Weghorst Reception

[Carwin261]

Sorry ,but I just don’t like the guy ,had mine own business for many years ,I blame him ,and the club , if someone came to me ,and said I want a job with your firm,but if things get tough “I’m on my bike “ I’d have thought no way ,should never have been allowed anywhere near Turf Moor

[Lancasterclaret]

You never booed Brian Laws or chanted Laws Out?

Not during the game, no

Never chanted Laws out either as far as I can remember

Far too annoyed at the board for appointing him

That kind of thing is best left to message boards

[ClaretTony]

Just spoken to someone who was there. He said there was some booing but also support from others. He said nothing like as bad as portrayed on this thread.

Having said that, it just shouldn’t be happening at all.

[Lancasterclaret]

No. People pay their money, they can do what they like. And I wouldn’t use drinking in spoons as an insult.

So you'd be happy with people booing him during the match?

You reckon that, er, freedumb of choice decision will help or hinder the football club we both support win games?

[Lowbankclaret]

Can you show me where he said he was too good for the championship? Which in all fairness going off his career before us he clearly was.
From what us fans know he had verbally agreed with the owners to be allowed to leave if relegated because Holland's manager had refused to pick him for his one and only chance to play at a world cup if he played in the championship, how many others jumped ship immediately without the chance of a world cup place yet we've had discussions about which we'd have back this season
Boils down to this for me is he an upgrade on what we have??
He's better than JRod, Foster and Obafemi so he goes straight in as backup striker to Amdouni he could be the difference between staying up or going down

No he clearly was not better. He scored no goal for Man Utd. Who will create 5 more chances a game than we will.

[Jakubclaret]

Sorry ,but I just don’t like the guy ,had mine own business for many years ,I blame him ,and the club , if someone came to me ,and said I want a job with your firm,but if things get tough “I’m on my bike “ I’d have thought no way ,should never have been allowed anywhere near Turf Moor

In normal circumstances that’s probably the way to go, he held all the aces during the negotiations such was the desperation to replace CW late in the day coupled with the perilous league position.

[forzagranata]

I am sure Tresor or any other player considering a move to Burnley would be mightily impressed hearing our so called support booing and abusing one of their own players.
Why can't folk use some common sense?

Players get booed by fans all over the world. I am pretty sure Mike Tresor will know that.

The guy left us when we were relegated and then, after the lads have done all the graft of getting us back into the Premier League at the first attempt, he swans up like nothing has happened.

Its hardly a shock that he's getting a bit of stick.

[forzagranata]

Not during the game, no

Never chanted Laws out either as far as I can remember

So you just booed him at the end of the game then?

[RVclaret]

Players get booed by fans all over the world. I am pretty sure Mike Tresor will know that.

The guy left us when we were relegated and then, after the lads have done all the graft of getting us back into the Premier League at the first attempt, he swans up like nothing has happened.

Its hardly a shock that he's getting a bit of stick.

‘He swans up like nothing has happened’

Aka

Man returns to work

[123EasyasBFC]

Depends on Jayrod’s fitness situation. Jay wasn’t on the bench. The teamsheet looked light on numbers.

Hadn’t see that Jay wasn’t on the bench, but still you understand my point that Kompany doesn’t seem the type to give someone minutes who he doesn’t have plans for

[Darnhill Claret]

And the other guys that left after we were relegated?

[clarethomer]

Just spoken to someone who was there. He said there was some booing but also support from others. He said nothing like as bad as portrayed on this thread.

Having said that, it just shouldn’t be happening at all.

It shouldn't - just like booing the knee and the all the other things that fans do which are not always aligned to our own thoughts.

The club have to do some serious PR with fans to change how Weghorst is perceived in my opinion.

[Burnley87]

Argued with burnley fans who booed tonight . Blackburn fans boo… we shouldn’t sink to them levels to be successful. Positive energy is key with any football club

[123EasyasBFC]

Just spoken to someone who was there. He said there was some booing but also support from others. He said nothing like as bad as portrayed on this thread.

Having said that, it just shouldn’t be happening at all.

Did the person you spoke to mention anything about drinks being thrown by Burnley fans at the back of the section we were in to the bottom? Poor behaviour from a select few

[Darnhill Claret]

And the other guys that left after we were relegated?

[ClaretTony]

It shouldn't - just like booing the knee and the all the other things that fans do which are not always aligned to our own thoughts.

