Are there any British managers who have influenced domestic game like Pep ?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:23 pm

All the pundits state he has at times almost revolutionised how the game is played in Britain,especially England, eg playing out from the back, false number 9 ( whatever that is ) etc.
For me the only ones I can think off who have really influenced the game and others have copied are Brian Clough, his style was amazing for the time, his quote of if it was meant to be in the air all the time the ball would have wings, perhaps Clough wasn't copied enough, Shankly and Paisley, possession based and good to watch again not copied enough, also Graham Taylor and his percentage football ie whack it forward to the big/fast guys and see what happens, possibly copied too much so much so he got the England job and set us back years.
Are there more, are these realistic selections ?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:30 pm

Add Busby and Fergie to that list.

And Jimmy Mullen…

Claretmisterg · Post by **Claretmisterg** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:33 pm

The obvious candidate is Sir Alf Ramsey who revolutionised British Football in the 1960s by ditching the 2-3-5 formation and creating the ‘wingless wonders’ who won the World Cup. Every single football league team followed suit. Or so it seemed at the time.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:33 pm

Sean Dyche

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:41 pm

.............

onewillieirvine · Post by **onewillieirvine** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:43 pm

Bill Nicholson.

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:46 pm

Bob Paisley
Jock Stein
Bill Shankly
Alex Fergusson
Matt Busby

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:54 pm

Johnny Madden, just not in the UK

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Pep just uses pre-existing ideas.
Even on most lists Pep isn't number one of most influential managers/coach's

Wasn't there a coach from the Burnley area who went on to do big things in European football because English football was stuck in its ways?

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:01 pm

Jimmy Hogan

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Harry Potts

equinox · Post by **equinox** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:16 pm

There are great managers and there are great coaches.

Pep is both.

claret5 · Post by **claret5** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:19 pm

Chris Waddle

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:41 pm

Herbert Chapman

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:47 pm

I would include Arsene Wenger and Bobby Robson. Robson was apparently a big influence on Mourinho.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:25 pm

Wenger is a good shout, also Mourinho, tedious tactics but when they work you win things, a few managers have copied his approach.

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:32 pm

We played a few clubs last season who still utilised Don Revie's defensive tactics

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:34 pm

Big Sam?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:43 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:47 pm
I would include Arsene Wenger and Bobby Robson. Robson was apparently a big influence on Mourinho.

I should have read my opening post, these two are not British.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:45 pm

I think George Graham influenced Mourinho, 1 nil to the Arsenal and all that meant.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:32 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:43 pm
I should have read my opening post, these two are not British.

Bobby Robson not British?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:38 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:32 pm
Bobby Robson not British?

Wenger and Mourinho, misread the Robson comment, good call he was very influential.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:38 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:32 pm
We played a few clubs last season who still utilised Don Revie's defensive tactics

Don Revie made dirty tricks popular too.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:16 pm

Jimmy Hogan - who played for us too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hogan

His influence was more felt in Europe to begin with, but it was eventually brought to our shores by the Hungarian national team that beat ours 5-2 at Wembley.

ClaretsPadiham · Post by **ClaretsPadiham** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:18 pm

Sol Campbell ?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:56 am

Jimmy Hogan's pass and move game with wingers won us promotion last year.Yet commentors still praise the back passing and sideways slow build up game.

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