Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

[martin_p]

This is the view they chose to show…

No, that’s the half a second you’ve chosen to show out of about 30 seconds.

[Lancasterclaret]

So far we’ve had this programme slated when it was first announced for potential Mormon evangelism, and now for a perceived negative portrayal of the town now we know its launch date.

All without anyone having seen an episode.

Tune in on the broadcast date for four pages slagging off the theme tune and font used in the titles.

Well, it is the Hovis advert tune.....

[Clovius Boofus]

So far we’ve had this programme slated when it was first announced for potential Mormon evangelism, and now for a perceived negative portrayal of the town now we know its launch date.

Nothing surprise me regarding the miserabilists and their love of negativity. Only the other day, Alan Pace's daughter got some stick for making a family travel vlog of their Belgium trip.

[Big Vinny K]

Personally I’m looking forward to it immensely and have been ever since I heard about it.
Not sure how anybody can see anything negative about it - look at the season they chose to film it !! They’d have been hard pressed to pick a better season in the last 50 years !!

Compare this to the Sunderland documentary - big club with a great history and whilst that series was a good watch for the outsider it must have been a complete embarrassment as a Sunderland fan to see your club in that state. And those poor souls had to put up with 2 seasons of fly on the wall documentaries showing their club in an utter mess off the field and struggling on it.

[Sutton-Claret]

Bugger...... I go on holiday on the 9th

[Carwin261]

Just to add little more,Neil Sharp showed around 20 of us round Barnfield today ,since the Americans took over they brought a load of young guys over from the States ,& they’re overall impression was that couldn’t believe how fantastic Gawthorpe ,& it’s surroundings were compared to the images they’d seen of Burnley back home.

[Carwin261]

Just another add to my Gawthorpe visit ( name dropping) Fabrice Muamba has joined the staff ,but I don’t know in what capacity.

[NottsClaret]

This is the view they chose to show…

What's wrong with it? I imagine most of us have lived on a terraced street just like that at some point in East Lancashire. I did for years and have absolutely zero embarrassment about it, it was a good place to live.

[Bosscat]

Just another add to my Gawthorpe visit ( name dropping) Fabrice Muamba has joined the staff ,but I don’t know in what capacity.

Thought he was at Sheff Utd doing something his twitter feed showing Bramall Lane and on about ready for Palace on 12th of August

[Carwin261]

Thought he was at Sheff Utd doing something his twitter feed showing Bramall Lane and on about ready for Palace on 12th of August

It was from the guy who showed us round Barnfield no reason to doubt him.

[yTib]

it could have been worse - they could've shown clips from this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M7LeJv ... nel=ESClad

[Bosscat]

It was from the guy who showed us round Barnfield no reason to doubt him.

Not doubting you Carwin but heres his twitter acc

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[Carwin261]

Not doubting you Carwin but heres his twitter acc Screenshot_20230727_190449_Chrome.jpg

Very Strange ,he happen hasn’t given his notice in yet.

[Carwin261]

Just seen a guy called Simon Lee Abbot that does a rap type video of Burnley ,a little bit of everything to suit everyone ,hopefully ,sorry I can’t link it.

[gandhisflipflop]

You started it. I'm not letting your crap go unchallenged.

Give it a rest Eddie

[Claretforever]

What's wrong with it? I imagine most of us have lived on a terraced street just like that at some point in East Lancashire. I did for years and have absolutely zero embarrassment about it, it was a good place to live.

It’s not the fact that it’s normal(ish) for Burnley, it’s the fact that the media are lazy at best.

Terraced house (check)
Back street (check)
Bins/sofas/rubbish on back street (check)
Chimneys (surprising missing this time).

I’m not embarrassed about our town, I’m proud. It’s about representing our town to the world in the right manner to help improve the club, and fairly representing the whole place. There are plenty of other types of houses, even better terraced housing and areas. These credits are lazy at best, purposely created at worst.

Sunderland had their catchy theme tune about the docks. We’ve got old terraced houses and pretty dirty backstreets on bin day. The fact our own fans accept it as though it’s okay is becoming less surprising. We’ve got a kind of Stockholm syndrome because of so many decades of put downs.

There are some lovely areas of Burnley, and some beautiful views (a few examples below). Why not choose those? Hard work or doesn’t tick the stereotype box?

I’m sure the show will be good, but the opening sequence is irritating.

