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Re: Messi

Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:27 am

Things you love to see. The best of my generation.
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Re: Messi

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:04 am

I read a piece yesterday saying he’s not happy about playing on artificial pitches.
Every team in the league should be getting them laid right now.
Anything to put him off his best. The guys just too good.

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Re: Messi

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:19 am

The best footballer of all time and imo the most gifted sportsman of all time. Will always feel privileged to have witnessed him play.

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Re: Messi

Post by 4midable » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:21 am

By far the greatest player of my generation

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Re: Messi

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:50 am

done it again, 8 minutes into the second game he's scored again. He could probably play in America when he's 45

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Re: Messi

Post by CFS » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:09 am

Up there with Ronaldo but shame he never got to play in the EPL would of been interesting to see how that went.

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Re: Messi

Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:35 am

I only just learnt that he was diagnosed with a growth hormone disorder as a child. Makes his achievements all the more impressive

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Re: Messi

Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:39 am

He won’t have it so easy next game

He’ll be against Westy and Arfield

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Re: Messi

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:53 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:35 am
I only just learnt that he was diagnosed with a growth hormone disorder as a child. Makes his achievements all the more impressive
He moved to Barcelona as they would pay for his treatment
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Re: Messi

Post by Claretmisterg » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:46 am

An incredible talent. Very reminiscent of the great Pele.

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Re: Messi

Post by Pickles » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:46 am

The best ever.

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Re: Messi

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:40 am

Were we expecting anything else, in a league where Bradley Wright Philips was a top goal scorer?

One of the greatest but MLS is a walk in the park, let’s be honest.
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Re: Messi

Post by Raggus » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:41 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:40 am
Were we expecting anything else, in a league where Shaun Wright Philips was a top goal scorer?

One of the greatest but MLS is a walk in the park, let’s be honest.
Bradley

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Re: Messi

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:42 am

Raggus wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:41 am
Bradley
Him too :lol:
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Re: Messi

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:35 am
I only just learnt that he was diagnosed with a growth hormone disorder as a child. Makes his achievements all the more impressive
That was one of the reasons he signed for Barcelona, as a boy. They sorted all that.
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Re: Messi

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:48 am

Most decorated footballer in history, just won his 44th title

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Re: Messi

Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:31 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:48 am
Most decorated footballer in history, just won his 44th title
Unbelievable goal too, regardless of what people believe the standard of football to be in the MLS, when sticking it in the top corner in that fashion, it doesn't matter who is in goal.

Loads has been said about the Messi effect, and having pals Busquets and Jordi Alba knocking around isn't going to harm your chances, but a lot of credit must go to the manager Tata Martino who took over from Phil Neville around the same time as Messi's arrival. He knows the league, the players and following his success with Atlanta United, is continuing his impressive record

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Re: Messi

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:38 am

ClaretFelix wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:31 am
Unbelievable goal too, regardless of what people believe the standard of football to be in the MLS, when sticking it in the top corner in that fashion, it doesn't matter who is in goal.

Loads has been said about the Messi effect, and having pals Busquets and Jordi Alba knocking around isn't going to harm your chances, but a lot of credit must go to the manager Tata Martino who took over from Phil Neville around the same time as Messi's arrival. He knows the league, the players and following his success with Atlanta United, is continuing his impressive record
indeed ! Goal here if anyone is interested
https://twitter.com/Football__Tweet/sta ... 99533?s=20

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Re: Messi

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:02 am

He’s almost at Manuel Benson level

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Re: Messi

Post by 4midable » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:40 am

Best player of all time

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Re: Messi

Post by Sproggy » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:49 am

4midable wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:40 am
Best player of all time
It's a bit early for that - he's only had one good season in the Championship.

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Re: Messi

Post by Lip » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:14 am

Pickles wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:46 am
The best ever.
Who never played in the best league in the World.. Hmm

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Re: Messi

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:24 am

Lip wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:14 am
Who never played in the best league in the World.. Hmm
He played in it for several years. La liga was ahead of the Premier League at that time.

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Re: Messi

Post by NewClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:30 am

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:02 am
He’s almost at Manuel Benson level
Very similar to Bensons goal vs Dundee actually!
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Re: Messi

Post by Rowls » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:36 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:35 am
I only just learnt that he was diagnosed with a growth hormone disorder as a child. Makes his achievements all the more impressive
In no way is the technical ability of Messi under any doubt but part of me wonders if his condition and resulting treatment actually made him the player he is?

