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Darren Moore

Post by Murger » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:07 pm

Gone at Wednesday. Another weird 1.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by 4midable » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:10 pm

Another side who think they are bigger than they are
He was a good manager for them. Got em thru the **** at the end too

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by NottsClaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:11 pm

I think it's as likely he was told they've about £30 to spend this summer and agreed it was best that he left.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:18 pm

Dreadful decision
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Re: Darren Moore

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:24 pm

I think he's a really talented manager, hopefully he won't be out of work long.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by clarets12 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:28 pm

Hope they go back down.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by expoultryboy » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:37 pm

That's shocking

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:38 pm

What an astonishing decision

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by taio » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:08 pm

Struggle or even fail to see how this could be justified.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:18 pm

Something is going on there

No manager or recruitment chief and only 14 senior players.
It feels like they weren’t prepared for their promotion and he’s not being given the backing he deserves

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by roperclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:25 pm

It’s all about getting an overseas manager that can attract foreign players that are much cheaper. Same as Bournemouth. Wouldn’t surprise me if they go for Corboran, I believe he held talks with Leeds recently and he has history with Wednesday

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Duffer_ » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:42 pm

roperclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:25 pm
It’s all about getting an overseas manager that can attract foreign players that are much cheaper. Same as Bournemouth. Wouldn’t surprise me if they go for Corboran, I believe he held talks with Leeds recently and he has history with Wednesday
I think you're mixing up your Corberans with your Carvalhals, so to speak.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:49 pm

Got a raw deal at WBA too-seems a decent guy and liked by his players

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:55 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:42 pm
I think you're mixing up your Corberans with your Carvalhals, so to speak.
I think so but interestingly Carvalhal has been installed as favourite for a return.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by roperclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:03 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:42 pm
I think you're mixing up your Corberans with your Carvalhals, so to speak.
Yes you are right

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by steve1264b » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:05 pm

Barnsley manager might not be moving too far from home

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:06 pm

steve1264b wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:05 pm
Barnsley manager might not be moving too far from home
That really would put the tim hat on it for Barnsley

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:08 pm

Nothing really surprises me I wouldn’t be surprised if pep got sacked, in lots of cases there aren’t pure footballing decisions being executed, more we don’t really know for sure what’s really going on behind the scenes hence being baffled, he could have had an argument with the owner or somebody high up in the hierarchy, any number of reasons.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:32 pm

Awful decision

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:48 pm

Did not see this one coming. Moore has not been ‘found out’ in any of his managerial spells and looks a very solid manager from this distance. I would have thought they’d have been better letting him stabilise them next season at least. Maybe it was contractual differences that couldn’t be resolved.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by distortiondave » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:48 pm

I can almost get my head around foreign owners not knowing anything and still sacking everyone, but to know stuff and still sack someone seems a bit rubbish

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by distortiondave » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:50 pm

Did Darren Moore nearly sign for us. Stan days maybe?

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:00 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:50 pm
Did Darren Moore nearly sign for us. Stan days maybe?
Heath - summer 1997 prior to Heath leaving, he turned us down and signed for Bradford City.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:03 pm

Unbelievable really: sacking success.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Funkydrummer » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:25 pm

We don't know the background, but on the face of it that's a shameful decision.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by beddie » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:16 am

Perhaps he’s another job already lined up.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by martin_p » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:20 am

So 96 points and promotion is now not good enough to hold on to a job. Unless there’s something else behind it this is an astonishingly bad decision.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by The Hung Juror » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:34 am

Awful decision, after the season and the end to the season they had.

You can see some logic/sense to Gary O'Neil's sacking ,but not this.

That's football now, never surprises you.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:24 am

I think the issue is rich people trying to impose corporate logic into a genuinely competitive environment and looking to have clay feet as as a consequence.

The only way to behave like these people in football is to be like Abramovich and spend the most money and buy the best players.

The chairman of Sheffield Wednesday will next year be facing 3 teams with parachute payments of £70 million owning a club with a turnover of £20 million. And of course we are seeing the resignation of local auditors etc.

Best of luck to whoever replaces Darren Moore there are some genuinely big clubs in the Championship next season.

I think Wednesday is a big club with a lot of potential but Bill Foley at Bournemouth is living in cloud cuckoo land.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:18 am

Crazy decision

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Paddy1882 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:35 am

A certain Paul ince now 1/2 on with the bookies for the job. Poor owls.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by daveisaclaret » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:41 am

Ince is odds on because of a Wednesday fan on Twitter who has pretended to be ITK. A lesson for everyone about these markets.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by claretburns » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:42 am

Paddy1882 wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:35 am
A certain Paul ince now 1/2 on with the bookies for the job. Poor owls.
If Ince gets it for me they have gone from potential dark horses for the play offs under Moore to a season of battling relegation under Ince.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by aggi » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:09 am

Does mean they'll get to sign Tom Ince though.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:12 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:41 am
Ince is odds on because of a Wednesday fan on Twitter who has pretended to be ITK. A lesson for everyone about these markets.
I think my favourite tweet about this was along the lines of "If Ince gets the job, anyone joining me on diving on the Titanic?"

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:33 am

Crazy decision to sack Moore, but Paul Ince, they've lost the plot completely.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by depechedingle » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:01 pm

Led to believe it was Moore who instigated leaving after a big fall out over transfer budgets and the Chairman (Chansiri) saying his minimum expectation was top six next season.

They currently only have 14 contracted players, no management team or senior coaching staff and no recruitment staff on the playing side.

Apart from that they are in fine fettle.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:06 pm

Moore could be a good choice for Barnsley.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:21 pm

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:09 am
Does mean they'll get to sign Tom Ince though.
I read a couple of days ago that he was going to Watford

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:21 pm
I read a couple of days ago that he was going to Watford
They sacked him even as they offered him the job 😁
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Re: Darren Moore

Post by claretburns » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:21 pm
I read a couple of days ago that he was going to Watford
Read the same, for £50,000

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by daveisaclaret » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:04 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:06 pm
Moore could be a good choice for Barnsley.
Barnsley are appointing some internal, apparently to save money.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:16 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:04 pm
Barnsley are appointing some internal, apparently to save money.
My Barnsley mate said they’d promote Martin Devanney from the u21s so they can save money on the ‘MD’ branded manager’s kit.
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Re: Darren Moore

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:49 pm

Chansiri has said today that Moore leaving was due to unreasonable contract demands. I wouldn't rush to trust Chansiri but he claims Moore wanted more than 4x his wage for a new deal.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by beddie » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:38 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:49 pm
Chansiri has said today that Moore leaving was due to unreasonable contract demands. I wouldn't rush to trust Chansiri but he claims Moore wanted more than 4x his wage for a new deal.
If that’s true I suppose the question is what was he being paid whilst there. If let’s say he was on £2k per week then £8k per week in the championship is probably about right.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:29 am

Sheff Weds also get about 5m in tv money this season compared to about 500k last season, maybe Moore felt he had earned a pay rise.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by AfloatinClaret » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:29 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:21 pm
I read a couple of days ago that he was going to Watford
So? It's still only June, if Wednesday really want him there's every liklihood that he'll be available again before the season kicks off.

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Re: Darren Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:44 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:29 am
So? It's still only June, if Wednesday really want him there's every liklihood that he'll be available again before the season kicks off.
Tom Ince, who I was referring to on the post you quoted, has already signed for Watford.
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Re: Darren Moore

Post by Spike » Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:14 am

Shocking decision

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