Tim Bobbin

[4midable]

Opening back up?

Work being done on it today

[Quickenthetempo]

Someone mentioned they have been working on the TB a couple of weeks, on the FB post for Inn on the Wharf.

[ŽižkovClaret]

How come it shut? did someone use their f'ing mobile?

[Alanstevensonsgloves]

Sounds like a copy / paste of The Greyhound (Sam Smiths) in Altham. Just had a full refurb when landlord was caught on his mobile I heard. Pub was swiftly shut 'temporarily.' That was in 2018.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... -managers/

[agreenwood]

Sam Smith’s is a bizarre brewery. It’s almost as if they’ve no interest in making money.

There are/were two near me. One is always dead and seems intent on only catering to about three locals and a dog. Another is in a great location, but has been shut for about 5 years - Sam Smith’s continue to own the building.

Joe Lycett did an amusing piece on them a few years back..

https://youtu.be/-oDZB-ZyvTE

[BurnleyFC]

The whole ‘you can’t use your mobile’ must be a big publicity stunt they’re just playing up to.

Either that or old Humphrey is a complete nut job.

[ŽižkovClaret]

The whole ‘you can’t use your mobile’ must be a big publicity stunt they’re just playing up to.

Either that or old Humphrey is a complete nut job.

Well it aint the 1st

[Burnley1989]

Cant see it making a do, its struggled whenever its been open for as long as I can remember.
I think the sort of atmosphere they want in Sam Smith pubs (silence) isn't really the atmosphere the majority of folk want when they go out with mates for an evening, plus the beer choices aren't very good. I just find the places very depressing.

[Burnley1989]

The whole ‘you can’t use your mobile’ must be a big publicity stunt they’re just playing up to.

Either that or old Humphrey is a complete nut job.

I was once in on my own and had my phone out to check the football scores, I was told almost straight away that it wasn't allowed. I also thought it was a publicity stunt but perhaps not.

[4midable]

I was once in on my own and had my phone out to check the football scores, I was told almost straight away that it wasn't allowed. I also thought it was a publicity stunt but perhaps not.

Just tell them where to go whilst there. Imagine trying to stop some1 using their phone

[ChrisG]

Just tell them where to go whilst there. Imagine trying to stop some1 using their phone

Two things here, firstly if you refuse you'll be barred.

Secondly, it's not the managers who make the rules, it's the owner of the brewery. He's sacked loads of managers on the spot if the rules are broken, no matter how insignificant they may seem.

[IPAclaret]

Burnley1989 [/quote]
Cant see it making a do, its struggled whenever its been open for as long as I can remember.

Not correct. I was a regular a few years back and it was always a really busy pub. Large catchment area, very little competition nearby etc. Having said that, it might now struggle to get back to what it was. Owner does appear to be a strange character though, no doubt about that.

[ElectroClaret]

Sounds like a copy / paste of The Greyhound (Sam Smiths) in Altham. Just had a full refurb when landlord was caught on his mobile I heard. Pub was swiftly shut 'temporarily.' That was in 2018.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... -managers/

I live just around the corner from the Greyhound, it's a great shame it's closed. Lovely building.
Insane business model by the rather eccentric (allegedly) owner.

[basil6345789]

No mobiles, no swearing - good rules methinks

[Rowls]

No mobiles, no swearing - good rules methinks

I happen to agree.

Essential:
Good beer
Clean

Preferable
Cheap/reasonable
Well decorated
Comfortable
Friendly staff
Friendly clientele
No Swearing
No mobiles
No loud music

[ChrisG]

I happen to agree.

Essential:
Good beer
Clean

Preferable
Cheap/reasonable
Well decorated
Comfortable
Friendly staff
Friendly clientele
No Swearing
No mobiles
No loud music

The problem is they fall down on a lot of those other qualities, particularly the good beer. Exception being their bottled Chocolate Stout and Yorkshire Stigo.

[Jakubclaret]

Two things here, firstly if you refuse you'll be barred.

Secondly, it's not the managers who make the rules, it's the owner of the brewery. He's sacked loads of managers on the spot if the rules are broken, no matter how insignificant they may seem.

I got warned in bispham hotel which is a Sam Smith's establishment I wasn't aware of the rules, I actually thought the barman was joking when he asked me to put my phone away, it's a very strict policy & he is known to appear unannounced checking the policy is adhered to.

[Burnley1989]

No mobiles, no swearing - good rules methinks

They may be good rules but not in working class town pubs around Gannow

[durhamclaret]

My local, also a Sam Smiths house has been closed for 2 years, workmen have been busy for a couple of months doing it up, externally and internally, word on the street is that there are no plans for reopening, strange bloke that Humphrey Smith all right.