[Carwin261]

Don’t be showing picturesque photos of our beloved Burnley ,you’ll be called a snob,& possibly a traitor to your roots ,might get a drone up tommorow,and see if I can get The Turf ,Queens Park,and Towneley Hall in one shot ,might have to do some photo shopping though ,apparently there’s no green grass within 50 miles of Turf Moor.

[Nori1958]

It’s not the fact that it’s normal(ish) for Burnley, it’s the fact that the media are lazy at best.

Terraced house (check)
Back street (check)
Bins/sofas/rubbish on back street (check)
Chimneys (surprising missing this time).

I’m not embarrassed about our town, I’m proud. It’s about representing our town to the world in the right manner to help improve the club, and fairly representing the whole place. There are plenty of other types of houses, even better terraced housing and areas. These credits are lazy at best, purposely created at worst.

Sunderland had their catchy theme tune about the docks. We’ve got old terraced houses and pretty dirty backstreets on bin day. The fact our own fans accept it as though it’s okay is becoming less surprising. We’ve got a kind of Stockholm syndrome because of so many decades of put downs.

There are some lovely areas of Burnley, and some beautiful views (a few examples below). Why not choose those? Hard work or doesn’t tick the stereotype box?

I’m sure the show will be good, but the opening sequence is irritating.

Lovely pictures, but the football club\ground isn't on any of them, and that's what the programe is about

[Claretforever]

Lovely pictures, but the football club\ground isn't on any of them, and that's what the programe is about

Thanks, but they were only a few random examples. Oh, and the football ground is in the bottom right picture. It’s also in the top right but you’d have to look very closely.

And it’s not about not showing the football ground, it’s about replacing the lazy stereotypical shots with those that show the town off better. The back street with bins on it doesn’t have the football ground in it, for example.

[Nori1958]

Thanks, but they were only a few random examples. Oh, and the football ground is in the bottom right picture. It’s also in the top right but you’d have to look very closely.

And it’s not about not showing the football ground, it’s about replacing the lazy stereotypical shots with those that show the town off better. The back street with bins on it doesn’t have the football ground in it, for example.

The back street is a half second shot of a video taken around the ground. I agree there are some lovely areas of Burnley, but the area around turf moor isn't one of them. If we had a shiny new ground out in the countryside,and they still showed the back streets then yes, it would be wrong. But how many people want our ground moving?

[mdd2]

I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of derelict cotton mills;

Sadly that is where we ended up in the 60's 70's and have created a lot of industry but even the newer ones that came in Belling Michelin Lucas Prestige came and went. Been away save for matches for many a year so no idea to what extent there has been any genuine sustained investment in skilled jobs

[Claretforever]

The back street is a half second shot of a video taken around the ground. I agree there are some lovely areas of Burnley, but the area around turf moor isn't one of them. If we had a shiny new ground out in the countryside,and they still showed the back streets then yes, it would be wrong. But how many people want our ground moving?

No comment about the ground being in the shots. These other images I shared only needed to be 1/2 second shots too.

As soon as images are shown of anything but the football ground then it becomes about the town and its people, the wider community. We don’t all live in the terraced houses 150 yards from the centre circle. Bin day is once every two weeks on those streets. It’s been done purposely!

Why are our fans so accepting of sly digs from the media? The club are trying to appeal to wider audiences.

I watched the Spurs documentary, and funnily enough they didn’t show the delights of Harringay in the credits. They showed a super shot of the stadium and then player footage from today and yesteryear.

The Man City documentary didn’t show Moss Side where they were based, it’s player footage and a great stadium shot.

The Arsenal documentary is player and club footage, plus another great night time stadium shot showing the aerial view of London.

[Nori1958]

No comment about the ground being in the shots. These other images I shared only needed to be 1/2 second shots too.

As soon as images are shown of anything but the football ground then it becomes about the town and its people, the wider community. We don’t all live in the terraced houses 150 yards from the centre circle. Bin day is once every two weeks on those streets. It’s been done purposely!

Why are our fans so accepting of sly digs from the media? The club are trying to appeal to wider audiences.

I watched the Spurs documentary, and funnily enough they didn’t show the delights of Harringay in the credits. They showed a super shot of the stadium and then player footage from today and yesteryear.

The Man City documentary didn’t show Moss Side where they were based, it’s player footage and a great stadium shot.

