Wages at our club

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:33 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:44 pm
Our highest earner in our first PL season was on £65k a week, I had sight of the payroll at the time.
In 2009 ?

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by KellyClaret » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:52 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:18 pm
It would interesting to know how much we earn from worldwide sales of replica shirts, especially so in America with JJ Watt doing his bit to plug them across the pond.
I'd be interested to hear how much you think the club earns per shirt sold.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:09 pm

KellyClaret wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:52 pm
I'd be interested to hear how much you think the club earns per shirt sold.
Why, do you think I know or something?

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by KellyClaret » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:12 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:09 pm
Why, do you think I know or something?
Not at all.

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Re: Wages at our club

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by aggi » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:43 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:33 pm
In 2009 ?
Wasn't this Nugent? I can't remember the exact figures but when Portsmouth went into administration it turned out something like we were paying him half his wages and then paying the other half to Portsmouth who were meant to be paying it to him.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by aggi » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:50 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:18 pm
Shirt sales profits.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/how-muc ... yr0rxqqan5
They're pretty much doubling the figure that Liverpool receive here:

In Liverpool's case, imagine that one million shirts are sold in the 2020-21 season at a cost of £80 each. Twenty per cent of £80 is £16, therefore Liverpool would pocket £16 million from those sales.

The royalty is paid on the wholesale price, not the retail price. Obviously Sports Direct aren't buying shirts at £80 to sell at £80.

In Burnley's case I imagine that the amount of royalty is pretty minimal. We'll have a high advance figure and will rarely breach that. We do have the bonus though that the vast majority of shirts are sold through the club shop so that's actually a decent amount coming through there compared to the usual revenue that clubs receive from selling through Sports Direct or whoever.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by claret2018 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:58 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:33 pm
In 2009 ?
Yes. The top earning 3 or 4 players were on more than Coyle was.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:09 am

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:14 pm
£100m odd wage bill the last few years in the Prem and the guy is worrying about £40k a week :D

Think one or two have been on just a quid or two more than that before son!
Errrrrr...don't call me son. ;)

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:19 am

There is no way anyone at burnley - manager or player - was on £65k a week in 2009. Absolutely no chance.
Don’t know the exact total wage bill but from memory it wasn’t that much more than £20m.
We would not pay 15% of the total wage bill to one player.
In fact £65k a week back in 2009 was the kind of wage some of the very top players were getting. That was the same year the infamous Cashley Cole £55k a week story was from.

I doubt Burnley were paying anyone north of £20k a week.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:24 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:19 am
There is no way anyone at burnley - manager or player - was on £65k a week in 2009. Absolutely no chance.
Don’t know the exact total wage bill but from memory it wasn’t that much more than £20m.
We would not pay 15% of the total wage bill to one player.
In fact £65k a week back in 2009 was the kind of wage some of the very top players were getting. That was the same year the infamous Cashley Cole £55k a week story was from.

I doubt Burnley were paying anyone north of £20k a week.
Wages 2009/10 were £22.372m

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by KellyClaret » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:25 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:19 am
There is no way anyone at burnley - manager or player - was on £65k a week in 2009. Absolutely no chance.
Don’t know the exact total wage bill but from memory it wasn’t that much more than £20m.
We would not pay 15% of the total wage bill to one player.
In fact £65k a week back in 2009 was the kind of wage some of the very top players were getting. That was the same year the infamous Cashley Cole £55k a week story was from.

I doubt Burnley were paying anyone north of £20k a week.
I think you're getting mixed up. The Ashley Cole transfer to Chelsea was in 2006.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:27 am

KellyClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:25 am
I think you're getting mixed up. The Ashley Cole transfer to Chelsea was in 2006.
Yep - sorry. Just saw a quote about the £55k dated 2009.
He signed his new contract in 2009 at Chelsea which increased his salary to more than £100k a week apparently !

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:31 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:27 am
Yep - sorry. Just saw a quote about the £55k dated 2009.
He signed his new contract in 2009 at Chelsea which increased his salary to more than £100k a week apparently !
Those heady days of Oligarch/state owned club funding pre-FFP - look how successful that change has been! :roll:


I will say that the latest iterations of FFP are much closer to what is needed, though they can lock in a status quo if clubs are well run

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by KellyClaret » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:36 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:27 am
Yep - sorry. Just saw a quote about the £55k dated 2009.
He signed his new contract in 2009 at Chelsea which increased his salary to more than £100k a week apparently !
I'm guessing you are using Wikipedia as this make the same error.

There it clearly states his contract was increased to £120k in 2009 - don't know why you phrased it as 'more than £100k'.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:56 am

KellyClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:36 am
I'm guessing you are using Wikipedia as this make the same error.

There it clearly states his contract was increased to £120k in 2009 - don't know why you phrased it as 'more than £100k'.
And I don’t know why you are responding to my posts with meaningless points
Unless you have something useful to add to the actual debate maybe look for someone else to annoy

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by claret2018 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:57 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:19 am
There is no way anyone at burnley - manager or player - was on £65k a week in 2009. Absolutely no chance.
Don’t know the exact total wage bill but from memory it wasn’t that much more than £20m.
We would not pay 15% of the total wage bill to one player.
In fact £65k a week back in 2009 was the kind of wage some of the very top players were getting. That was the same year the infamous Cashley Cole £55k a week story was from.

I doubt Burnley were paying anyone north of £20k a week.

You’re right- I’m thinking of 2014 - Shackell was the top earner on £65k that season in the PL.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:59 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:31 am
Those heady days of Oligarch/state owned club funding pre-FFP - look how successful that change has been! :roll:


I will say that the latest iterations of FFP are much closer to what is needed, though they can lock in a status quo if clubs are well run
Interesting that not much more than a decade ago the monies involved both in terms of tv revenues and wages etc were so different to what they are today.
Look how much the wage bills of the top 6 clubs have increased over this period - it’s mind boggling.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by aggi » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:01 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:19 am
There is no way anyone at burnley - manager or player - was on £65k a week in 2009. Absolutely no chance.
Don’t know the exact total wage bill but from memory it wasn’t that much more than £20m.
We would not pay 15% of the total wage bill to one player.
In fact £65k a week back in 2009 was the kind of wage some of the very top players were getting. That was the same year the infamous Cashley Cole £55k a week story was from.

I doubt Burnley were paying anyone north of £20k a week.
Nugent was definitely earning more than that via us/Portsmouth. The £65k seems high but it was well north of £20k. £40k seems to ring a bell for some reason. Although you could of course argue that we were only paying him £20k a week and the rest was the loan fee.

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Re: Wages at our club

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:31 pm

aggi wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:01 pm
Nugent was definitely earning more than that via us/Portsmouth. The £65k seems high but it was well north of £20k. £40k seems to ring a bell for some reason. Although you could of course argue that we were only paying him £20k a week and the rest was the loan fee.
Would not be surprised given the crazy wages Portsmouth were playing.
It was a loan deal so guess in the scheme of things for whatever that period was (3 or 4 months ?) you are still talking not a massive amount of the overall wage bill. Even at the full £40k a week still only around half a million in total cost to us.
It was well reported that a decade before that Gazza’s deal was £200k wages for an 8 week period. I bet the rest of our team were on a fraction of his weekly wage.

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