The club have to do some serious PR with fans to change how Weghorst is perceived in my opinion.

That video they put out showing him arriving at the training ground didn’t help did it? We are not very good with the PR at all. Having said that, this shouldn’t happen.

[Lancasterclaret]

So you just booed him at the end of the game then?

Look, you are imagining every one has your own low standards of how to support a football team

I don't

One, there isn't much point because it changes nothing

Two, I tended to be too disappointing in the dreadful performances we put in under his stewardship (with one or two notable exceptions) to do anything rather than just shrug my shoulders and sigh (bit like Weghorst I suppose)

[boatshed bill]

And the other guys that left after we were relegated?

There is an obvious difference.

[agreenwood]

Hadn’t see that Jay wasn’t on the bench, but still you understand my point that Kompany doesn’t seem the type to give someone minutes who he doesn’t have plans for

Not sure about that. Personally think there’s 3-4 still come in. We might look very different by September.

[Rick_Muller]

I’ll call it out if anyone boos our own players at Turf Moor. Really winds me up that some people can’t support the team. It’s ok to not like players or be disappointed with performances, but actively undermining them during a game is just not on.

[clarethomer]

And the other guys that left after we were relegated?

Which one of them said that they had to leave for their own benefit?

[Lancasterclaret]

Which one of them said that they had to leave for their own benefit?

Oh, so none of them left for their own benefit then?

This argument could get really good

[123EasyasBFC]

Not sure about that. Personally think there’s 3-4 still come in. We might look very different by September.

You might be right, bodies still to come in but in regards to our attacking fluidity I just don’t see kompany sending a player on from the bench he didn’t intend to use. Felt like kompay used today like a league game, making subs like he would in a league game

[RVclaret]

Which one of them said that they had to leave for their own benefit?

Ben Mee came out in a podcast and basically said that.

[agreenwood]

You might be right, bodies still to come in but in regards to our attacking fluidity I just don’t see kompany sending a player on from the bench he didn’t intend to use. Felt like kompay used today like a league game, making subs like he would in a league game

Maybe, but we didn’t have another out and out striker on the bench and 80 mins for Foster might have been his current limit.
Plus, if you’re trying to sell someone, it might not do any harm not to make it look like he’s been completely frozen out or you look more desperate to accept a low fee.

I’ve honestly no idea. Just not sure today tells us anything.

If he features in the next 3-4 preseason games, then I’ll start to think we might see him this season.

[Darnhill Claret]

Weghorst spoke the truth. Others kept quiet. Honesty pays, or does it?

[boatshed bill]

As I see it we would have sold Wout like we sold Cornet and the others.
All the players who left did so because they were seeking better than Championship football.

[Rileybobs]

Who can forget that deserter Nick Pope.

[Pickles]

That video they put out showing him arriving at the training ground didn’t help did it? We are not very good with the PR at all. Having said that, this shouldn’t happen.

I agree re that video. Good idea but once the footage was what it was then did it need to go up? Benefit of doubt to Weghorst, he was just arriving and had a camera put in his face.

[forzagranata]

Maybe, but we didn’t have another out and out striker on the bench and 80 mins for Foster might have been his current limit.
Plus, if you’re trying to sell someone, it might not do any harm not to make it look like he’s been completely frozen out or you look more desperate to accept a low fee.

I’ve honestly no idea. Just not sure today tells us anything.

If he features in the next 3-4 preseason games, then I’ll start to think we might see him this season.

Indeed.

Plus it can't be a 'meaningless friendly' apart from one sub decision which is apparently deep with meaning and significance.....

[Bin Ont Turf]

Good grief, what an embarrassing thread. The Tony Blair children are out in force.

How many Burnley fans were there? A few tranny vans full.

[Darnhill Claret]

We'll only get low bids now. A couple of million knocked off his transfer value at a stroke. Saudi Arabia need to come calling now.

[fidelcastro]

Who can forget that deserter Nick Pope.

I still haven't forgiven that traitor Ings.

[fidelcastro]

How many Burnley fans were there? A few tranny vans full.

Yes. We're very inclusive these days.

[clarethomer]

That video they put out showing him arriving at the training ground didn’t help did it? We are not very good with the PR at all. Having said that, this shouldn’t happen.

It wasn't a good video for building bridges and booing a player shouldn't happen either.

However, I can imagine the fans that have travelled all that way, despite what is being made out by others, was to boo a player in our shirt. Our strength has been our connection to the players and the effort and commitment they make to playing for the club and the town.