[Clovius Boofus]

Are their pubs still cash-only? I'm only asking out of curiosity. I usually avoid them because I'm not a fan of their beer.

Also, the phone rule is bizarre. I can just about understand them having a rule about making noisy phone calls inside their pubs, but using your phone to read something online while you're waiting for someone? That's bonkers because it's not harming anyone. Anyway, plenty of other pub chains crying out for our business.

[Clovius Boofus]

My local, also a Sam Smiths house has been closed for 2 years, workmen have been busy for a couple of months doing it up, externally and internally, word on the street is that there are no plans for reopening, strange bloke that Humphrey Smith all right.

I wonder if they struggle to get people to run their pubs? It's a hard enough job without having to enforce utterly pointless rules or face dismissal and being booted out of your home.

[dougcollins]

There's only one Tim Bobbin outside Burnley, situated at Clapham Common. Many years ago I went in for Sunday breakfast, and the Dalai Lama was sat reading the Sunday Times.

[Jakubclaret]

I wonder if they struggle to get people to run their pubs? It's a hard enough job without having to enforce utterly pointless rules or face dismissal and being booted out of your home.

To be honest most people will comply & won't kick a fuss up if it's a problem you leave or finish your drink, some people actually like the rules & will always go in, the barman was polite enough with me & explained the reasoning which I fully understood & complied with.

[Lord Beamish]

I happen to agree.

Essential:
Good beer
Clean

Preferable
Cheap/reasonable
Well decorated
Comfortable
Friendly staff
Friendly clientele
No Swearing
No mobiles
No loud music

Not often this happens, but I’m in full agreement with Rowls.

There is a place in the market for Sam Smith’s Pubs.
I’ve been to loads up and down the country.
The Bobbin is just around the corner from where my folks still live and, when it was open, I’d usually pop in for one when I was visiting them.
I actually quite enjoyed putting my phone away for the duration and having a chat with some of the regulars.
The refurb they did in there a few years back made it a very pleasant environment to do this in.
I’ll be glad if it does reopen. It’s a good boozer.

[LeadBelly]

There's only one Tim Bobbin outside Burnley, situated at Clapham Common. Many years ago I went in for Sunday breakfast, and the Dalai Lama was sat reading the Sunday Times.

When I was growing up and heard people talk of this Burnley pub I had in down for the Tin Bobbin, It was only when I passed it aged about 11 that I discovered its real name. At the time I never wondered why it was so named.

It may be widely known around Gannow but I've only fairly recently come across the works of said caricaturist (aka the "Lancashire Hogarth") whose real name was John Collier.
(Not to be confused with John Collier, John Collier - the window to watch).

RE the phone policy - I dont like loud music in pubs/ people having loud phone conversations but not allowing you to check your phone to arrange a rendezvous/ check sports scores etc seems far too prohibitive.

[Lord Beamish]

There's only one Tim Bobbin outside Burnley, situated at Clapham Common. Many years ago I went in for Sunday breakfast, and the Dalai Lama was sat reading the Sunday Times.

That’s not true. There’s a Tim Bobbin in Milnrow, where John Collier used to live, and also a Wetherspoon called the Tim Bobbin in Urmston, where he was born.

[GetIntoEm]

i wonder how Sinclairs in manchester circumvents the rules, probably due to the amount of income it makes.

i've never had a problem using my phone in there.

also during good weather, sporting events etc.. its full of people having a whale of a time, swearing, dancing, singing, even heaven forbid checking their phones

[yatesybase]

There's only one Tim Bobbin outside Burnley, situated at Clapham Common. Many years ago I went in for Sunday breakfast, and the Dalai Lama was sat reading the Sunday Times.

There also a Tim Bobbin Milnrow, Rochdale and isn't a Samuel Smiths Pub.

[Leon_C]

I’m in a Sam Smiths pub in London right now.
Pint of Taddy for £6.60 and I’m happily using my phone to write this, albeit outside. Staff currently ignoring all phone use… maybe this is rogue branch!

[sjb]

There's only one Tim Bobbin outside Burnley, situated at Clapham Common. Many years ago I went in for Sunday breakfast, and the Dalai Lama was sat reading the Sunday Times.

I used to work in a pizza place. The Dalai Lama came in one day & asked me to make him one with everything.

[Leon_C]

I used to work in a pizza place. The Dalai Lama came in one day & asked me to make him one with everything.

If the Dalai Lama asked for everything, I’d question whether he meant literally the sum of all existence, or maybe just the ham mushrooms and pepperoni.

[ClaretsPadiham]

There’s a Tim Bobbin near Rochdale on way to Hollingworth Lake.

[yTib]

There’s a Tim Bobbin near Rochdale on way to Hollingworth Lake.

literally the third person to say this.

do folk not bother to read the threads?