The Arsenal documentary is player and club footage, plus another great night time stadium shot showing the aerial view of London.

City play in moss side?

[Claretforever]

City play in moss side?

Look, I know you missed the images of the Turf in the ones I shared further up, but I did type out “where they were based.” Man City weren’t formed this century. It’s a huge part of their history. I could have stated bin day around Openshaw or Longsight. Either way they didn’t show it because it’s not a good look.

[wilks_bfc]

People are reading an awful lot in to what was shown in a 30 trailer, that may or may not even be featured in the final documentary

[Pickles]

Terraced streets and chimneys are the defining architecture of a town like Burnley. Shock horror, they'll be in a TV show about Burnley.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Terraced streets and chimneys are the defining architecture of a town like Burnley. Shock horror, they'll be in a TV show about Burnley.

It may not be a huge leap to imagine the ones moaning about a brief trailer, will moan about the programme once it has aired also.

[Claretforever]

Terraced streets and chimneys are the defining architecture of a town like Burnley. Shock horror, they'll be in a TV show about Burnley.

I think you are ever so slightly missing the point being made by myself and several others. Nobody is bothered about a few images of terraced streets or chimneys, it’s just that there never seems to be a mixture of images. And they purposely show some of the worst they can find.

I think it harms the town more than does it good personally. If you think those images help sell the club and brand, which seems to be the strategy, then fair enough, everyone has their own opinion.

[martin_p]

No comment about the ground being in the shots. These other images I shared only needed to be 1/2 second shots too.

As soon as images are shown of anything but the football ground then it becomes about the town and its people, the wider community. We don’t all live in the terraced houses 150 yards from the centre circle. Bin day is once every two weeks on those streets. It’s been done purposely!

Why are our fans so accepting of sly digs from the media? The club are trying to appeal to wider audiences.

I watched the Spurs documentary, and funnily enough they didn’t show the delights of Harringay in the credits. They showed a super shot of the stadium and then player footage from today and yesteryear.

The Man City documentary didn’t show Moss Side where they were based, it’s player footage and a great stadium shot.

The Arsenal documentary is player and club footage, plus another great night time stadium shot showing the aerial view of London.

But the images aren’t supposed to be about the ‘wider community’ they are supposed to show the big mural they’ve commissioned on a street leading to the ground. These are interspersed with shots of the outside of the Turf and the inside on a match day just like you’d expect.

[Claretforever]

But the images aren’t supposed to be about the ‘wider community’ they are supposed to show the big mural they’ve commissioned on a street leading to the ground. These are interspersed with shots of the outside of the Turf and the inside on a match day just like you’d expect.

What has the backstreet shot on bin day got to do with the mural or the football club?

By the way, I’m sure the documentary will be great, I just think they could’ve taken a little more care with the images.

[Nori1958]

Look, I know you missed the images of the Turf in the ones I shared further up, but I did type out “where they were based.” Man City weren’t formed this century. It’s a huge part of their history. I could have stated bin day around Openshaw or Longsight. Either way they didn’t show it because it’s not a good look.

But city's ground is nowhere near moss side, so why should they show it...just a daft point you were trying to make. They showed the area immediately around the ground, which is what they've done in the very short Burnley video

[daveisaclaret]

Can't believe they would show Burnley in the Burnley documentary. Should have shown Manchester or Leeds.

[aggi]

It’s not the fact that it’s normal(ish) for Burnley, it’s the fact that the media are lazy at best.

Terraced house (check)
Back street (check)
Bins/sofas/rubbish on back street (check)
Chimneys (surprising missing this time).

I’m not embarrassed about our town, I’m proud. It’s about representing our town to the world in the right manner to help improve the club, and fairly representing the whole place. There are plenty of other types of houses, even better terraced housing and areas. These credits are lazy at best, purposely created at worst.

Sunderland had their catchy theme tune about the docks. We’ve got old terraced houses and pretty dirty backstreets on bin day. The fact our own fans accept it as though it’s okay is becoming less surprising. We’ve got a kind of Stockholm syndrome because of so many decades of put downs.

There are some lovely areas of Burnley, and some beautiful views (a few examples below). Why not choose those? Hard work or doesn’t tick the stereotype box?

I’m sure the show will be good, but the opening sequence is irritating.

Am I the only one that can't see sofas or rubbish (other than in bins) on this back street?

[Clovius Boofus]

What I can't believe is that some people are still wetting themselves over this 30-second video clip. Overemotional or what.

