns]

There will be barely any cricket this afternoon due to weather, tomorrow should be good all day then limited cricket on Tuesday due to rain, draw very likely.

[ClaretTony]

There will be barely any cricket this afternoon due to weather, tomorrow should be good all day then limited cricket on Tuesday due to rain, draw very likely.

Should get the afternoon session in

[PremierLeagueClass]

There will be barely any cricket this afternoon due to weather, tomorrow should be good all day then limited cricket on Tuesday due to rain, draw very likely.

I’d get a bet on if you think that and make a fortune! The draw is unlikely.

[Quickenthetempo]

I said 380 was par on that wicket. Not far off.