Martin Tyler

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:15 am

Stepping down as a Sky commentator ahead of the new season but apparently not retiring. Now 77, his contract is not being renewed.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:18 am

Iconic voice down the years

clarets12 · Post by **clarets12** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:21 am

I could see BT Sports / TNT taking him on.

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:26 am

Shame. He does do quite a bit for US/Premier League Network I think for the non-UK televised games so may just continue with that.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:40 am

Long overdue. Good commentator in his day, but last few seasons he’s been rambling and too slow on big moments.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:48 am

Will the Sky games no longer be “LIVE” then?

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:50 am

Sky have released 8 of their commentating team! That only leaves 5….cost cutting exercise evidently!

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:54 am

It’s funny reading the Sky Sports Facebook comments about him, as according to the experts on there he was biased due to being a Man United/Man City/Arsenal/Spurs/Everton/Liverpool/Chelsea fan.

sjb · Post by **sjb** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:09 am

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:54 am
It’s funny reading the Sky Sports Facebook comments about him, as according to the experts on there he was biased due to being a Man United/Man City/Arsenal/Spurs/Everton/Liverpool/Chelsea fan.

He may well support a 'big' club but his childhood team was Chester. He collects their programmes & bought a few off me - absolute gentleman who spoke very well about Burnley.

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:20 am

I thought he was a Woking fan.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:25 am

He did the commentary on our Sherpa Van final with Andy Gray in the very early days of satellite football coverage with BSB.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:32 am

Every time he works on big game, he trends on twitter. Younger fans don't like his style.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:53 am

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:20 am
I thought he was a Woking fan.

He is very much a Woking fan

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:54 am

Every Sky commentator and the people who bring live updates from games had to all reapply for their jobs this summer.

Such a shame Sky are constantly shooting themselves in the foot, from what used to be probably the countries leading channel for live football is rapidly becoming the worst.

Claretitus · Post by **Claretitus** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:00 am

Soccer Saturday won’t be the same next season. No Jeff, and now gonna be missing several familiar faces from around the grounds. As stated earlier, Sky seem to find it very easy to shoot themself in the foot. If it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it. People will soon find another channel.

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:05 am

Iconic voice but has completely ruined some big moments in the last few seasons. Hasn’t sounded arsed for a long time,
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Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:06 am

He has always been Mr Sky football with his 'and it's live!' bit. I suppose he is at the age now where he wants to ease off a bit.

welsbyswife · Post by **welsbyswife** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:40 am

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:25 am
He did the commentary on our Sherpa Van final with Andy Gray in the very early days of satellite football coverage with BSB.

Still got the video. It's quite a high quality production compared to the end of season highlights videos that were available at the time!

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:43 am

I just hope Matterface gets nowhere near the job. I like Martin Tyler and it’s a shame to see him go.

Big Vinny K · Post by **Big Vinny K** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:23 am

Sky seem adamant on making change just for the sake of it.

They have ruined soccer Saturday changing the panel and now Jeff S is going.

They’ve got rid of Soccer AM - which has been decent for a couple of years now with good bands and guests mixed with some of the old stuff of showing the best goals of the week and showboat.

They’ve gradually got rid of some of the best cricket presenters.

And now for whatever reason deciding to get rid of their best and most knowledgeable football commentator

In a campaign to be more diverse they seem to have misplaced the ageist memo.

Ziggy Stardust · Post by **Ziggy Stardust** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:32 am

He's 77. He's well past his best. Basically a lot of the Sky presenters and commentators that joined 15-20 years ago are getting towards retirement age. It's natural they just move on and the new generation come through. The make up of that new generation will be more diverse. It's just not going to be jobs for the boys anymore.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:37 am

He talked too much instead of doing his job, which was to tell us the name of the player in possession. Should've gone years ago.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:43 am

As long as that ball ache Hinchcliffe doesn’t get the main role.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:20 pm

Big Vinny K wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:23 am
Sky seem adamant on making change just for the sake of it.