Maybe some of our more excitable posters think that Turf Moor is in the middle of Towneley Park or on top of Crown Point, and not across the road from streets of terraced housing.

[Rileybobs]

Seems quite a few people are embarrassed about being from Burnley.

[Claretforever]

Am I the only one that can't see sofas or rubbish (other than in bins) on this back street?

I was just offering the usual checklist, Aggi. They got the backstreet but used the bins rather than settee.

No embarrassment from me, Riley, you’re probably seeing it from the wrong angle. I’m proud as punch, as will the others be who have commented on it, and there have been quite a few online. That’s why I’m defensive of it rather than just accepting the mediocre job with a clear motive.

[Winstonswhite]

Get a grip man

[Claretforever]

Get a grip man

Alright, calm down. Geez, it’s just a few comments with opinions on a message board. People are hardly writing to the club, boycotting Sky or picketing.

[Eloise Laws]

Maybe it was bin collection day when the photo was taken….there’s not always back streets full of bins.

[yTib]

i don't think i've ever seen a piece on the telly about the club and its relationship with the town that didn't show back streets and rows of terraced housing.

i agree it's a lazy way to represent the place and that is the point that seems to have gone above the heads of rather a few on here.

but no-one likes us. we don't care.

[Walton]

If the messageboard went into meltdown over an image of a backstreet a goalkick away from the Turf, imagine what it'll do when they realise the documentary is 50/50 football and religion.

[Rileybobs]

I hope they don’t misrepresent Mormonism by showing people worshipping in church.

[Clovius Boofus]

but no-one likes us. we don't care.

Judging by this thread, it's the total opposite. Oversensitive doesn't even come into it. I bet they cry like little babies when away fans sing disparaging songs about our town.

[martin_p]

i don't think i've ever seen a piece on the telly about the club and its relationship with the town that didn't show back streets and rows of terraced housing.

i agree it's a lazy way to represent the place and that is the point that seems to have gone above the heads of rather a few on here.

but no-one likes us. we don't care.

But that’s exactly what Burnley looks like around the ground!!

[Carwin261]

i don't think i've ever seen a piece on the telly about the club and its relationship with the town that didn't show back streets and rows of terraced housing.

i agree it's a lazy way to represent the place and that is the point that seems to have gone above the heads of rather a few on here.

but no-one likes us. we don't care.

Well said.

[Corky]

i don't think i've ever seen a piece on the telly about the club and its relationship with the town that didn't show back streets and rows of terraced housing.

i agree it's a lazy way to represent the place and that is the point that seems to have gone above the heads of rather a few on here.

but no-one likes us. we don't care.

This 100%

And for those who say that the ground is, apparently, surrounded by old style terraced streets then try looking at google earth and you may be surprised to find that actually it is not. But as yTib has alluded to, that doesn't fit the narrative of lazy journalism. Also the title of the Sky series is nebulous enough to make it unclear at to what this mission is all about or where the focus should lie. But I for one fail to see what the connection is with the back streets of Burnley.

[martin_p]

This 100%

And for those who say that the ground is, apparently, surrounded by old style terraced streets then try looking at google earth and you may be surprised to find that actually it is not. But as yTib has alluded to, that doesn't fit the narrative of lazy journalism. Also the title of the Sky series is nebulous enough to make it unclear at to what this mission is all about or where the focus should lie. But I for one fail to see what the connection is with the back streets of Burnley.

Maybe it’s the huge mural they’ve created there!

[Nori1958]

This 100%

And for those who say that the ground is, apparently, surrounded by old style terraced streets then try looking at google earth and you may be surprised to find that actually it is not. But as yTib has alluded to, that doesn't fit the narrative of lazy journalism. Also the title of the Sky series is nebulous enough to make it unclear at to what this mission is all about or where the focus should lie. But I for one fail to see what the connection is with the back streets of Burnley.

Which way could you walk to the ground without walking on, or past a terraced street?

[dsr]

But that’s exactly what Burnley looks like around the ground!!

But presumably these terraced houses have a front as well as a back? Very few people walk down that back street to get to Turf Moor.

[martin_p]

But presumably these terraced houses have a front as well as a back? Very few people walk down that back street to get to Turf Moor.

So we really are fussing over half a second of video! The documentary is over three hours long, think I’ll avoid the thread about it when it’s on.