Weghorst has simply been allowed to come across as a mercenary who was too good for us last season and is now coming back when he can't get a better offer.

It's not a straightforward as just forgiving and forgetting. Its about the player demonstrating alignment with the culture and ethos of the team. We support hard work and players who want to play for the club and be successful in the team.

What has anyone seen that says this is what Weghorst wants to do? He is just interested in himself.

The last thing we need is that lack of connection between the team and the supporters though. Time for the PR team to work on this before the seasons starts I hope. Time for Weghorst to decide what he wants too.

[clarethomer]

Oh, so none of them left for their own benefit then?

This argument could get really good

So are you going to answer my question - which one of them came out and said it?

[Lancasterclaret]

So are you going to answer my question - which one of them came out and said it?

One told the truth and the others didn't

Do you think Nick Pope would have been in the England squad if he's stayed?

[clarethomer]

One told the truth and the others didn't

Do you think Nick Pope would have been in the England squad if he's stayed?

So none. Thank you.

[roperclaret]

It’s your opinion & however you want to express it that’s fine, I’m far too thick skinned it’s water off a ducks back what you think.
If people want to boo WW that’s fine in my book, it’s up to WW to now redeem himself & let his football do the talking & shut some people up, I understand why people are booing him despite not fully agreeing with their actions.

That’s what they were singing at him though.

[Darnhill Claret]

Well Weghorst said he did it to protect his World Cup chances. Why should anyone have a problem with that?

[Lancasterclaret]

So none. Thank you.

Yes, you've won this argument completely 100%

[clarethomer]

Yes, you've won this argument completely 100%

Who is arguing?

[Carwin261]

And the other guys that left after we were relegated?

Mee,was loved by the fans ,and could have gone down the M65 ,and still been a hero
Tarks said he was running his contract down ,and battled right up to the end
Cornet,Collins,& McNeil went for big money,and the club couldn’t refuse it ,
Weghorst was a mercenary ,and still is.

[Lancasterclaret]

Who is arguing?

No one

I mean, no one is going to argue that players left BFC for the benefit of their own careers but because one actually said it, he's the one we should single out

Career choice end of the day

[boatshed bill]

I'm sure the sale of most, if not all of them, benefited both club and players at the time.

[Lancasterclaret]

Mee,was loved by the fans ,and could have gone down the M65 ,and still been a hero

Steady on!

[forzagranata]

No one

I mean, no one is going to argue that players left BFC for the benefit of their own careers but because one actually said it, he's the one we should single out

Career choice end of the day

No one would have had a problem if Weghorst had left and been sold to another club.

But he wasn't good enough to attract a satisfactory offer - went off for year's loan to Besiktas - and then left them in the lurch to sign for United, where he also failed to impress and was unwanted.

Now that Burnley have won promotion back to the Premier League - due to the efforts of others - he turns up to pick up his Premier League wages from us again.

How on earth that is comparable to Ben Mee giving a decade of outstanding service but not being offered the deal he wanted and going to Brentford, or Pope signing for Newcastle, is beyond me.

[CoolClaret]

Super embarrassing and gives off major ‘jealous ex’ vibes.

Some blokes really need to grow up.

[TsarBomba]

Left Wolfsburg under a cloud because of his stance on covid vaccinations, and was known to be a trouble maker there.

Despite being only second behind Lewandowski in the scoring charts for a number of years, ZERO clubs were interested.

We needed a goalscorer and Weghorst was desperate to save his WC chances, so suited both parties at the time. Only came on the proviso that he wouldn’t drop to the Championship, and in desperation we agreed.

Incident after the Watford game.

Spat with Roberts.

Number of articles in the Athletic that when he was here he was arrogant and talked down to fellow players.

Like it or not, he’s a divisive character, and that’s proven to be the case at Wolfsburg and now here.

His arrogance has shone through on a number of occasions. He thinks he better than the club, or did, and he thought in his first stint he was better than his fellow players.

I don’t agree with the booing/abuse but it’s hardly a surprise.

Weghorst being here risks the harmony and togetherness we have built over the past 12 months.

Get rid.

[Jakubclaret]

That’s what they were singing at him though.

That's unacceptable, i kind of understand people booing him but I don't agree with anything further than that, if WW want's some of a future & to be universally accepted there's only 1 way of doing it that's by applying effort, if it isn't already past that point.