They have ruined soccer Saturday changing the panel and now Jeff S is going.

They’ve got rid of Soccer AM - which has been decent for a couple of years now with good bands and guests mixed with some of the old stuff of showing the best goals of the week and showboat.

They’ve gradually got rid of some of the best cricket presenters.

And now for whatever reason deciding to get rid of their best and most knowledgeable football commentator

In a campaign to be more diverse they seem to have misplaced the ageist memo.

Spoiled Sunday morning for me too a couple of years ago with the ending of Sunday Supplement & Goals on Sunday.

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:34 pm

On Goals on Sunday with Chris Kamara, was there another bloke who was also on the Burnley Are Back video from 1992? I can't remember the name of the bloke...

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:41 pm

Ziggy Stardust wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:32 am
He's 77. He's well past his best. Basically a lot of the Sky presenters and commentators that joined 15-20 years ago are getting towards retirement age. It's natural they just move on and the new generation come through. The make up of that new generation will be more diverse. It's just not going to be jobs for the boys anymore.

It'll be over 30 years now since he started at Sky

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:51 pm

We’re losing some great commentators and pundits and now have the likes of Clinton Morrison, Jamie Mackie, Micah Richards and Ally McCoist to listen too.

clarets12 · Post by **clarets12** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:57 pm

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:51 pm
We’re losing some great commentators and pundits and now have the likes of Clinton Morrison, Jamie Mackie, Micah Richards and Ally McCoist to listen too.

The gap between Sky Sports and BT is narrowing, and not in a good way.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:59 pm

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:51 pm
We’re losing some great commentators and pundits and now have the likes of Clinton Morrison, Jamie Mackie, Micah Richards and Ally McCoist to listen too.

Along with Tim Sherwood

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:11 pm

I quite like McCoist.

Seems fairly balanced, knowledgeable and a decent bloke. Give me him on co commentary over Keown any day.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:12 pm

Amazing commentator back in the day, one of the best, but I remember having a game on at the back end of last season, can't remember who was playing, say Liverpool, and I was in the kitchen when a goal was scored, heard it from the living room, heard Tyler say "and Liverpool have scored" (or whomever it was who scored), and I swear to god he said it like it was something grave and unfortunate, not with any kind of bias creeping in or anything, but with the kind of intonation a commentator would have if they were saying something like "and it's a second yellow" (with an 'oh dear' unspoken but heavily implied). Took me a minute to realise from the other room that a goal had actually been scored, because even though he was saying the words he wasn't feeling it, and me, being kind of switched off, had to do a double-take cos it took me a sec to realise a goal had actually been scored. That tone, that right there on that one line of commentary, that should be nowhere near a goal. That's just the culmination of a slow and steady decline in energy from him. It's a shame, but I think he needs to move on because his energy just doesn't match the game any more. I want energy from footy. I don't want some stuffy, gentlemanly traditionalist talking like golf commentator, I want the crown noise turned up on the broadcast and some UFC-energy commentators losing their $hit.

In fact, if you want a better idea of the tone I'm talking about, imagine Phil Bird's tone on commentary when someone scores against us. Dread, worry, frustration, that kind of thing. That was Tyler's tone in that line. It's fine when it's Phil Bird because we expect bias from Burnley's in-house commentator, but it's not really appropriate from a neutral standpoint.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:18 pm

welsbyswife wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:40 am
Still got the video. It's quite a high quality production compared to the end of season highlights videos that were available at the time!

I've also kept the video safe even though I've no means of playing it now.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:27 pm

There's a tragedy afoot: whomever was typed instead of whoever. The horror...

But seriously, we need to fix this bloody edit function so we've got more than two nano-seconds to fix typos and stuff.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:47 pm

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:34 pm
On Goals on Sunday with Chris Kamara, was there another bloke who was also on the Burnley Are Back video from 1992? I can't remember the name of the bloke...