[Gaia]

The no mobile rule seems ridiculous to me. It's like they are trying to turn back time. Do they allow you to read a newspaper? What's the difference between reading a physical newspaper or one on your phone?

[Lord Beamish]

I used to work in a pizza place. The Dalai Lama came in one day & asked me to make him one with everything.

The Pizza was £10, and the Dalai Lama gave you a £20 note. You took it, put it in the till, and served the next customer. When he asked where his tenner was, you told him that change must come from within.

[Rowls]

The no mobile rule seems ridiculous to me. It's like they are trying to turn back time. Do they allow you to read a newspaper? What's the difference between reading a physical newspaper or one on your phone?

A newspaper requires a much higher level of concentration and effort
Adverts in newspapers don't "pop up", play music, require closing or use video to distract you from what you are reading
Newspapers don't make a noises like phones
A newspaper won't prompt you to read different article when you're half way through one
Newspapers don't track your location or take and share data on what you're reading
Newspapers can be shared around a pub - you don't need a code or biometrics to unlock one
Newspapers don't prompt you to check your social media once you've finished reading them
Traditional newspapers have strong editorial processes

Massive psychological difference between reading a real newspaper and reading news on your phone.

[Gaia]

Fair points Rowls bit the sale of physical newspapers has dwindled in the last 15 years or so. Without the online versions most newspapers would.go bankrupt.

[Rowls]

Fair points Rowls bit the sale of physical newspapers has dwindled in the last 15 years or so. Without the online versions most newspapers would.go bankrupt.

Yes, there's a place for digital media and it has its benefits.

But, generally speaking, people truly don't understand the how much interactive media on our phones is influencing us and manipulating our behaviours.

Interestingly, the UN has recently begun a campaign to have mobile phones banned from schools because of the negative impact they have on concentration and learning.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/07/11 ... 20learning.

[turbo5]

I was brought up around the Bobbin area . Started drinking there in the 80's pre-mobile phones . two rooms. the tap room and the Lounge. Over in the corner next to the window they called it the funeral parlour.
My old man like many of his era would go out for a few scoops around 9pm and stay until last orders nearly every night of the week. He would take my mum out Friday Saturday and Sunday up Mullards or Ighten mount and start in the bobbin. They had friends who used the pub it was a place to meet your friends
Generation after generation of young lads & lasses would use the tap room, It was always a busy pub a real centre of community feel to it. Meet up at the Bobbin then take a cab or bus into town and sometimes go back for last orders.

I never liked the refurb , all wood no soft furnishing too many little rooms it completely lost its character. It was more comfortable sitting on a park bench. It wasn't a gastro pub so not a place to go for something to eat with the family for a meal
Times have moved on , we have become addicted to our phones, going to the pub isn't just about drinking one brand of beer. They want choices of alcoholic drinks ,entertainment, good food, freedom for phones games, TV sport sport etc I can't see it making a do with those draconic measures. times have moved on from the days when people went to the pub everynight. I understand he is trying to create a niche market and a brand that spells out tradition. However nostalgia only carries it so far, it needs drinkers, not once a year pub goers.

[roperclaret]

My nearest Pub growing up.

[4midable]

Making it look pretty outside today
Any1 know an opening date

[claret2018]

The Petre Arms at Langho has been closed since 2017 with no sign of reopening. Sam smiths don’t seem to have a problem with sitting on a load of property that’s making them no money.

As for Sam Smiths pubs, they’re like Wetherspoons in that they serve a purpose in keeping the oddballs out of the decent boozers

[Clarky]

It's not just mobiles, includes TVs, music, pool tables and anything other than talking!!

[Clarky]

It's not just mobiles, includes TVs, music, pool tables and anything other than talking to someone!!

[Clarky]

Even if you repeat yourself

[turbo5]

When it reopens , I will order a pint of beer and ask for the wifi code

[Dazzler]

Making it look pretty outside today
Any1 know an opening date

I heard last night that it's opening up in about a fortnight.

[Rowls]

I'm looking forward to a pint and some good conversation in the Tim Bobbin.

Sam Smith's is a half decent beer when it's kept well but the price is always good.

[AmbleClaret]

The Petre Arms at Langho has been closed since 2017 with no sign of reopening. Sam smiths don’t seem to have a problem with sitting on a load of property that’s making them no money.

As for Sam Smiths pubs, they’re like Wetherspoons in that they serve a purpose in keeping the oddballs out of the decent boozers

Used to be one of my favourites, the Petre. I did get politely told to put my mobile away once,when I looked at it for the time whilst being served.

[lesxdp]

I don't have any knowledge of what is happening, but when they painted the window frames they I think have put two additional adverts in the windows advertising for a couple to run it.