He's remarkably strong on the ball.

We're not going to get a conclusive answer and it's merely hypothetical musings.

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Re: Messi

Post by CaptainKirk » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:40 am

Flat track bully.
Not a patch on Ronaldo.

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Re: Messi

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:52 am

Disagree. I could apply your remarks the other way round but I'm just grateful to have witnessed two great players.

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Post by claret2018 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:54 am

Rowls wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:36 am
In no way is the technical ability of Messi under any doubt but part of me wonders if his condition and resulting treatment actually made him the player he is?

He's remarkably strong on the ball.

We're not going to get a conclusive answer and it's merely hypothetical musings.
I’ve always had the same suspicions (based on absolutely nothing).
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Re: Messi

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:02 am

Superb player and like many stars of the age Zlatan/Rooney/Beckham et al he’s wrapping up in the Sunday league esque MLS . A real shame he didn’t play in the EPL /Serie A or similar as he struggled somewhat at PSG. The only modern player who would be something like a George Best if playing in the modern ( superb pitches , fitness ,conditioning etc)

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Re: Messi

Post by willsclarets » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:11 am

CaptainKirk wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:40 am
Flat track bully.
Not a patch on Ronaldo.
If you really think Ronaldo is better than messi, not only are you wrong you have no soul. Ronaldo is a supreme athlete, messi is a pure footballer.
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Re: Messi

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:13 am

Technically nobody comes close other than Maradona

Greatest ever for me, I’m glad he can spend his final years building the game in the US

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Post by No Ney Never » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:35 am

When we debate how some of the greatest players from the past would fare in today's game, Messi would have been great in any era.

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Re: Messi

Post by DCWat » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:42 am

No Ney Never wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:35 am
When we debate how some of the greatest players from the past would fare in today's game, Messi would have been great in any era.
Simply, he’s a genius.

Both he and Ronaldo have been amazing. Both obviously born with an amazing talent but for me, Messi is the most naturally gifted footballer of all time.

Given the choice of watching one or the other, I’d pick Messi each and every time.

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Re: Messi

Post by No Ney Never » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:49 am

DCWat wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:42 am
Simply, he’s a genius.

Both he and Ronaldo have been amazing. Both obviously born with an amazing talent but for me, Messi is the most naturally gifted footballer of all time.

Given the choice of watching one or the other, I’d pick Messi each and every time.
There's footage of Messi when he was a child, he was born with it.
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Re: Messi

Post by DCWat » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:52 am

No Ney Never wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:49 am
There's footage of Messi when he was a child, he was born with it.
Yes, seen a bit of it on the Messi documentary. What he was doing with a football, at such a young age, was ridiculous.

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Re: Messi

Post by claret2018 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:43 pm

Messi undoubtedly the most naturally gifted player of my lifetime, but only ever really did it in Spain where you get time and space to be a silky technical player.

Ronaldo did it in several different leagues and could drag others up around him.

I prefer watching Ronaldo personally

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Re: Messi

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:48 pm

The Messi vs Ronaldo debate is really dumb.

Both unbelievable players, possibly the two greatest ever.

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Re: Messi

Post by Pickles » Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:27 pm

Lip wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:14 am
Who never played in the best league in the World.. Hmm
You mean the Prem right?

He's the best ever. Messi in the 00s/10s would've scored hatfuls in the Prem, he'd still score a fair few now.
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Re: Messi

Post by willsclarets » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:29 am

The pass he played in that 1-2 to score his first league goal was ridiculous.

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Re: Messi

Post by SalouClaret » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:38 am

Lip wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:14 am
Who never played in the best league in the World.. Hmm
I'm sure he scored something like 30 goals in 35 games against English clubs in the Champions League, but sure, he'd definitely struggle against Wolves and Crystal Palace :roll:

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Re: Messi

Post by willsclarets » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:54 am

SalouClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:38 am
I'm sure he scored something like 30 goals in 35 games against English clubs in the Champions League, but sure, he'd definitely struggle against Wolves and Crystal Palace :roll:
Not just his goals either. He would have an absolute hatful of assists. His appreciation of space and his passing are better than most of the best midfielders to ever play the game.

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