Rob McCaffrey used to do Goals on Sunday if you're referring to him?

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:16 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:47 pm
Rob McCaffrey used to do Goals on Sunday if you're referring to him?

Yes, that's him. Was he on our 4th division championship video?

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:25 pm

Maybe Granada are reviving ‘Kick off’ essential viewing on a Sunday afternoon when I was a kid… and a nice potential cushy presenting job to finish off his career. Up there with Motty, Moore and Sinstadt as the voices of football for me.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:48 pm

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:16 pm
Yes, that's him. Was he on our 4th division championship video?

Pretty sure he was he was the commentator on the Northampton Town 5-0 game
“5-0, 5 different scorers and each goal exhibits a different quality”

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:51 pm

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:16 pm
Yes, that's him. Was he on our 4th division championship video?

I think he appeared on the video ahead of the home game against Cardiff with some kids who were five games left seven points needed.

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:57 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:48 pm
Pretty sure he was he was the commentator on the Northampton Town 5-0 game
“5-0, 5 different scorers and each goal exhibits a different quality”

Was that not Clive Tyldesley?

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:51 pm
I think he appeared on the video ahead of the home game against Cardiff with some kids who were five games left seven points needed.

I think you're right.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:08 pm

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:57 pm
Was that not Clive Tyldesley?

I know Tyldesley did most of it on the video, but thinking about it, I think the Northampton game may have been Alistair Mann

I might have to rewatch it later on

aclaretinstevenage · Post by **aclaretinstevenage** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:53 am
He is very much a Woking fan

Last I knew he was on the coaching staff at Woking and has always been a supporter.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:28 pm

Pearcey wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:43 am
I just hope Matterface gets nowhere near the job. I like Martin Tyler and it’s a shame to see him go.

I've not stumbled across Matterface much tbh but I saw a clip of him on youtube doing the West Ham Europa final for Talksport radio and he was superb (I was really surprised given all the negative comments I read about him!)

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:28 pm

aclaretinstevenage wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:25 pm
Last I knew he was on the coaching staff at Woking and has always been a supporter.

Is he still coaching? Not bad at his age.

aclaretinstevenage · Post by **aclaretinstevenage** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:30 pm

I seem to be in a minority here but having played against him and witnessed his attitude post match I've always considered the man an arrogant arsehole and have never liked his commentating "style". Who will blow the smoke up Carragher's arse now Tyler is gone?

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:28 pm
I've not stumbled across Matterface much tbh but I saw a clip of him on youtube doing the West Ham Europa final for Talksport radio and he was superb (I was really surprised given all the negative comments I read about him!)

He is much better on the radio. It’s like he gets nervous on TV and tries too hard to be profound.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:28 pm
I've not stumbled across Matterface much tbh but I saw a clip of him on youtube doing the West Ham Europa final for Talksport radio and he was superb (I was really surprised given all the negative comments I read about him!)

He is one of the best radio commentators, explains exactly what is happening, and can fill in when nothings happening.... unfortunately that style doesn't work as well on TV

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:28 pm
I've not stumbled across Matterface much tbh but I saw a clip of him on youtube doing the West Ham Europa final for Talksport radio and he was superb (I was really surprised given all the negative comments I read about him!)

I agree, certainly a lot better than his tv commentary although I wouldn’t quite go as far as “superb”. I think it’s the fact that on the radio he has to describe the action, it means a lot less opportunity to waffle, and more often than not his waffling adds zero to the viewer experience.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:28 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:18 pm
He is one of the best radio commentators, explains exactly what is happening, and can fill in when nothings happening.... unfortunately that style doesn't work as well on TV

Alistair Bruce-Ball for me is the best radio commentator. The Geordie fellow (on 5 live) who’s name escapes me is also very good.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:34 pm

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:20 am
I thought he was a Woking fan.

Woking don't do fans.